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  • J joshmosh

    @mfalkvidd, @Nicklas-Starkel
    similar problem here. I have a bare ATMega 328P, running @ 8 MHz internal oszillator. no LED, bod disabled, (if enabled, the ADC is running also during sleep, so this means additional power consumption), nothing else connected that could draw additional power.
    I use mfalkvidd's sketch (BTW, thanks a lot for it !), but converted to mysensors 2.0. I see a voltage drop way higher than mfalkvidd, although I don't use a china clone ;-).
    So it seems, that the higher power consumption may be due to mysensors V2 ? I cannot imagine a reason for that, because why should relatively low level functions like power save routines be different in 2.0 ?
    Perhaps hek can comment ?

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    @joshmosh said in Office plant monitoring:

    mfalkvidd

    Where i find mfalkvidd's sketch ?

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    • ronnyandreR ronnyandre

      Thanks for this great solution @mfalkvidd! It works great when my Arduino Pro Mini is connected to the computer, but not when I try to run it off a battery pack.

      I have a Pro Mini 3.3v connected to a 0.8-3.3v step up from a battery pack (2xAA; 3v). And then I have connected the radio and sensor to VCC on the Pro Mini. When the Pro Mini is connected to my iMac, Domoticz receives everything as it should. However, when I disconnect it from the computer and connect the battery source, all LEDs light as they should, indicitating that they have power, but it won't connect to Domoticz over NRF24.

      I have used a multimeter to check the voltage and if the radio receives enough power, and it does. All power/ground pins show around 3.3v. Any ideas to debug what's wrong?

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      @ronnyandre a multimeter is unfortunately not sensitive enough to display if there is enough power during the short bursts when the radio is active.

      Most step-ups don't deliver power that is stable enough. You could try adding more/larger capacitors, but from what I have seen in the forum, people seldom get thing working reliably with a step-up. I have never tried using step-up myself, I use power directly from the batteries.

      If you haven't checked already, see the troubleshooting chart at https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/666/debug-faq-and-how-ask-for-help/

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      • Fat FlyF Fat Fly

        @joshmosh said in Office plant monitoring:

        mfalkvidd

        Where i find mfalkvidd's sketch ?

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        Where i find mfalkvidd's sketch ?

        At github, but be aware that this code is for MySensors 1.x. It does not work with MySensors 2.x.

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        • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

          @ronnyandre a multimeter is unfortunately not sensitive enough to display if there is enough power during the short bursts when the radio is active.

          Most step-ups don't deliver power that is stable enough. You could try adding more/larger capacitors, but from what I have seen in the forum, people seldom get thing working reliably with a step-up. I have never tried using step-up myself, I use power directly from the batteries.

          If you haven't checked already, see the troubleshooting chart at https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/666/debug-faq-and-how-ask-for-help/

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          @mfalkvidd Thanks for the quick answer! I also read on the page for battery powered sensors that the step up generates alot of noise that can interfere with the radio, and that a solution might be to add capacitators (which I already tried), but also powering the radio directly from batteries. I'll try that later today. Thanks! :smiley:

          And thank you for the link to the troubleshooting. It's now bookmarked! :wink:

          Newbie with RPi and Domoticz, trying to automate my home.

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            Please somebody help me add to skech one relay for water pump. I use this in Domoticz. I do not want build other hardware for this.It is possible ?

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              Just copy the relay code from https://www.mysensors.org/build/relay and add it your sketch and make necessary changes to adapt it: like setting child_id in presentation

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              • gohanG gohan

                Just copy the relay code from https://www.mysensors.org/build/relay and add it your sketch and make necessary changes to adapt it: like setting child_id in presentation

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                @gohan I make something this. Please look if all is right. My software writer skill is low. :) Some small errors. :)
                https://pastebin.com/8LWpgb8L

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                  because you are using old code, you need to convert it from libraries 1.5 to 2.x: there is a guide to do that

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                    Can i use old libraries and gateway version 2.1 ?

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                      You can downgrade libraries and use old examples, but I'd suggest to stick to the new version

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                        @gohan said in Office plant monitoring:

                        but I'd suggest to stick to the new version

                        I try but idonotknow. :)

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                          @gohan
                          Please help with small errors. https://pastebin.com/VRXyT8Ut I try for library 2.x

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                            It's a pity that at least one sketch for the analog reading of moisture sensor is not v2 compatible and made available on the main page ... i have no idea if making it v2 compatible would be a hard job...even if it's just a question of changing some library calls i'm afraid i don't have the skill for that...

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                              My Bonsai tree humidity node celebrates 2 years on battery today!

                              During these two years, the gateway has received 146,528 updates on humidity level (and an additional 30,870 updates on voltage level).

                              The battery level has gone from 3.187V to 3.049, which means an average drop of 0,0058V per month. Assuming I let it go down to 2.34V (limit for 8MHz according to the datasheet) and that the voltage drop is linear, I should get (3.187-2.34)/0.0058 = 146 months = ~12 years. There are several error sources in this calculation, but it looks like battery life will be quite good.

                              Here are the voltage and humidity graphs for the last year.
                              0_1510070572143_chart.png
                              0_1510070578967_temp.png

                              As you can see, there was a problem in November. I was asked to verify the battery voltage reading by using a multimeter. When I opened the box to do that, I must have tripped something because the node got caught in some sort of loop, consuming battery. I restarted the node and the batteries recovered almost to the level they had before the problem occurred.

                              Last year's report: https://forum.mysensors.org/post/52232

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                              • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                                My Bonsai tree humidity node celebrates 2 years on battery today!

                                During these two years, the gateway has received 146,528 updates on humidity level (and an additional 30,870 updates on voltage level).

                                The battery level has gone from 3.187V to 3.049, which means an average drop of 0,0058V per month. Assuming I let it go down to 2.34V (limit for 8MHz according to the datasheet) and that the voltage drop is linear, I should get (3.187-2.34)/0.0058 = 146 months = ~12 years. There are several error sources in this calculation, but it looks like battery life will be quite good.

                                Here are the voltage and humidity graphs for the last year.
                                0_1510070572143_chart.png
                                0_1510070578967_temp.png

                                As you can see, there was a problem in November. I was asked to verify the battery voltage reading by using a multimeter. When I opened the box to do that, I must have tripped something because the node got caught in some sort of loop, consuming battery. I restarted the node and the batteries recovered almost to the level they had before the problem occurred.

                                Last year's report: https://forum.mysensors.org/post/52232

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                                @mfalkvidd said in Office plant monitoring:

                                and that the voltage drop is linear

                                You wish!!! :D

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                                • gohanG gohan

                                  @mfalkvidd said in Office plant monitoring:

                                  and that the voltage drop is linear

                                  You wish!!! :D

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                                  @gohan no actually I don't. The voltage drop is normally a s-shaped curve that is very flat in the middle. That means I am experiencing a higher drop at the beginning. That's likely the reason that the prediction after 2 years is more than 10% longer battery life than the prediction after 1 year was.

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                                    Yes, it depends when the voltage starts to drop significantly, but unless you have tested another battery before it is hard to know in advance 😀

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                                    • gohanG gohan

                                      Yes, it depends when the voltage starts to drop significantly, but unless you have tested another battery before it is hard to know in advance 😀

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                                      @gohan alkaline batteries in general have been tested quite extensively and don't deviate much from the S-curve characteristics.

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