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  • skywatchS skywatch

    I am using a pro mini 3.3v 8MHz. I would ideally like to get a 1MHZ bootloader onto it but the last try stopped the temperature sensors sending data (although battery levels were still sent!)..... Hope it helps.

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    #136

    @skywatch could you also print the return value of the sleep function. Maybe that interrupt is triggering it so it returns early?

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      wrote on last edited by skywatch
      #137

      Sorry for the dealy, I have had a week of plumbing problems at home - yuck! :(

      So, I came back fresh to this and noticed that I had put the interrupt into the code ready for the water leak sensor (apt considering this weeks activities!) - BUT, I had not assigned the pin nor initialised it in the code. So maybe it was floating and giving random triggers?
      I tested by changing from int8_t sleep(1, FALLING, SLEEP_TIME); to int8_t sleep(SLEEP_TIME); but now I get battery level sent every single second! - This is making me crazy......

      The log for the gateway has the following.....

      Sep  3 07:00:37 HAAS rsyslogd-2007: action 'action 17' suspended, next retry is Sun Sep  3 07:02:07 2017 [try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2007 ]
      Sep  3 06:26:28 HAAS rsyslogd0: action 'action 17' resumed (module 'builtin:ompipe') [try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/0 ]
      Sep  3 06:26:28 HAAS rsyslogd-2359: action 'action 17' resumed (module 'builtin:ompipe') [try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2359 ]
      

      Not sure what the above is all about. Nor the below....

      7:15:45 HAAS dhcpcd[474]: eth0: Router Advertisement from fe80::3291:8fff:fe06:64bc
      

      But here is sending data every second.....

      Sep  3 12:46:52 HAAS mysgw: TSF:MSG:READ,5-5-0,s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:75
      Sep  3 12:46:53 HAAS mysgw: TSF:MSG:READ,5-5-0,s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:75
      Sep  3 12:46:54 HAAS mysgw: TSF:MSG:READ,5-5-0,s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:75
      Sep  3 12:46:55 HAAS mysgw: TSF:MSG:READ,5-5-0,s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:75
      Sep  3 12:46:56 HAAS mysgw: TSF:MSG:READ,5-5-0,s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:75
      Sep  3 12:46:57 HAAS mysgw: TSF:MSG:READ,5-5-0,s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:75
      Sep  3 12:46:58 HAAS mysgw: TSF:MSG:READ,5-5-0,s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:75
      Sep  3 12:46:59 HAAS mysgw: TSF:MSG:READ,5-5-0,s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:75
      Sep  3 12:47:00 HAAS mysgw: TSF:MSG:READ,5-5-0,s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:75
      

      Will try debug on node next....

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      • skywatchS Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
        #138

        I.m sure it is a bug in 2.2.0-beta as I have the same issues with another node sending data whenever it changes and not sleeping.

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          dertho
          wrote on last edited by
          #139

          Hi,

          is there any known problem / bug with version 2.1.* and the Dallas temp sensor? (I found non in the bug tracker and/or forum)

          I updated several nodes from 1.5 to 2.1.1 and now no temp sensor is working. No temp sensor DS18B20 is found by the node, therefore -127.0 is returned to the controller. I checked the wiring - as illustrated in this manual, everything seems right; incl. the pull-up with 4,7 k. I use the modified version of the Dallas-Library included in the examples package, as stated out in this manual.

          Thanks,
          Thomas

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          • Mohammed ZamanM Offline
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            Mohammed Zaman
            wrote on last edited by
            #140

            I am not a programmer, but trying to learn by making small projects.
            I am trying to build a arduino/ESP8266 with temp sensor so that at a particular set temp it sends a single to another arduino/ESP8266 with relay to turn on a cooler/heater. if there is a thread on this, please help me find it.

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            • Mohammed ZamanM Mohammed Zaman

              I am not a programmer, but trying to learn by making small projects.
              I am trying to build a arduino/ESP8266 with temp sensor so that at a particular set temp it sends a single to another arduino/ESP8266 with relay to turn on a cooler/heater. if there is a thread on this, please help me find it.

