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[ProMini] Blue LED on Pin 13 wont turn off

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  • sundberg84S Offline
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    wrote on last edited by sundberg84
    #2

    @rollercontainer - could be, some bootloaders use this led to indicare its ready.
    Arduino Pro Mini bootloader for example blinks if its loaded and waiting for a sketch to be uploaded. Depends on which bootloader you use and how that is coded.
    But once you upload a sketch on the original bootloader it does not blink (unless there is radio traffic - ie signals going to and from the nrf24l01+ on pin 13.

    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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      #3

      You are right, I missed that one. 13 is a radio pin AND the led output. So I have to move the radio pin or desolder the led, right?

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      • mfalkviddM Offline
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        #4

        I keep the led13 on my battery-powered units. It is useful for basic troubleshooting and the power used is small enough to be ignored.

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        • sundberg84S sundberg84

          @rollercontainer - could be, some bootloaders use this led to indicare its ready.
          Arduino Pro Mini bootloader for example blinks if its loaded and waiting for a sketch to be uploaded. Depends on which bootloader you use and how that is coded.
          But once you upload a sketch on the original bootloader it does not blink (unless there is radio traffic - ie signals going to and from the nrf24l01+ on pin 13.

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          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          @sundberg84 Thanks a lot for opening my eyes!

          I moved the radio to soft spi and now it works like intended.

          #define MY_DEBUG
          #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
          // RobotDyn Pro Mini 3,3V 8Mhz has blue LED on Pin13 which is used by radio and will be lit all the time.
          // Therfore, I moved the radio as it is done for the ethernet gateway.
          #define MY_SOFTSPI
          #define MY_SOFT_SPI_SCK_PIN 14  // Analog 0
          #define MY_SOFT_SPI_MOSI_PIN 15 // Analog 1
          #define MY_SOFT_SPI_MISO_PIN 16 // Analog 2
          #define MY_RF24_CE_PIN 5
          #define MY_RF24_CS_PIN 6
          
          #define SKETCH_NAME __FILENAME__
          #define SKETCH_DATE __DATE__
          #define MY_NODE_ID 70
          #define MY_PARENT_NODE_ID 0
          #define MY_REPEATER_FEATURE false
          
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            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            @rollercontainer

            And you opened my eyes with the soft-spi remark. I just realized this could be an option to connect a LCD to a pro-mini as some kind of temperature indicator for multiple sensors. This is still on my wish-list.

            • outside temperature (low, high, current).
            • multiple room temperatures
            • etc..

            Thanks,

            BR,

            Boozz

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            • rollercontainerR Offline
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              #7

              How about an I2C Display? Two wires on A4 &A5...

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                #8

                Going OT now - but @boozz here is an example of my i2c lcd (A4 + A5).
                https://www.openhardware.io/view/23/In-wall-LCD-SwitchScene-controller-for-MySensors

                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                • sundberg84S sundberg84

                  Going OT now - but @boozz here is an example of my i2c lcd (A4 + A5).
                  https://www.openhardware.io/view/23/In-wall-LCD-SwitchScene-controller-for-MySensors

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                  #9

                  @sundberg84

                  Thanks for the example, I'll have a look at it and yes we're going OT now. :grin:

                  BR,

                  Boozz

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    no problem, my fault was solved. Feel free to capture the thread ^^

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                    • mfalkviddM Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                      #11

                      Another thing that's slightly OT... How much more power does soft spi use compared to hardware spi? Is it more or less than the led?

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #12

                        Excellent question. I dont know.

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                          #13

                          Here are some scientific messurements: http://cc.oulu.fi/~kmikhayl/site-assets/pdfs/2012_NTMS.pdf

                          Table on last page says: SoftSPI consumes about double the electricity of a Hardware SPI on a PIC system. So, desoldering the LED is the thing to do.

                          Thx for the hint.

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