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  • hekH Offline
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    hek
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    #30

    It's tough for the manufacturers to produce assembled boards at competitive prices when producing 1 at the time...

    I'm playing with an idea of doing some sort of mini-crowd-funding function. Co-shopping so to speak. Like campaigns for 20, 50 or 100 boards to get a better price for small batch volumes.

    But it means I have to dig deep into payment provider apis and read the small print on their fees so we don't lose on big time their huge margins on every tiny transaction involved. Or if campaigns fail automate the refund.

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    • hekH hek

      It's tough for the manufacturers to produce assembled boards at competitive prices when producing 1 at the time...

      I'm playing with an idea of doing some sort of mini-crowd-funding function. Co-shopping so to speak. Like campaigns for 20, 50 or 100 boards to get a better price for small batch volumes.

      But it means I have to dig deep into payment provider apis and read the small print on their fees so we don't lose on big time their huge margins on every tiny transaction involved. Or if campaigns fail automate the refund.

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      #31

      @hek
      Would it be easier for you, to do some paypal stuff. so you can avoid all the payment provider stuff?

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        #32

        Paypal is a payment provider.

        Right now, I'm forwarding the payment handling to the manufacturer (to avoid double payment fees).

        But PayPal actually have some advanced chined/parallel/delayed payments that could be useful for a co-shopping function and to handle commission to author for simple orders. But it all depends on how PayPal fees turns out (do the chop a fee in every step?). I've send an email to their support (no replies yet...) to help me understand what is possible.

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          #33

          @hek How do you start a new (hardware) related topic without making a new project ? I have not figured that out.

          I was wondering if I could start a non-Mysensors hardware project, but before I do that I wanted to ask the question. I know I can make a new topic in the HARDWARE section of the MySensors forum, but that seemed wrong to me because I wanted to start a hardware topic on motor control (tangentially related to LED and fan control).

          So as they say in Singapore "so how to do lah ?"

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            #34

            How do we know order's state for buyed DIY kits from OH? I ordered a kit Saturday and haven't received any news from PCBWay or OH since then.
            I tried searching PCBWay site but no luck.

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              hek
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              #35

              https://www.openhardware.io/account#tabs-orders

              When order has been shipped, they send also send over tracking number which will be linked on that page.

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                #36

                Just received DIY kit (My Slim 2AA node), and they sent me SMD NRLF24+, not the standard :worried: Do I have to contact them?

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                • D danivalencia

                  Just received DIY kit (My Slim 2AA node), and they sent me SMD NRLF24+, not the standard :worried: Do I have to contact them?

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                  hek
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                  @danivalencia

                  PM me.

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                    hek
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                    wrote on last edited by hek
                    #38

                    Happy to announce that ITead has joined in as manufacturing partner on openhardware.io.

                    ...and we got 100 projects on the site now! Awesome, everyone involved!

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                    • hekH hek

                      Happy to announce that ITead has joined in as manufacturing partner on openhardware.io.

                      ...and we got 100 projects on the site now! Awesome, everyone involved!

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                      NeverDie
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #39

                      @hek said:

                      Happy to announce that ITead has joined in as manufacturing partner on openhardware.io.

                      Sounds great! What exactly does that mean?

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                        #40

                        It means we can buy pcbs (and sometimes assembled boards) from two different manufacturers super easy, and at the same time support the author and community.

                        You can compare prices instantly and do not need to handle gerber files or set any mystic parameters when placing the order.

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                          #41

                          I'm looking for some advice. I created a board for my own use to work with mysensors a long time ago and have continued to improve it. Others liked it so I began selling it on my site. We now want to introduce it to more people - so should I upload it to the openhardware.io community? I'm not exactly sure about this.

                          The design itself is based on ATMega32u4 with RFM69 radio options. I like RFM69 better vs nRF24 for distance. 2.4GHz is also pretty crowded. By the way - Mysensors just continues to get better. I love having all these controller options. Here is a picture of the board. We like yellow boards because they are sunny! :)

                          0_1476747355000_N2-E-RFM69W-Front-Tilt-1000x1000-869x543.png

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                          • hekH hek

                            It means we can buy pcbs (and sometimes assembled boards) from two different manufacturers super easy, and at the same time support the author and community.

                            You can compare prices instantly and do not need to handle gerber files or set any mystic parameters when placing the order.

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                            wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                            #42

                            @hek
                            What's your guidance regarding which type of licensing to pick on the pulldown menu? What are the trade-offs and pro's/con's of each?

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                              #43

                              I'm no expert on the pros/cons, but CERN seems to be a popular pick.

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                                Well, in that case, can anyone else here shed some light on it?

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                                  hek
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                                  I started this thread a long while back:
                                  https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2963/open-hardware-licenses

                                  Might be better for this discussion.

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                                  • hekH hek

                                    I started this thread a long while back:
                                    https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2963/open-hardware-licenses

                                    Might be better for this discussion.

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                                    wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                    #46

                                    @hek
                                    Which would the manufacturers most prefer that we use? For that matter, have the manufacturers manufactured anything yet? It seems what's novel (and promising) here is having a place where people can easily buy something and then automagically get the physical thing delivered to them, already assembled. Am I right? If people just want the files or PCB's and then take it from there, there are already commonly existing ways to do that, like posting them in a zipped file on a thread somewhere or on github.

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                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      Which would the manufacturers most prefer that we use?

                                      Not sure I understand what you mean here.

                                      For that matter, have the manufacturers manufactured anything yet?

                                      No, they will most probably manufacturer on demand. But they always have the option to stock popular boards to increase their margin.

                                      It seems what's novel (and promising) here is having a place where people can easily buy something and then automagically get the physical thing delivered to them, already assembled. Am I right?

                                      Yes, it is very easy to order a pcb (or assembled board where available) on the site. Especially for none electronics people. Without having to bother with weird file formats, layers and other cryptic stuff.

                                      If people just want the files or PCB's and then take it from there, there are already commonly existing ways to do that, like posting them in a zipped file on a thread somewhere or on github.

                                      Absolutely, everyone is free to manufacturer things anywhere. I don't care. But it's a nice gesture to support the author (they get a small kickback) when placing their order on openhardware.io.

                                      Anyhow, it's upp to the author to activate the sales function (by creating a revision under the sales-tab). Nothing gets activated automatically. Or if the author has the time, they can handles sales themselves, on ebay, just by adding the link in the sales tab (we fetch the price automatically and present it on openhardware.io).

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