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  • dakkyD dakky

    Another "noobish" question:
    When using this bootloader, one cycle takes 8 seconds? What happens, if for example, a switch is pressed between? does this sensor detect this?

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    m26872
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    #99

    @dakky Plz correct me... but I guess you're talking about the Avr sleep cycles? I don't know what that's got to do with the bootloader or this thread. I think it's related to interrupt, timers, mysensors and arduino lowpower library. The sleep cycles shouldn't be something to worry about if you're using the "sleep" function as in MySensors API.

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    • m26872M m26872

      @dakky Plz correct me... but I guess you're talking about the Avr sleep cycles? I don't know what that's got to do with the bootloader or this thread. I think it's related to interrupt, timers, mysensors and arduino lowpower library. The sleep cycles shouldn't be something to worry about if you're using the "sleep" function as in MySensors API.

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      dakky
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      #100

      @m26872 hmm you're right. maybe this is a too generic question to be discussed here. pardon me.

      Controller: Raspberry Pi 2 :: Openhab2 :: with @TimO MySensors Binding
      Gateway: Arduino MEGA 2560 R3 :: W5100 :: Ethernet GW

      Software: MySensors 2.0development

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        martkrui
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        #101

        I had a bit of an issue getting things going as I've never played with the fuses before. Maybe this can save someone else some time. If I'm doing something silly here please correct me. :sweat_smile:

        [DISCLAIMER] this worked for me. Use at own risk[DISCLAIMER]

        Executed these commands from the subfolder \hardware\tools\avr\bin of my local arduino IDE.
        Connected the board ICSP using an USBASP with the latest firmware. Change the "-c usbasp" part if you connect using something else.

        Flash bootloader

        avrdude -C ../etc/avrdude.conf -c usbasp -B5 -p ATmega328P -U flash:w:..\..\..\arduino\avr\bootloaders\atmega\atmega328_1a.hex
        

        Set fuses

        avrdude -C ../etc/avrdude.conf -c usbasp -B5 -p ATmega328P -U lfuse:w:0x62:m -U hfuse:w:0xDE:m -U efuse:w:0x07:m -U lock:w:0x2F:m
        
        

        I think the B5 was crucial as it slows things down a bit. The bootloader (atmega328_1a.hex) is the one mentioned in the first post. I also added the part in the boards.txt of the arduino IDE.

        Now I can connect the board to the FTDI and upload and run sketches without issues.

        On to the next step :smiley: :+1:

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          #102

          I am not so really skilled in transferring a wiring diagram to "real live". Is this the correct implementation for battery measuring?

          upload-8e188148-e6c0-44ef-9b8c-a01fe9cd1c3a

          Controller: Raspberry Pi 2 :: Openhab2 :: with @TimO MySensors Binding
          Gateway: Arduino MEGA 2560 R3 :: W5100 :: Ethernet GW

          Software: MySensors 2.0development

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          • dakkyD dakky

            I am not so really skilled in transferring a wiring diagram to "real live". Is this the correct implementation for battery measuring?

            upload-8e188148-e6c0-44ef-9b8c-a01fe9cd1c3a

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            m26872
            Hardware Contributor
            wrote on last edited by
            #103

            @dakky First, the "normal" battery monitoring to this node is to use the internal method by, if you like, using the vcc library. Measuring Vcc with external voltage divider makes not a lot of sense. The external voltage divider is useful when measuring e.g. raw battery voltage to some voltage regulator.
            Second, I think you've switched A0 and Gnd in your drawing.

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              dakky
              wrote on last edited by dakky
              #104

              hurm did i switch them?
              Concerning the method: hmm ok. I just thought, that the one recommenced in the build section of mysensors should be the "correct" one.

              EDIT: Hrhr @Yveaux vcc lib is cute :D workd out of the box ;) thx

              Controller: Raspberry Pi 2 :: Openhab2 :: with @TimO MySensors Binding
              Gateway: Arduino MEGA 2560 R3 :: W5100 :: Ethernet GW

              Software: MySensors 2.0development

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                arnoldg
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                #105

                Is there some one who have lying around several boards, who can share them with me.
                i'm from the netherlands, and for now i only need 5 to 6 boards, not 30 :)

                so i hope i could take over a couple from someone.

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                • A arnoldg

                  Is there some one who have lying around several boards, who can share them with me.
                  i'm from the netherlands, and for now i only need 5 to 6 boards, not 30 :)

                  so i hope i could take over a couple from someone.

