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    meanpenugin
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    Bandra,

    Any chance we can get the files to order our own?

    If I want to use this with a 5V regulated supply, how hard would it be to add a 5V-3.3V converter for the Radio?

    Edward

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      Bandra
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      Thanks for your interest, guys!

      My PCB is getting really close, but I'm not entirely happy with it. I've made up 5 of them and scattered them around my place. For the most part, they're working well. However I have the following issues:

      • The battery voltage varies. I don't think my cap is quite doing the job, so I may need to tweak the PCB to get it closer to the voltage divider. I'm running Domoticz and it does a good job of averaging the battery level out, so it's not completely bad, but I'd really like to fix it in the next version of the PCB.
      • My moisture sensor (the one from the MySensors store) doesn't work very well. It chews the battery (cos the sensor from the store has 2 leds on it, plus it's always "on". I'll pop those off and see how it goes. However I think I can do the moisture sensor better. I'm thinking of including another voltage divider, and run the sensor off the digital pin for power. That way, I can power the sensor down in between samples.

      I think that I can also include my own step up voltage converter. I'm not entirely happy with the chinese step up converter. So far my 2xAA batteries have lasted several weeks, and they're still going strong, but I suspect that I'll only get a few months out of them. I'm aiming for a year.

      I'm designing our new house at the moment, which is taking up a lot of time, but I'll get onto rev 2 shortly. Once I'm happy with it, I'll put the design up here so that you guys can get your own made up.

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        Bandra
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        Oh yeah, I'm also scouting around for a nice enclosure that will snugly fit the PCB and 2xAA battery holder side-by-side (around 60mmx 60mm) and with room for the PIR motion sensor sitting on top of those. Haven't found anything yet. I may have to buy a 3d printer to make my own... :)

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        • B Bandra

          Oh yeah, I'm also scouting around for a nice enclosure that will snugly fit the PCB and 2xAA battery holder side-by-side (around 60mmx 60mm) and with room for the PIR motion sensor sitting on top of those. Haven't found anything yet. I may have to buy a 3d printer to make my own... :)

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          Dvbit
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          @Bandra great we wait patiently!

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            Just for completeness, my PCBs came in and I've had a chance to solder them up. The PCBs are really nice. iTead have done a great job. @Zeph, turns out that I didn't need to cut my PCBs because the friendly folk at iTead cut them for me.

            Here's a photo of a few things soldered on:
            photo 1(4).JPG

            Underneath the APM I have a 1M and 470K resistors for the battery voltage check. There's also a 4.7K resistor for the Dallas DS18B20 temp sensor. Finally there's a 4.7K resistor for the LDR divider circuit.

            You can also see the 4x2 header for the radio, the LDR itself, and the 3.3v step-up converter.

            Here's the (almost) finished package:

            photo 2(3).JPG

            You can see all the exposed solder pads for my various sensor configurations (motion, humidity, baro pressure, door reed switch, distance and soil moisture).

            The range on the nRF24 is fine. I put my gateway at one end of the apartment and it easily picked up my sensor at the other end of the apartment (about 10m away through two thick internal walls). So I'm not worried about the nRF24 being parallel to the GND plane.

            I actually took off the 4.7uF cap. It's probably my PCB (don't think the auto-route did a great job of it) but it made the radio flaky. Works just fine without it.

            Now to find a box to put it in...

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            RJ_Make
            Hero Member
            wrote on last edited by
            #50

            @Bandra
            Got the boards, they look fantastic, Well done Sir! If all goes well I should have one build up by next week.

            Thanks again!!

            RJ_Make

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              meanpenugin
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              #51

              @Bandra how are the boards working out?

              Any issues with the Radio over the Arduino in terms of the RF capabilities?
              I'm thinking I would like to change my board layout to have the radio like yours to save some real estate on the board if there are no negative consequences..

              Thanks,
              Edward

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                kevin
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                Hi! I am interested in this sensor PCB. Have you decided on posting the files for others to build these? What iteak build options (size qty etc) did you use, and how much total did it cost? Thanks!

