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  • hekH hek

    I'm happy to launch a new feature I've been working in for the last few weeks!

    We will now allow authors to sell their designs on OpenHardware.io through Ebay or via our manufacturing partners.

    This feature is currently in beta testing together with the first manufacturer PCBWay.com. I hope to smoke out any bugs during the next couple of days. Please report any problems you might find in the contact form.

    There is just a few of steps to make your PCB available for sale as an author:

    • Upload and publish the Gerber files for the PCB (you've probably already done this part).
    • Add an optional BOM to allow the manufacturer to create DIY kits or fully assembled boards.
    • Fill in the PCB characteristics and create a new revision in the "Selling" tab where you edit the project.

    When someone buys through OpenHardware.io , the author will get a small commission sales! Pretty neat to give some encouragement back to the talented open hardware designers we got here right?

    When a board is available for sale (all variants) it looks like this:
    0_1460379195861_buy2.png

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    NeverDie
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    @hek said:

    When someone buys through OpenHardware.io , the author will get a small commission sales!

    How much is the commission?

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      #25

      If all else fails, another way to address the kit issue would be to pick a vendor known to have a wide selection of parts (e.g. Digikey, Mouser, or the like) and have the author also give that vendor's specific part numbers on the BOM. Then, anyone who wants to buy the parts to go with the board can just go to one place (to hopefully save on shipping) and punch in the numbers and order it.

      I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of the big outfits supports pre-defined shopping lists, in which case you could just click on a link and have all the parts added to your shopping basket in one stroke.

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        If all else fails, another way to address the kit issue would be to pick a vendor known to have a wide selection of parts (e.g. Digikey, Mouser, or the like) and have the author also give that vendor's specific part numbers on the BOM. Then, anyone who wants to buy the parts to go with the board can just go to one place (to hopefully save on shipping) and punch in the numbers and order it.

        I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of the big outfits supports pre-defined shopping lists, in which case you could just click on a link and have all the parts added to your shopping basket in one stroke.

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        Samuel235
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        @NeverDie, as i create my boards i'm trying to include the order number for farnell for every part (as and when i can). I'm also very very tempted to create these kits myself and sell them through Openhardware.io on eBay. So you guys only need to purchase the kit from eBay and we are good to go!

        MySensors 2.1.1
        Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
        Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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          actually most of electronics vendor already does this. when you have an account, you can save your boms. keep it private or share it. the maker just need to put a link, very easy..

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            @NeverDie, as i create my boards i'm trying to include the order number for farnell for every part (as and when i can). I'm also very very tempted to create these kits myself and sell them through Openhardware.io on eBay. So you guys only need to purchase the kit from eBay and we are good to go!

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            #28

            @Samuel235
            Well, I'm sure buiyers wouldn't care who kits the parts, but do you really want to be in the fulfillment business? I don't see enough upside in that to justify the bother unless your volumes were high. I'd say cross that bridge only if that's what the sales trendline objectively demonstrates. Otherwise, you're taking on inventory risk that could leave you in a hole.

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              I was only tempted to allow people to get modules up and running tbh. If there is another way to do this, saved baskets like mentioned above, then i will happily go that route.

              MySensors 2.1.1
              Controller - OpenHAB (Virtual Machine)
              Gateway - Arduino Mega MQTT Gateway W5100

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                It's tough for the manufacturers to produce assembled boards at competitive prices when producing 1 at the time...

                I'm playing with an idea of doing some sort of mini-crowd-funding function. Co-shopping so to speak. Like campaigns for 20, 50 or 100 boards to get a better price for small batch volumes.

                But it means I have to dig deep into payment provider apis and read the small print on their fees so we don't lose on big time their huge margins on every tiny transaction involved. Or if campaigns fail automate the refund.

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                • hekH hek

                  It's tough for the manufacturers to produce assembled boards at competitive prices when producing 1 at the time...

                  I'm playing with an idea of doing some sort of mini-crowd-funding function. Co-shopping so to speak. Like campaigns for 20, 50 or 100 boards to get a better price for small batch volumes.

                  But it means I have to dig deep into payment provider apis and read the small print on their fees so we don't lose on big time their huge margins on every tiny transaction involved. Or if campaigns fail automate the refund.

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                  @hek
                  Would it be easier for you, to do some paypal stuff. so you can avoid all the payment provider stuff?

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                    #32

                    Paypal is a payment provider.

                    Right now, I'm forwarding the payment handling to the manufacturer (to avoid double payment fees).

                    But PayPal actually have some advanced chined/parallel/delayed payments that could be useful for a co-shopping function and to handle commission to author for simple orders. But it all depends on how PayPal fees turns out (do the chop a fee in every step?). I've send an email to their support (no replies yet...) to help me understand what is possible.

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                      @hek How do you start a new (hardware) related topic without making a new project ? I have not figured that out.

                      I was wondering if I could start a non-Mysensors hardware project, but before I do that I wanted to ask the question. I know I can make a new topic in the HARDWARE section of the MySensors forum, but that seemed wrong to me because I wanted to start a hardware topic on motor control (tangentially related to LED and fan control).

                      So as they say in Singapore "so how to do lah ?"

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                        How do we know order's state for buyed DIY kits from OH? I ordered a kit Saturday and haven't received any news from PCBWay or OH since then.
                        I tried searching PCBWay site but no luck.

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                          https://www.openhardware.io/account#tabs-orders

                          When order has been shipped, they send also send over tracking number which will be linked on that page.

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                            Just received DIY kit (My Slim 2AA node), and they sent me SMD NRLF24+, not the standard :worried: Do I have to contact them?

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                              Just received DIY kit (My Slim 2AA node), and they sent me SMD NRLF24+, not the standard :worried: Do I have to contact them?

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                              @danivalencia

                              PM me.

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                                #38

                                Happy to announce that ITead has joined in as manufacturing partner on openhardware.io.

                                ...and we got 100 projects on the site now! Awesome, everyone involved!

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                                • hekH hek

                                  Happy to announce that ITead has joined in as manufacturing partner on openhardware.io.

                                  ...and we got 100 projects on the site now! Awesome, everyone involved!

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                                  @hek said:

                                  Happy to announce that ITead has joined in as manufacturing partner on openhardware.io.

                                  Sounds great! What exactly does that mean?

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                                    It means we can buy pcbs (and sometimes assembled boards) from two different manufacturers super easy, and at the same time support the author and community.

                                    You can compare prices instantly and do not need to handle gerber files or set any mystic parameters when placing the order.

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                                      I'm looking for some advice. I created a board for my own use to work with mysensors a long time ago and have continued to improve it. Others liked it so I began selling it on my site. We now want to introduce it to more people - so should I upload it to the openhardware.io community? I'm not exactly sure about this.

                                      The design itself is based on ATMega32u4 with RFM69 radio options. I like RFM69 better vs nRF24 for distance. 2.4GHz is also pretty crowded. By the way - Mysensors just continues to get better. I love having all these controller options. Here is a picture of the board. We like yellow boards because they are sunny! :)

                                      0_1476747355000_N2-E-RFM69W-Front-Tilt-1000x1000-869x543.png

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                                      • hekH hek

                                        It means we can buy pcbs (and sometimes assembled boards) from two different manufacturers super easy, and at the same time support the author and community.

                                        You can compare prices instantly and do not need to handle gerber files or set any mystic parameters when placing the order.

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                                        #42

                                        @hek
                                        What's your guidance regarding which type of licensing to pick on the pulldown menu? What are the trade-offs and pro's/con's of each?

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                                          I'm no expert on the pros/cons, but CERN seems to be a popular pick.

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