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                  AWI
                  Hero Member
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                  #106

                  @arnoldg send me a pm...

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                  • A arnoldg

                    Is there some one who have lying around several boards, who can share them with me.
                    i'm from the netherlands, and for now i only need 5 to 6 boards, not 30 :)

                    so i hope i could take over a couple from someone.

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                    ar91
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                    #107

                    @arnoldg said:

                    Is there some one who have lying around several boards, who can share them with me.
                    i'm from the netherlands, and for now i only need 5 to 6 boards, not 30 :)

                    so i hope i could take over a couple from someone.

                    Same here, anybody in US has 4 or 5 boards that i could buy?

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                      #108

                      Anyone want to share some photos with sensors assembled?
                      Any experiences how long this node will last? I have one DHT11 and one BH1750 onboard and will wake up the node every 5-15 Minutes.

                      Greetings
                      Dakky

                      Controller: Raspberry Pi 2 :: Openhab2 :: with @TimO MySensors Binding
                      Gateway: Arduino MEGA 2560 R3 :: W5100 :: Ethernet GW

                      Software: MySensors 2.0development

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                        nikos1671
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                        #109

                        If I order the 10 pieces for 14$ how many sensor I can build? They mean 10 panels with 3 boards each one?

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                          kr0815
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                          #110

                          yes, that´s 30 sensors you could build then

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                            GertSanders
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                            @nikos1671 If you buy the proto pack you could get 9,10 or 11 boards. It could be different that exactly 10 boards. In my case I received 12 boards for my design, in another order I received 11 boards. My last order was 10 boards. But in any case you will be able to make more then 25 sensors. Plenty for a normal house.

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                            • dakkyD dakky

                              Anyone want to share some photos with sensors assembled?
                              Any experiences how long this node will last? I have one DHT11 and one BH1750 onboard and will wake up the node every 5-15 Minutes.

                              Greetings
                              Dakky

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                              rsachoc
                              wrote on last edited by rsachoc
                              #112

                              @dakky said:

                              Anyone want to share some photos with sensors assembled?
                              Any experiences how long this node will last? I have one DHT11 and one BH1750 onboard and will wake up the node every 5-15 Minutes.

                              Greetings
                              Dakky

                              I would like this too please! I'm trying to decide on which node to use as a motion sensor and temp/humidity sensor and would like to understand how I add a temp/humidty sensor to these and also the battery drain. And also, what temp/humidity sensors are we able to use with this node? I guess it ouputs max 3v, so does that mean the DHT11 and DHT22 are not able to be used here? Sorry for the newbie questions, I'm beginning to explore my options in relation to building my initial temp/humidity sensor and then a motion sensor.

                              edit OK, so based on what m26872 said here (http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2715/slim-node-as-a-mini-2aa-battery-pir-motion-sensor/5) I think that I can only use Si7021 or HTU21 sensors as this outputs around 3v? From reading the spec sheet of the DHT11 and 22 I see they need 3.7v, so I guess if I want to use those sensors I need this node (http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/486/my-2aa-battery-sensor)?

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                              • rsachocR rsachoc

                                @dakky said:

                                Anyone want to share some photos with sensors assembled?
                                Any experiences how long this node will last? I have one DHT11 and one BH1750 onboard and will wake up the node every 5-15 Minutes.

                                Greetings
                                Dakky

                                I would like this too please! I'm trying to decide on which node to use as a motion sensor and temp/humidity sensor and would like to understand how I add a temp/humidty sensor to these and also the battery drain. And also, what temp/humidity sensors are we able to use with this node? I guess it ouputs max 3v, so does that mean the DHT11 and DHT22 are not able to be used here? Sorry for the newbie questions, I'm beginning to explore my options in relation to building my initial temp/humidity sensor and then a motion sensor.

                                edit OK, so based on what m26872 said here (http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2715/slim-node-as-a-mini-2aa-battery-pir-motion-sensor/5) I think that I can only use Si7021 or HTU21 sensors as this outputs around 3v? From reading the spec sheet of the DHT11 and 22 I see they need 3.7v, so I guess if I want to use those sensors I need this node (http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/486/my-2aa-battery-sensor)?

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                                m26872
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #113

                                @rsachoc Yep, you got it right.

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                                  dakky
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                                  #114

                                  Arghls no DHT11 with this node? Dammit. But a step up converter should do it?

