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    tlund
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    #154

    @tbowmo
    Sorry I was a bit unclear. I would like to buy all components as a package from you/mysensors. Preferably assembled, but I would also accept if you sell it unassembled (pcb+components). I would rather not have to source the components myself :)

    Btw, have you measured the actual power consumption? Sleep vs temp/hum measurement?

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      @tlund

      I haven't measured supply current, as I don't have the equipment to do that. I am looking at getting the uCurrent gold from eevblog, but it's expensive to import it to Denmark.

      It will probably not be offered as a kit. Too much work from my/our part :-)

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        hek
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        @tbowmo said:

        uCurrent gold

        I can probably test it using mine. Any plans going to Skåne soon ;)

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          Alphalove
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          Hello, I'd be in for at least 5 assembled boards.

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            #158

            Soo .. this like a breadmix ? :) All we have to add is the sensors ?

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              #159

              @hek

              You already got an ucurrent? I had planned to import an extra one from Australia for you :) (thought that we might be able to save some $ if we ordered 4-5 units).

              But as so many other things i got away from it again :(

              Unfortunately I only come to Copenhagen these days, visiting a client.

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                @JimmyH

                There is a temperature / humidity sensor on it already. But more can be added :)

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                  hek
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                  #161

                  Ok, pushed a product page to the main site just now. Hope the page is selling enough. ;)

                  http://www.mysensors.org/hardware/micro

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                    "ATSHA204A sot23 footprint on board"

                    So does that mean this run will not have the ATSHA204A populated?

                    RJ_Make

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                      @ServiceXp

                      We haven't started production yet, I'm still waiting for the latest prototype pcb to arrive from China, before I can make the (hopefully) last prototype before "mass production". Which also means I have to find the atsha204 somewhere, so I can test it.

                      And yes I know mouser has it, but I don't need that much more from them, so will have to pay a big handling/shipping fee to them

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                        hek
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                        @Anticimex , did you have any spare atsha204 left?

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                        • tbowmoT tbowmo

                          @ServiceXp

                          We haven't started production yet, I'm still waiting for the latest prototype pcb to arrive from China, before I can make the (hopefully) last prototype before "mass production". Which also means I have to find the atsha204 somewhere, so I can test it.

                          And yes I know mouser has it, but I don't need that much more from them, so will have to pay a big handling/shipping fee to them

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                          @tbowmo Have you looked on AliExpress. A quick search seems to suggest that could be a viable alternative. Try some different search combinations though ... their search engine sucks. "ATSHA204" wont find "ATSHA204A" for instance when I try.

                          Wont be quick though, and the Chinese New Year is coming up ...

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                            I can part with a SOT23 ATSHA204A if necessary. They can also be sampled from Atmel in small quantities for free (that's what I did).

                            Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                              I can part with a SOT23 ATSHA204A if necessary. They can also be sampled from Atmel in small quantities for free (that's what I did).

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                              @Anticimex said:

                              sampled

                              Do you remember the deliver time on samples?

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                                @Anticimex said:

                                sampled

                                Do you remember the deliver time on samples?

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                                Anticimex
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                                @hek It took three days from order confirmation to shipment notification. I don't recall the transit times but it went out with DHL WW Express so it should be pretty fast. Say 5-10 working days tops.

                                Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                  @hek It took three days from order confirmation to shipment notification. I don't recall the transit times but it went out with DHL WW Express so it should be pretty fast. Say 5-10 working days tops.

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                                  @Anticimex said:

                                  @hek It took three days from order confirmation to shipment notification. I don't recall the transit times but it went out with DHL WW Express so it should be pretty fast. Say 5-10 working days

                                  hmm what is the sample quantity limit?

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                                    @Anticimex said:

                                    @hek It took three days from order confirmation to shipment notification. I don't recall the transit times but it went out with DHL WW Express so it should be pretty fast. Say 5-10 working days

                                    hmm what is the sample quantity limit?

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                                    @tbowmo I don't remember. But I got at least three (don't think I requested more since at the time I was not sure it would meet my personal demands, nor if the MySensors community would accept it). Since it is now kind of "official" I guess it has :)

                                    Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                      @tbowmo I don't remember. But I got at least three (don't think I requested more since at the time I was not sure it would meet my personal demands, nor if the MySensors community would accept it). Since it is now kind of "official" I guess it has :)

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                                      @Anticimex said:

                                      @tbowmo I don't remember. But I got at least three (don't think I requested more since at the time I was not sure it would meet my personal demands, nor if the MySensors community would accept it). Since it is now kind of "official" I guess it has :)

                                      ok, I'll try and get some samples then.

                                      Has there been any work done to support easy initialization of the keys on new devices?

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                                        @Anticimex said:

                                        @tbowmo I don't remember. But I got at least three (don't think I requested more since at the time I was not sure it would meet my personal demands, nor if the MySensors community would accept it). Since it is now kind of "official" I guess it has :)

                                        ok, I'll try and get some samples then.

                                        Has there been any work done to support easy initialization of the keys on new devices?

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                                        Anticimex
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                                        @tbowmo That's already done. Available in development branch. I will update it to support devices without UART in the near future. Check libraries/sha204/examples/sha204_personalizer
                                        Auto-generation of keys is supported as well as manually contributed ones (all devices in the same environment needs to share a key). All necessary personalization for MySensors usage is done (default settings are fine) and locking of both configuration and data sections are suppored (only configuration section is mandatory to lock).

                                        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                          @Anticimex

                                          It's wit a separate sketch, right? Can we do anything in the protocol for key initialization? So when a device asks for a node Id it could also get the shared key supplied via radio?

                                          I am thinking about creating a plug and play ready unit, with a preloaded sensor sketch from the factory in China, would be nice if people had an easy method of initializing things without reloading other sketches

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