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  • Ivan ZI Ivan Z

    @AWI
    What regulator do you use?

    I do not use the regulator because it has a extremeconsumption
    AMS1117-3.3 = 5~10mV in idle

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    AWI
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    @Ivan-Z I use the XC6206 series regulator. most of the times. The quiescent current for this one is very low 1-3 uA. This regulator is used by many of the sensor board suppliers to supply sensors with 3.3v Eg. In many cases (eg Adafruit) you can use the board as a "3.3v power supply"
    upload-087eda80-75af-457b-804a-a16e6d67612f

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      Hi guys. I'm waiting for your board!
      the only concern is about the 2xAA batteries adoption that could increase the overall size of a sensor node to a "normal node" size ( http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/s/devduino.html?search_in_description=0).
      I would like a stack as following: battery+board+radio. with the same footprint of the radio module.
      The battery could be a CR123 with regulator, and the holder could be a pcb holder as this: http://www.memoryprotectiondevices.com/datasheets/BH-CR2-PC-datasheet.pdf
      I actually ordered some of these: http://www.elecrow.com/devduino-sensor-node-v4-atmega-328-p-1201.html, at this moment the closest to my size requirements.
      What do you think.?

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      • Roberto BrunialtiR Roberto Brunialti

        Hi guys. I'm waiting for your board!
        the only concern is about the 2xAA batteries adoption that could increase the overall size of a sensor node to a "normal node" size ( http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/s/devduino.html?search_in_description=0).
        I would like a stack as following: battery+board+radio. with the same footprint of the radio module.
        The battery could be a CR123 with regulator, and the holder could be a pcb holder as this: http://www.memoryprotectiondevices.com/datasheets/BH-CR2-PC-datasheet.pdf
        I actually ordered some of these: http://www.elecrow.com/devduino-sensor-node-v4-atmega-328-p-1201.html, at this moment the closest to my size requirements.
        What do you think.?

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        @Roberto-Brunialti I am looking forward to this board also. I deployed a few Devduino V4's. These are really well built but lack the "minimal" size, have only a few connectors (enough in most cases as a good temp/hum sensor is on board).. And "restrict" you to the use of non-rechargable CR123 cells (3V,no regulator). I will love the very small footprint combined with the flexibility in power sources (and extra features) in the "Minimal design thoughts" design. :heart_eyes:

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          Think we should rename the thread to "Mysensors Micro" as this is the new name, since it's the first "official" board from mysensors.

          Anyway, just got a couple of pictures from the factory in China, they have build the first batch of 5 pcb's that they are verifying at the moment, and then they should be shipped to us (either @hek or me?) and then we need to verify it, before giving a go on the production.

          So we are comming closer to a "launch" of the device.

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            Think we should rename the thread to "Mysensors Micro" as this is the new name, since it's the first "official" board from mysensors.

            Anyway, just got a couple of pictures from the factory in China, they have build the first batch of 5 pcb's that they are verifying at the moment, and then they should be shipped to us (either @hek or me?) and then we need to verify it, before giving a go on the production.

            So we are comming closer to a "launch" of the device.

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            @tbowmo

            Yep, might also be good to create a new thread in Announcement when it has been launched (and is for sale) with a back-reference here for history/design decisions made by you.

            I should probably start working on a more complete page on the main site with more details and illustrations.

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              In your design, C3, the nrf 4u7 capacitor, is a classic ceramic capacitor. In the mysensors tutorial, they write a polarized capacitor is better for the NRF. I use tantalum capacitor wich are bigger but is there a difference with the ceramic one for the nrf. I would like to use a ceramic 0603 too if there is no difference for nrf.

              Thank's

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                @Tibus

                In theory ceramic capacitors should be better, it has a lower ESR, and are better suited to reduce ripple, or noise on the supply locally, as it has a faster response to power requirements, than equivalent electrolytic capacitors.

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                  will it be possible to use this board pcb without soldering the sensor , flash and security chip?

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                    will it be possible to use this board pcb without soldering the sensor , flash and security chip?

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                    @Mickey

                    Yes, you can use it without those mounted. But I don't think that we are going to sell it without those components mounted

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                      Any good news about the d-day (delivery day :smiley: ) ?

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                        Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

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                          Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

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                          @hek said:

                          Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

                          You would run-out of units very soon...

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                            when preorders will be available ?

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                            • Roberto BrunialtiR Roberto Brunialti

                              when preorders will be available ?

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                              @Roberto-Brunialti

                              I will check with Itead Studio if their shop can handle pre-orders.

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                                @hek said:

                                Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

                                You would run-out of units very soon...

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                                @Mickey

                                Then we will make another 200 (or more, depending on requests) :)

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                                  What's the expected price point for these?

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                                    @hautomate

                                    They are going for 14$ plus shipping.. Expected shipping date is set to 20th of May.

                                    (the project is receiving about 1$ for each unit sold)

                                    / Thomas

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                                      gadu
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                                      Oh! Where do I order?! Been waiting for this!

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                                        @gadu

                                        An initial product page is up at iteadstudio : http://imall.iteadstudio.com/mysensors-micro.html

                                        We are working on updating product description etc.

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                                          FYI - ITead is already taking preorders for the board.

                                          Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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