                                  Controller: Raspberry Pi 2 :: Openhab2 :: with @TimO MySensors Binding
                                  Gateway: Arduino MEGA 2560 R3 :: W5100 :: Ethernet GW

                                  Software: MySensors 2.0development

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                                    m26872
                                    Hardware Contributor
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                                    #115

                                    Humidity Sensor example
                                    http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3049/slim-node-si7021-sensor-example

                                    (This post used to contain a not yet finished design by mistake. The link above now shows the correct finished project.)

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                                      #116

                                      Reed Switch example
                                      With external 10M pull-up to save battery. The plastic foam is used instead of a fixed mount, for easy disassemble, reflash, battery renewal etc.
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                                      The Sketch

                                      // EgSlimReed2
                                      // By m26872, 2015-12-22
                                      // Interrupt driven binary switch for Slim Node with Reed switch and external pull-up (10Mohm)
                                      // Inspired by mysensors example:
                                      // https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/blob/master/libraries/MySensors/examples/BinarySwitchSleepSensor/BinarySwitchSleepSensor.ino
                                      
                                      #include <MySensor.h>
                                      #include <SPI.h>
                                      #include <Vcc.h>
                                      
                                      #define NODE_ID 5 //12 var senaste "reed-node"-id // 110    // Use static Node_ID  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
                                      #define SKETCH_NAME "EgSlimReed"
                                      #define SKETCH_VERSION "2.0 2015-12-22"
                                      #define SW_CHILD_ID 5
                                      #define SW_PIN 3
                                      #define BATTERY_REPORT_DAY 2   // Desired heartbeat interval when inactive. Maximum heartbeat/report interval is equal to this due to the dayCounter.
                                      #define BATTERY_REPORT_BY_IRT_CYCLE 10  // Adjust this according to usage frequency.
                                      #define ONE_DAY_SLEEP_TIME 86400000
                                      #define VCC_MIN 1.9
                                      #define VCC_MAX 3.3
                                      
                                      int dayCounter = 0;
                                      int irtCounter = 0;
                                      uint8_t value;
                                      uint8_t sentValue=2;
                                      bool interruptReturn=false;
                                       
                                      Vcc vcc;
                                      MySensor gw;
                                      MyMessage msg(SW_CHILD_ID, V_TRIPPED);
                                      
                                      void setup()  
                                      {  
                                        delay(100); // to settle power for radio
                                        gw.begin(NULL,NODE_ID);
                                        pinMode(SW_PIN, INPUT);
                                        digitalWrite(SW_PIN, LOW);    // Disable internal pull-ups
                                        gw.sendSketchInfo(SKETCH_NAME, SKETCH_VERSION);
                                        gw.present(SW_CHILD_ID, S_DOOR);  
                                      }
                                      
                                      void loop() 
                                      {
                                        if (!interruptReturn) { // Woke up by timer (or first run)
                                      	dayCounter++; 
                                      	if (dayCounter >= BATTERY_REPORT_DAY) {
                                      		  dayCounter = 0;
                                      		  sendBatteryReport();
                                      	}
                                        }
                                        else {	// Woke up by pin change
                                      	  irtCounter++;
                                      	  gw.sleep(50);  	  // Short delay to allow switch to properly settle
                                      	  value = digitalRead(SW_PIN);
                                      	  if (value != sentValue) {
                                      		 gw.send(msg.set(value==HIGH ? 1 : 0));
                                      		 sentValue = value;
                                      	  }
                                      	  if (irtCounter>=BATTERY_REPORT_BY_IRT_CYCLE) {
                                      		irtCounter=0;
                                      		sendBatteryReport();
                                      	  }
                                        }
                                      
                                        // Sleep until something happens with the sensor,   or one sleep_time has passed since last awake.
                                        interruptReturn = gw.sleep(SW_PIN-2, CHANGE, ONE_DAY_SLEEP_TIME);
                                      
                                      } 
                                      
                                      void sendBatteryReport() {
                                      		  float p = vcc.Read_Perc(VCC_MIN, VCC_MAX, true);
                                      		  int batteryPcnt = static_cast<int>(p);
                                      		  gw.sendBatteryLevel(batteryPcnt);
                                      }
                                      
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                                        m26872
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                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        Motion sensor example
                                        As already mentioned; more details to be found here.http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2715/slim-node-as-a-mini-2aa-battery-pir-motion-sensor

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                                          do u add these photos and comments to openhardware.io ? they are quite helpful

                                          Controller: Raspberry Pi 2 :: Openhab2 :: with @TimO MySensors Binding
                                          Gateway: Arduino MEGA 2560 R3 :: W5100 :: Ethernet GW

                                          Software: MySensors 2.0development

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