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  • tbowmoT Offline
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    #278

    @Tibus

    In theory ceramic capacitors should be better, it has a lower ESR, and are better suited to reduce ripple, or noise on the supply locally, as it has a faster response to power requirements, than equivalent electrolytic capacitors.

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    • M Offline
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      #279

      will it be possible to use this board pcb without soldering the sensor , flash and security chip?

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      • M Mickey

        will it be possible to use this board pcb without soldering the sensor , flash and security chip?

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        @Mickey

        Yes, you can use it without those mounted. But I don't think that we are going to sell it without those components mounted

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        • Roberto BrunialtiR Offline
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          #281

          Any good news about the d-day (delivery day :smiley: ) ?

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          • hekH Offline
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            Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

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            • hekH hek

              Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

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              @hek said:

              Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

              You would run-out of units very soon...

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              • Roberto BrunialtiR Offline
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                #284

                when preorders will be available ?

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                • Roberto BrunialtiR Roberto Brunialti

                  when preorders will be available ?

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                  #285

                  @Roberto-Brunialti

                  I will check with Itead Studio if their shop can handle pre-orders.

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                  • M Mickey

                    @hek said:

                    Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

                    You would run-out of units very soon...

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                    @Mickey

                    Then we will make another 200 (or more, depending on requests) :)

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                    • hautomateH Offline
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                      #287

                      What's the expected price point for these?

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                      • tbowmoT Offline
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                        @hautomate

                        They are going for 14$ plus shipping.. Expected shipping date is set to 20th of May.

                        (the project is receiving about 1$ for each unit sold)

                        / Thomas

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                        • gaduG Offline
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                          Oh! Where do I order?! Been waiting for this!

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                          • tbowmoT Offline
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                            @gadu

                            An initial product page is up at iteadstudio : http://imall.iteadstudio.com/mysensors-micro.html

                            We are working on updating product description etc.

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                            • DwaltD Offline
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                              FYI - ITead is already taking preorders for the board.

                              Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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                              • Roberto BrunialtiR Offline
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                                #292

                                Hi, I have ordered some boards from Itead. Just some doubts: is the board a 5v or a 3.3? what's about nrf24 decoupling capacitor? May I assume the nrf24 is correctly powered at 3.3 V by the board?
                                Sorry but i'm on the "soft" side more than the "hard" ...:-)

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                                • Roberto BrunialtiR Roberto Brunialti

                                  Hi, I have ordered some boards from Itead. Just some doubts: is the board a 5v or a 3.3? what's about nrf24 decoupling capacitor? May I assume the nrf24 is correctly powered at 3.3 V by the board?
                                  Sorry but i'm on the "soft" side more than the "hard" ...:-)

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                                  @Roberto-Brunialti The board is "2XAA" battery, in other words; 3V. Some components on the board won't survive 5V so it is important not to use that voltage. Decoupling for the radio is onboard.

                                  Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                    #294

                                    The board has it's "own" thread as of now:
                                    http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1345/sensebender-micro

                                    Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                    • Roberto BrunialtiR Offline
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                                      Roberto Brunialti
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                                      that ìs fine for me!

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                                        Hi, i ordered some boards from OSHPark and at the weekend i solder this thing together. Here a pic from my work :)

                                        IMG_3099.JPG - Windows Photo Viewer 2015-05-11 10.11.04.png

                                        Ok, it's work. You see, i have old nrf24 Modules they have not the same pinout, but i ordered some here in germany.

                                        Some points to the design:

                                        • this pcb has on both sides small SMD Components, that very hard to solder. I solder my one with an IR Oven and can only solder one side. It's mostly ok becouse on the second size i can solder with an iron, but never 04 components :)
                                        • the size of smd components are too small, i understand this when you use the small Atemag328p MLF and only 04 components. Better are 0603 or 0805.

                                        Ok, enough ... the board are great and give me a lot of ideas to my board. my are a small bigger but use the nrf24l01+ SMD version and a normal arduino pro mini. Please have a look:

                                        1 Board - C__Users_D063239_ownCloud_Xambi_Xambi_kids_PROTOTYPE_xambikid_mini_pro_Arduino-Pro-Mini-xkid.brd - EAGLE 7.2.0 Light 2015-05-11 10.22.13.png

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                                        • Frank HerrmannF Frank Herrmann

                                          Hi, i ordered some boards from OSHPark and at the weekend i solder this thing together. Here a pic from my work :)

                                          IMG_3099.JPG - Windows Photo Viewer 2015-05-11 10.11.04.png

                                          Ok, it's work. You see, i have old nrf24 Modules they have not the same pinout, but i ordered some here in germany.

                                          Some points to the design:

                                          • this pcb has on both sides small SMD Components, that very hard to solder. I solder my one with an IR Oven and can only solder one side. It's mostly ok becouse on the second size i can solder with an iron, but never 04 components :)
                                          • the size of smd components are too small, i understand this when you use the small Atemag328p MLF and only 04 components. Better are 0603 or 0805.

                                          Ok, enough ... the board are great and give me a lot of ideas to my board. my are a small bigger but use the nrf24l01+ SMD version and a normal arduino pro mini. Please have a look:

                                          1 Board - C__Users_D063239_ownCloud_Xambi_Xambi_kids_PROTOTYPE_xambikid_mini_pro_Arduino-Pro-Mini-xkid.brd - EAGLE 7.2.0 Light 2015-05-11 10.22.13.png

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                                          @Frank-Herrmann

                                          looks nice. And yes, I know that 0603 is prefered for home soldering. However, as we are going to get this SMD assembled in china, there is no problem in using 0402 components.

                                          Also, if I where to use 0603 (or 0804 for that matter), the board would be bigger.

                                          I am working on another pcb now (a GW for mysensors), where I am going for 0603, as I don't have the same size restrictions, as I had when doing this board. This will also be double sided (so far anyways, might change it down the road)

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