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              wrote on last edited by
              #141

              @Mohammed-Zaman This seems to be possible, you may find more info wrt your topic using "node to node communication" as a keyword for searching the forum.
              This might be a good starting point: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/6386/almost-controller-less-mysensors-switch-light-network/8#

              Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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              • gohanG Offline
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                gohan
                Mod
                wrote on last edited by
                #142

                https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/7810/alternative-passive-mode if you don't want to use a gateway.

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                • mrwombleM mrwomble

                  Hi there, I'm new to Mysensors and I thought I'd start with a simple DS Temp sensor. However, I'm getting compile errors when I try compile it. Can someone please point me in the right direction?

                  Arduino: 1.6.11 (Windows 7), Board: "Arduino Nano, ATmega328"
                  
                  WARNING: Category 'Sensor' in library DallasTemperature is not valid. Setting to 'Uncategorized'
                  In file included from C:\Users\Admin\Documents\Arduino\Projects\MS Temp sensor node\DallasTemperatureSensor\DallasTemperatureSensor.ino:37:0:
                  
                  C:\Users\Admin\Documents\Arduino\libraries\DallasTemperature/DallasTemperature.h: In function 'void loop()':
                  
                  C:\Users\Admin\Documents\Arduino\libraries\DallasTemperature/DallasTemperature.h:249:13: error: 'int16_t DallasTemperature::millisToWaitForConversion(uint8_t)' is private
                  
                       int16_t millisToWaitForConversion(uint8_t);
                  
                               ^
                  
                  DallasTemperatureSensor:85: error: within this context
                  
                     int16_t conversionTime = sensors.millisToWaitForConversion(sensors.getResolution());
                  
                                                                                                       ^
                  
                  Multiple libraries were found for "DallasTemperature.h"
                   Used: C:\Users\Admin\Documents\Arduino\libraries\DallasTemperature
                   Not used: C:\Users\Admin\Documents\Arduino\libraries\Arduino-Temperature-Control-Library-master
                  exit status 1
                  within this context
                  
                  This report would have more information with
                  "Show verbose output during compilation"
                  option enabled in File -> Preferences.
                  
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                  sjoerd14
                  wrote on last edited by sjoerd14
                  #143

                  regarding error:

                  C:\Users\Admin\Documents\Arduino\libraries\DallasTemperature/DallasTemperature.h:249:13: error: 'int16_t DallasTemperature::millisToWaitForConversion(uint8_t)' is private

                  In the latest version of Miles Burton's the function is public and compiling fine.
                  https://github.com/milesburton/Arduino-Temperature-Control-Library

                  You can import the Lib as zip.
                  You have to remove \ archive the lib: ...\libraries\DallasTemperature

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                  • S sjoerd14

                    regarding error:

                    C:\Users\Admin\Documents\Arduino\libraries\DallasTemperature/DallasTemperature.h:249:13: error: 'int16_t DallasTemperature::millisToWaitForConversion(uint8_t)' is private

                    In the latest version of Miles Burton's the function is public and compiling fine.
                    https://github.com/milesburton/Arduino-Temperature-Control-Library

                    You can import the Lib as zip.
                    You have to remove \ archive the lib: ...\libraries\DallasTemperature

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                    mfalkvidd
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #144

                    @sjoerd14 yes, thanks to MySensors user David Ducatel. The change is tracked in https://github.com/mysensors/MySensorsArduinoExamples/issues/20 and https://github.com/milesburton/Arduino-Temperature-Control-Library/pull/72 but we're still waiting for an official release of milesburton's library.

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                    • nofoxN Offline
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                      #145

                      Hi, I have few in wall nodes mounted under the light switches. I have two relays and one DS18B20 in each node. When i'm turning light on, switching the relay, the DS18B20 readings jumping about 0.8 degrees celsius up. When I switch off the relay readings back to normal. Anyone have similar problems ? Sensors are away from from node board, relays etc. so it's not about the heat from atmega or relays.

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                      • gohanG Offline
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                        gohan
                        Mod
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #146

                        Is the temperature gradually rising after the relay is activated or it is instantly jumping 0.8°?

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                          nofox
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #147

                          Jumping 0.8 immediately after switching the relay and sometimes rising very slow during the time when relay is on.

