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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors

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  • sundberg84S sundberg84

    @genuinejd - the radio can not work with 5v, sorry but this might destroyed your radio. Do you have any serial debut for your node? Can you see what it does? It might be alot of different things, maybe the booster. In many times I have seen bad boosters which introduces noice and makes the radio go crasy.

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    @sundberg84 I know that everything I've read says the radio cannot use 5v, but when hooked up to my bench power supply and connecting my multimeter leads to the NRF24L01+, it says it's getting 5v AND it's the only scenario where the node can successfully find the gateway and send/receive data.

    I tried swapping out the radio and it was the exact same scenario. I'm getting NACK debugging messages on the gateway when it's trying to accept the node as a child. The only thing I haven't tried is replacing the booster.

    For the moment, I wired up a second node with all new components and (after remembering to solder everything) it connected to the gateway right away. It's been running for about 30 minutes, so I'll post back after a time when I know if it will stop working or run until the batteries drain completely.

    Side note: thanks for making such an awesome board!

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      kiesel
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      Hi,

      I build a node using an easypcb rev 10 for the rfm69. I am trying to connect two door sensors to the node using pins 2 and 3. The sensor on pin 3 works flawlessly, but the one on 2 doesn't (I'd like to use the interrupts to save power).

      I saw that the Nrf24l01+ version has disabled pin 2, is that the case with the rfm69 version too? If yes, is there any way to use two different pins for interrupts? I need to know which sensor has been triggered so I can't connect them in series.

      Thanks for the help!

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        Woodside
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        Is there a .sch version of the schematic that I can import into Diptrace? I can only find a .pdf

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        • K kiesel

          Hi,

          I build a node using an easypcb rev 10 for the rfm69. I am trying to connect two door sensors to the node using pins 2 and 3. The sensor on pin 3 works flawlessly, but the one on 2 doesn't (I'd like to use the interrupts to save power).

          I saw that the Nrf24l01+ version has disabled pin 2, is that the case with the rfm69 version too? If yes, is there any way to use two different pins for interrupts? I need to know which sensor has been triggered so I can't connect them in series.

          Thanks for the help!

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          sundberg84
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          @kiesel sorry for the late reply. Did you solve it ?

          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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          • W Woodside

            Is there a .sch version of the schematic that I can import into Diptrace? I can only find a .pdf

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            sundberg84
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            @Woodside all files should be posted @ openhsrdware.io. Is this some special file?

            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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            • sundberg84S sundberg84

              @kiesel sorry for the late reply. Did you solve it ?

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              @sundberg84 I did, thanks, I discovered ISRs. Thanks for the support.

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              • sundberg84S sundberg84

                @Woodside all files should be posted @ openhsrdware.io. Is this some special file?

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                Woodside
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                @sundberg84 The only file type I can find on openhardware.io for the schematic is a pdf. DIPTrace is a schematic and PCB layout tool and uses .sch format for the schematic files. It cannot import a schematic layout from a pdf.

                I was hoping to use DIPTrace to update the schematic for my projects using the EasyPCB and then transfer the result onto the board.

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                  @sundberg84 The only file type I can find on openhardware.io for the schematic is a pdf. DIPTrace is a schematic and PCB layout tool and uses .sch format for the schematic files. It cannot import a schematic layout from a pdf.

                  I was hoping to use DIPTrace to update the schematic for my projects using the EasyPCB and then transfer the result onto the board.

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                  sundberg84
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                  @Woodside - you are correct, I have forgotten to update the Kicad Files. I have uploaded them all now - but... when I last made changes to these I upgraded from Kicad 4 to Kicad 5 which created some rescue/convert files. This made things very confusing with all the files and some things was not working properly if you didnt have all rescue files. There is a sch file - I hope it works for you.

                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                  RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                    kiesel
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                    Is there a video of how to solder the signing chip? Because from what I can see there is a connection to be made right in the middle of the chip and I am not sure how to.

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                    • sundberg84S sundberg84

                      @Woodside - you are correct, I have forgotten to update the Kicad Files. I have uploaded them all now - but... when I last made changes to these I upgraded from Kicad 4 to Kicad 5 which created some rescue/convert files. This made things very confusing with all the files and some things was not working properly if you didnt have all rescue files. There is a sch file - I hope it works for you.

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                      Woodside
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                      @sundberg84 Thankyou

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                      • K kiesel

                        Is there a video of how to solder the signing chip? Because from what I can see there is a connection to be made right in the middle of the chip and I am not sure how to.

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                        sundberg84
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                        @kiesel - sorry, no video of this available at the moment. I made one some time ago but my HD crashed so I lost all my video of a project i made with signing. Maybe I have some left on the videocamera - I will check tonight.

                        What do you mean with "connection in the middle"? I know there was a fault in the old gerbers with D6 not connecting to the arduino but this was fixed in May so if you have new boards it should be fine. Make a continuity test from SCK (Pin6 on signing chip) to D6 on the arduino.

