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💬 Connecting the Radio

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  • M Offline
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    manutremo
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    #115

    I would not expect anyone to put or take responsability on anyone for a piece of advice. I think we are here to help each other by sharing information and our own experiences.

    The full picture should be more than clear at this point for anyone reading this and other threads, but I will clarify once more. Best practice is using the rfm69 family with a logic level converter when connected with a 5v arduino, given that as of today the manufacturer's datasheet is not 100% clear on this area. From a problem solving perspective, keep in mind, however, that should a converter not be in place for any reason, the setup might or might not work, so if it doesn't don't discard it as a cause but don't take it for granted at 100%. And even if it works, do plan for adding a converter.

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      jkandasa
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      #116

      @hek @mfalkvidd RFM95 radio part connection details are missing.

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        maghac
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        #117

        Is it possible to change any of the radio pins 9, 10, 11 to something else? The reason is that I'd like to use 4 PWM pins and currently I only have pins 3,5,6 available on my Pro Mini.

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        • maghacM maghac

          Is it possible to change any of the radio pins 9, 10, 11 to something else? The reason is that I'd like to use 4 PWM pins and currently I only have pins 3,5,6 available on my Pro Mini.

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          mfalkvidd
          Mod
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          #118

          @maghac yes. Redefining for example the nss/cs pin is possible as described on the connecting the radio page.

          For more exact i structions we'd need to know which radio you are using.

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            maghac
            wrote on last edited by
            #119

            Thanks - I use NRF24 radios.

            I found MY_RF24_CE_PIN which I redefined to pin 8 which worked absolutely fine.

            The problem I have now is that now cannot use the Newbie PCB anymore :cold_sweat: :wink:

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            • maghacM maghac

              Thanks - I use NRF24 radios.

              I found MY_RF24_CE_PIN which I redefined to pin 8 which worked absolutely fine.

              The problem I have now is that now cannot use the Newbie PCB anymore :cold_sweat: :wink:

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              mfalkvidd
              Mod
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              #120

              @maghac doh!
              How about using a software pwm library instead? I have not tried any, but I have seen this before: https://github.com/Palatis/arduino-softpwm

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              • maghacM maghac

                Thanks - I use NRF24 radios.

                I found MY_RF24_CE_PIN which I redefined to pin 8 which worked absolutely fine.

                The problem I have now is that now cannot use the Newbie PCB anymore :cold_sweat: :wink:

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                sundberg84
                Hardware Contributor
                wrote on last edited by
                #121

                @maghac cut the trace with a small knife and re-attach it with a wire.

                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                  @maghac doh!
                  How about using a software pwm library instead? I have not tried any, but I have seen this before: https://github.com/Palatis/arduino-softpwm

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                  maghac
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                  #122

                  @mfalkvidd Maybe I'll give that a try.

                  I think FOTA will fail as the bootloader will try to initialise the radio with the default pin, right? Then I'll need software pwm or recompile my own bootloader.

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                  • maghacM maghac

                    @mfalkvidd Maybe I'll give that a try.

                    I think FOTA will fail as the bootloader will try to initialise the radio with the default pin, right? Then I'll need software pwm or recompile my own bootloader.

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                    gohan
                    Mod
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                    #123

                    @maghac or go for dual optiboot

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                    • gohanG gohan

                      @maghac or go for dual optiboot

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                      maghac
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                      #124

                      @gohan But then I would need additional hardware to use DualOptiBoot?

                      Anyone have any quick instructions on how to build a new custom version of MySensorsBootLoader using MY_RF24_CE_PIN = 8 :wink:

                      I have access to ArduinoIDE on Windows or a Ubuntu 16.04 box.

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                      • maghacM maghac

                        @gohan But then I would need additional hardware to use DualOptiBoot?

                        Anyone have any quick instructions on how to build a new custom version of MySensorsBootLoader using MY_RF24_CE_PIN = 8 :wink:

                        I have access to ArduinoIDE on Windows or a Ubuntu 16.04 box.

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                        gohan
                        Mod
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #125

                        @maghac yes, an spi flash chip. It is not a bad solution since the firmware is transferred during normal node operation and if it fails nothing bad happens.

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                        • gohanG gohan

                          @maghac yes, an spi flash chip. It is not a bad solution since the firmware is transferred during normal node operation and if it fails nothing bad happens.

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                          sundberg84
                          Hardware Contributor
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #126

                          @maghac - EasyPCB rev 10 will probably include spi flash ;)

                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                            alowhum
                            Plugin Developer
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #127

                            It might be an idea for the "connecting the radio" page on MySensors to point to these handy boards:
                            https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Nano-328P-IO-wireless-sensor-expansion-board-for-XBEE-and-NRF24L01-Socket-for-arduino/32298692903.html

                            Then people have to just plug in the NRF24 boards. And it also makes it much easier to connect lots of sensors. I wish I had known about these boards earlier, it would have saved me a lot of time.

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                              gohan
                              Mod
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                              #128

                              It depends if you want to go with the nano or the pro mini like many nodes use

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                                KimmoHop
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                                #129

                                Just noticed, that MySensors 2.2 changed default RF24 CS pin on Mega2560 from pin 10 to pin 53 (SS) :/ I could not find any reference to the change from 2.2 change log nor from pull request (722)... No wonder RF24 worked with 2.1.1 but not with 2.2 on M2560.
                                Contrary to instruction above, I wanted to continue with old pins (same as on Uno) and set the pins explicitly to MY_RF24_CE_PIN=9 & MY_RF24_CS_PIN=10. Now transport seems quite good (with combined HW and SW ack, static GW address, no routers) :)

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                                • KimmoHopK KimmoHop

                                  Just noticed, that MySensors 2.2 changed default RF24 CS pin on Mega2560 from pin 10 to pin 53 (SS) :/ I could not find any reference to the change from 2.2 change log nor from pull request (722)... No wonder RF24 worked with 2.1.1 but not with 2.2 on M2560.
                                  Contrary to instruction above, I wanted to continue with old pins (same as on Uno) and set the pins explicitly to MY_RF24_CE_PIN=9 & MY_RF24_CS_PIN=10. Now transport seems quite good (with combined HW and SW ack, static GW address, no routers) :)

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                                  mfalkvidd
                                  Mod
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #130

                                  @kimmohop thanks for reporting. Looks like the change was introduced in commit b132a8a81e2ba6c81bcc6e2afce7513cdddbe193. I have added a message to the release notes.

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                                    alowhum
                                    Plugin Developer
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                                    #131

                                    @gohan perhaps it can be added to the buying advice page? There the Nano is advised.

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                                    • alowhumA alowhum

                                      @gohan perhaps it can be added to the buying advice page? There the Nano is advised.

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                                      mfalkvidd
                                      Mod
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #132

                                      @alowhum which of the buing pages are you referring to? https://www.mysensors.org/store/buying_guide has the pro mini.

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                                        alowhum
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                                        #133

                                        @mfalkvidd: Yes that's the page I'm referring to.

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                                        • alowhumA alowhum

                                          @mfalkvidd: Yes that's the page I'm referring to.

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                                          Mod
                                          wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                                          #134

                                          @alowhum I'm confused. Could you clarify what you want us to change on that page?

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