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                            gohan
                            Mod
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #148

                            That makes it quite difficult to figure out the problem. Can you make another node with same setup and see if you get the same results and if you do try unplug the relay and see what happens

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                              skywatch
                              wrote on last edited by skywatch
                              #149

                              It's probably a voltage drop from the psu when the relay is engaged and drawing current. That will cause the output voltage to dip slightly.

                              If it is only momentary you can add a beefy capacitor across the power supply, but if the readings change for the whole time the relay is on, you really need to replace the relay with something that uses less power (triac/mosfet??) - Or get a more stable power supply with good regulation.

                              A final thing might be more noise on the power line with the psu sending more current with the relay on. again a smoothing capacitor would help if this were the case.

                              You could also try looking into the wiring and see if the relay cables and the ds18b20 cables are far enough apart, some induction might be going on there between the cables. Also, make sure everything goes back to a single ground point. I can't imagine how an earth loop would cause what you describe, but it's always a good thing to do.....

                              Another thought to think about is matbe the magnetic field from the relap power cables are inducing into the sensor cables.

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                                #150

                                Hi
                                Can we talk about redundancy please? What if one or more sensor fail on a one-wire bus? Would it make the whole line unusable?
                                As part of a central heating MySensorization i would like to have groups of 3 sensors and have some sort of redundancy check.
                                Would i be allowed to run multiple one-wire busses on a single arduino?
                                Thanks a lot foryour help

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                                • ben999B ben999

                                  Hi
                                  Can we talk about redundancy please? What if one or more sensor fail on a one-wire bus? Would it make the whole line unusable?
                                  As part of a central heating MySensorization i would like to have groups of 3 sensors and have some sort of redundancy check.
                                  Would i be allowed to run multiple one-wire busses on a single arduino?
                                  Thanks a lot foryour help

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                                  mfalkvidd
                                  Mod
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #151

                                  @ben999 you can have as many onewire buses as you have digital pins. Just add more of these:

                                  #define ONE_WIRE_BUS 3 // Pin where dallase sensor is connected 
                                  OneWire oneWire(ONE_WIRE_BUS);
                                  
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                                  • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                                    @ben999 you can have as many onewire buses as you have digital pins. Just add more of these:

                                    #define ONE_WIRE_BUS 3 // Pin where dallase sensor is connected 
                                    OneWire oneWire(ONE_WIRE_BUS);
                                    
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                                    ben999
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #152

                                    @mfalkvidd thanks a lot. Yes, that looks good to me. I will have a go.

                                    The real big question now is about what happens when one or more sensor fails on the line.
                                    I am not talking about removing a sensor, which doesn't produce any fault.
                                    My concern is how does a DS18 ends its life under normal operation? Complete shortcut?

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                                    • ben999B ben999

                                      @mfalkvidd thanks a lot. Yes, that looks good to me. I will have a go.

                                      The real big question now is about what happens when one or more sensor fails on the line.
                                      I am not talking about removing a sensor, which doesn't produce any fault.
                                      My concern is how does a DS18 ends its life under normal operation? Complete shortcut?

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                                      Mod
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #153

                                      @ben999 I don't think there are any guarantees on how it will fail. If there are, the datasheet should list them.

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                                      • ben999B ben999

                                        @mfalkvidd thanks a lot. Yes, that looks good to me. I will have a go.

                                        The real big question now is about what happens when one or more sensor fails on the line.
                                        I am not talking about removing a sensor, which doesn't produce any fault.
                                        My concern is how does a DS18 ends its life under normal operation? Complete shortcut?

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                                        zboblamont
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                                        #154

                                        @ben999 I cannot remember WHERE I read it, but if a DS18B20 fails it will either send impossible results when addressed or fail to be addressed at all as it is digitally addressed. Only cable short circuits can pull the entire chain down, as I found out when two socket pins had crossed over (sensor crimped into telephone plugs).

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                                        • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                                          @ben999 I don't think there are any guarantees on how it will fail. If there are, the datasheet should list them.

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                                          #155

                                          @mfalkvidd thank you for the idea. Had a look (boooooring reading for me :D ) but no mention to failiure

                                          @zboblamont you're right. Seems that a faulty sensor return "85" (top of my head). And a "dead" sensor looses its bus address (next sensor on the chain takes its address and so on)

                                          Thanks a lot gentlemen :)

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