                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                        • K kiesel

                          Is there a video of how to solder the signing chip? Because from what I can see there is a connection to be made right in the middle of the chip and I am not sure how to.

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                          Anticimex
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                          @kiesel It is a SOT23 if I remember correctly. There are only 3 pins, no pad underneath so soldering should be easy.
                          Perhaps the copper you see is part of a ground plane? It will not connect to the signing chip in any case.

                          Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                          • AnticimexA Anticimex

                            @kiesel It is a SOT23 if I remember correctly. There are only 3 pins, no pad underneath so soldering should be easy.
                            Perhaps the copper you see is part of a ground plane? It will not connect to the signing chip in any case.

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                            sundberg84
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                            @Anticimex @kiesel - yes, you are right - i mixed it up with the flash chip. Signing should be good - no issues reported (i have had several boards myself working fine).

                            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                              kiesel
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                              @Anticimex ,@sundberg84

                              Thanks for the help, I think I was looking at the wrong chip. The one I considered byuing had 6 legs, not only 3. I was thrown off by the easypcb having what appears to be 7 soldering points in the signing area.

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                                @Anticimex ,@sundberg84

                                Thanks for the help, I think I was looking at the wrong chip. The one I considered byuing had 6 legs, not only 3. I was thrown off by the easypcb having what appears to be 7 soldering points in the signing area.

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                                Anticimex
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                                @kiesel Beware that I believe the 6 leg chip is I2C which is not supported. Only the 3 leg SWI variant is supported.

                                Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                  Mr_sensor
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                                  I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask. But it seems right to me :)
                                  Hi I have e few of the Easy/Newbie-pcb working for some time with good effort. One of them even in a shed at 20 - 25 meters in the garden which is fairly good isolated. Sending Temp/Hum/battery level. And the Gateway is in the house on the first floor behind a door in a wardrobe.

                                  Now I have a second shed which is behind the fist shed. Also very good isolated. The pcb I have in there is not reaching the gateway (it did before until the battery was empty).
                                  Can I have the pcb in the first shed also working as an extender, so the second pcb will be able to send out topics to the gateway as well? What to add to my code to achieve that?

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                                    I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask. But it seems right to me :)
                                    Hi I have e few of the Easy/Newbie-pcb working for some time with good effort. One of them even in a shed at 20 - 25 meters in the garden which is fairly good isolated. Sending Temp/Hum/battery level. And the Gateway is in the house on the first floor behind a door in a wardrobe.

                                    Now I have a second shed which is behind the fist shed. Also very good isolated. The pcb I have in there is not reaching the gateway (it did before until the battery was empty).
                                    Can I have the pcb in the first shed also working as an extender, so the second pcb will be able to send out topics to the gateway as well? What to add to my code to achieve that?

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                                    Nca78
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                                    @Mr_sensor said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors:

                                    Can I have the pcb in the first shed also working as an extender, so the second pcb will be able to send out topics to the gateway as well? What to add to my code to achieve that?

                                    Hello,
                                    you must program it to be a repeater. Of course it will need to have radio on all the time, so it cannot be battery-powered.
                                    https://www.mysensors.org/download/sensor_api_20#create-repeating-nodes

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                                      I'm thinking about switching to RFM69 with some of my nodes. From what I saw, RFM69 uses the same pins as nrf24l01 (except for pin 9 on Arduino). So, theoretically, would it be possible to connect the RFM69 to the nrf24l01 Easy PCB board (Rev 10) — of course, I will not fit directly and I have to create some adapter. But it should be possible, right?

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                                        I'm thinking about switching to RFM69 with some of my nodes. From what I saw, RFM69 uses the same pins as nrf24l01 (except for pin 9 on Arduino). So, theoretically, would it be possible to connect the RFM69 to the nrf24l01 Easy PCB board (Rev 10) — of course, I will not fit directly and I have to create some adapter. But it should be possible, right?

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                                        sundberg84
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                                        @benhub - hello!
                                        You need some sort of adapter, the use similar pins but not in the same order/layout.
                                        Here is a suggestion for adapter: https://www.openhardware.io/view/601/NRF24-to-RFM69-converter

                                        But... you know there is a RFM version of the EasyPCB right?
                                        https://www.openhardware.io/view/389/EasyNewbie-PCB-RFM69-HWW-edition-for-MySensors

                                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                        • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                          @benhub - hello!
                                          You need some sort of adapter, the use similar pins but not in the same order/layout.
                                          Here is a suggestion for adapter: https://www.openhardware.io/view/601/NRF24-to-RFM69-converter

                                          But... you know there is a RFM version of the EasyPCB right?
                                          https://www.openhardware.io/view/389/EasyNewbie-PCB-RFM69-HWW-edition-for-MySensors

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                                          benhub
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                                          @sundberg84 Cool! Thanks for your quick response!

                                          But... you know there is a RFM version of the EasyPCB right?

                                          Yes, I know, but I already have nrf24 boards at home which I want to use too. So cool that it should be possible.

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