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                  NotYetRated
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                  I did not know one could design and purchase a PCB for relatively cheap like this, awesome! Although, now I have yet another project on my hands, haha.

                  If anyone with a board plans to put their files public, please let me know. I would definitely be interested in purchasing, rather than teaching myself to design one. :) At least for now, while I have 5 million other projects going on.

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                  • B Bandra

                    Oh yeah, I'm also scouting around for a nice enclosure that will snugly fit the PCB and 2xAA battery holder side-by-side (around 60mmx 60mm) and with room for the PIR motion sensor sitting on top of those. Haven't found anything yet. I may have to buy a 3d printer to make my own... :)

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                    kalle
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                    @Bandra maybe here are some cases on ebay which you can use

                    http://stores.ebay.de/Elektronik-Bastler/KEMO-Gehause-/_i.html?rt=nc&_fsub=6&_sid=191168675&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1513&_pgn=1

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                    • B Bandra

                      Just for completeness, my PCBs came in and I've had a chance to solder them up. The PCBs are really nice. iTead have done a great job. @Zeph, turns out that I didn't need to cut my PCBs because the friendly folk at iTead cut them for me.

                      Here's a photo of a few things soldered on:
                      photo 1(4).JPG

                      Underneath the APM I have a 1M and 470K resistors for the battery voltage check. There's also a 4.7K resistor for the Dallas DS18B20 temp sensor. Finally there's a 4.7K resistor for the LDR divider circuit.

                      You can also see the 4x2 header for the radio, the LDR itself, and the 3.3v step-up converter.

                      Here's the (almost) finished package:

                      photo 2(3).JPG

                      You can see all the exposed solder pads for my various sensor configurations (motion, humidity, baro pressure, door reed switch, distance and soil moisture).

                      The range on the nRF24 is fine. I put my gateway at one end of the apartment and it easily picked up my sensor at the other end of the apartment (about 10m away through two thick internal walls). So I'm not worried about the nRF24 being parallel to the GND plane.

                      I actually took off the 4.7uF cap. It's probably my PCB (don't think the auto-route did a great job of it) but it made the radio flaky. Works just fine without it.

                      Now to find a box to put it in...

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                      quocanhcgd
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #55

                      @Bandra said:

                      Just for completeness, my PCBs came in and I've had a chance to solder them up. The PCBs are really nice. iTead have done a great job. @Zeph, turns out that I didn't need to cut my PCBs because the friendly folk at iTead cut them for me.

                      Here's a photo of a few things soldered on:
                      photo 1(4).JPG

                      Underneath the APM I have a 1M and 470K resistors for the battery voltage check. There's also a 4.7K resistor for the Dallas DS18B20 temp sensor. Finally there's a 4.7K resistor for the LDR divider circuit.

                      You can also see the 4x2 header for the radio, the LDR itself, and the 3.3v step-up converter.

                      Here's the (almost) finished package:

                      photo 2(3).JPG

                      You can see all the exposed solder pads for my various sensor configurations (motion, humidity, baro pressure, door reed switch, distance and soil moisture).

                      The range on the nRF24 is fine. I put my gateway at one end of the apartment and it easily picked up my sensor at the other end of the apartment (about 10m away through two thick internal walls). So I'm not worried about the nRF24 being parallel to the GND plane.

                      I actually took off the 4.7uF cap. It's probably my PCB (don't think the auto-route did a great job of it) but it made the radio flaky. Works just fine without it.

                      Now to find a box to put it in...

                      Can you share your board to me,pls? Im newbie. Pls email to me quocanhcgd@gmail.com Thanks

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                        #56

                        I'm also interested on your PCB board design. Can you share it? Thank you.

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                          dakipro
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                          @Tom71 said:

                          I'm also interested on your PCB board design. Can you share it? Thank you.

                          Same here, is it possible to get this PCB for ordering please?

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                            FYI, @Bandra hasn't been "online" for over a year.

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