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what is related this error ?

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  • martinhjelmareM Offline
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    The node tries to find a parent within the network but gets no reply. Radio/range problems? Follow the troubleshooting flowchart here:
    https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/666/debug-faq-and-how-ask-for-help

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      The node tries to find a parent within the network but gets no reply. Radio/range problems? Follow the troubleshooting flowchart here:
      https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/666/debug-faq-and-how-ask-for-help

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      @martinhjelmare

      i see this. but i can not found my problem ! i have this error but my device is near(1 meter) gateway and dont need search parent i change gateway. change radio , arduino , wire etc... but i have this problem yet

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        What does the corresponding log from the gateway look like? Does it receive, respond and send ok when the node sends the find parent message? Looking at both ends of the conversation usually helps determining at which end the problem might be.

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        • martinhjelmareM martinhjelmare

          What does the corresponding log from the gateway look like? Does it receive, respond and send ok when the node sends the find parent message? Looking at both ends of the conversation usually helps determining at which end the problem might be.

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          @martinhjelmare
          most node first can not connect to gateway.similar to error in up.but some node connect hardly but after connect, in serial monitor , most of command is NACK.
          i have not this problem with sensors. this problem is just related to relays. power of node is ok (also i test this with a 5v 10A power supply. but power of gateway is from orangepi board.
          this is complicate for me. sensors is ok and report all states but relays... perhaps is related my sketchs. i dont know :(

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          • martinhjelmareM martinhjelmare

            What does the corresponding log from the gateway look like? Does it receive, respond and send ok when the node sends the find parent message? Looking at both ends of the conversation usually helps determining at which end the problem might be.

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            @martinhjelmare
            i think this is related to power of gateway! because sensors just report to gateway and gateway dont send any command, so work well. but for relay, gateway want send command and ack... so have problem , i dont know i am confuse:(

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              You could be on to something. Although the gateway will still have to send some things to sensors, like parent reply etc. If you want more input I suggest you record logs of both gateway and a node in parallel, and post it here.

              Previously there's been reports of the gateway performing better with two capacitors in parallel with the radio instead of the regular one capacitor, or a higher value on the capacitor compared to nodes.

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              • martinhjelmareM martinhjelmare

                You could be on to something. Although the gateway will still have to send some things to sensors, like parent reply etc. If you want more input I suggest you record logs of both gateway and a node in parallel, and post it here.

                Previously there's been reports of the gateway performing better with two capacitors in parallel with the radio instead of the regular one capacitor, or a higher value on the capacitor compared to nodes.

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                @martinhjelmare
                thank you, i want put a capacitor for serial gateway. where i put capacitor ? serial gateway is connect to controller with a usb cable , now where i put capacitor?

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                  I was referring to the recommended decoupling capacitor for the radio. This is described here:
                  https://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio#connecting-a-decoupling-capacitor

                  Next step would be to try to change the power source for the arduino and/or radio entirely.
                  This page has several important points at the top about power:
                  https://www.mysensors.org/build/debug

                  These are some questions that might be important:
                  You said you're powering the gateway from an OrangePi. How are you powering the OrangePi? Do you know the power specs of the USB ports on your OrangePi? How have you built your gateway, and what power does it require? Particularly, what radio module is the gateway using, amplified or non-amplified?

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                    I was referring to the recommended decoupling capacitor for the radio. This is described here:
                    https://www.mysensors.org/build/connect_radio#connecting-a-decoupling-capacitor

                    Next step would be to try to change the power source for the arduino and/or radio entirely.
                    This page has several important points at the top about power:
                    https://www.mysensors.org/build/debug

                    These are some questions that might be important:
                    You said you're powering the gateway from an OrangePi. How are you powering the OrangePi? Do you know the power specs of the USB ports on your OrangePi? How have you built your gateway, and what power does it require? Particularly, what radio module is the gateway using, amplified or non-amplified?

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                    @martinhjelmare
                    i test all of state for gateway and nodes. states:
                    serial gateway and relay nodes + usual radio
                    serial gateway and relay nodes + usual radio + 4.7u and 100u capacitor
                    serial gateway and relay nodes + nRF24L01+PA+LNA with antenna
                    serial gateway and relay nodes + nRF24L01+PA+LNA with antenna + 4.7u and 100 capacitor
                    serial gateway and relay nodes + usual radio + adapter radio
                    serial gateway and relay nodes + nRF24L01+PA+LNA with antenna + adapter radio
                    i am tired really:( now i think power of gateway is weak.(power of nodes is ok and i test it) but power of serial gate way is with usb from orangepi. this is orangepi one and have one port usb and i use this for serial gateway. i dont know how i see power of usb port! but i think most of error is NACK so gateway can not work well. so i want from you to help for capacitor for input arduino , no input radio. i test all of state input for radio....
                    power of orange pi is 5v 2A.
                    thank you

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                      @martinhjelmare
                      i test all of state for gateway and nodes. states:
                      serial gateway and relay nodes + usual radio
                      serial gateway and relay nodes + usual radio + 4.7u and 100u capacitor
                      serial gateway and relay nodes + nRF24L01+PA+LNA with antenna
                      serial gateway and relay nodes + nRF24L01+PA+LNA with antenna + 4.7u and 100 capacitor
                      serial gateway and relay nodes + usual radio + adapter radio
                      serial gateway and relay nodes + nRF24L01+PA+LNA with antenna + adapter radio
                      i am tired really:( now i think power of gateway is weak.(power of nodes is ok and i test it) but power of serial gate way is with usb from orangepi. this is orangepi one and have one port usb and i use this for serial gateway. i dont know how i see power of usb port! but i think most of error is NACK so gateway can not work well. so i want from you to help for capacitor for input arduino , no input radio. i test all of state input for radio....
                      power of orange pi is 5v 2A.
                      thank you

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                      @Reza

                      You seem to be getting help with the same problem in the other thread, so I'll stop here.

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