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PIR AM312/412/612

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  • NeverDieN Offline
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    Is there an SMD version of the PIR AM312/412/612 (it may have a different number, of course)?

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      Closing the loop on my earlier questions, I finally did some long overdue experiments involving the AM612. It turns out that the 75K and 100K resistors aren't doing much, if anything. They can be replaced with simple shorts. So, in future designs, I'll be eliminating them.

      On the other hand, the 1Megaohm resistor appears to be necessary. If I simply removed it, the PIR no longer did detections. If I put it back, the PIR worked again.

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        At time index 6:20 this guy finds that using the AM312 is a solution to his intermittent problems that he was having with a the more commonplace PIR sensor:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpjfVc-9IrQ

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          Just a quick question about these AM612 sensors.. What is the shortest trigger delay that can be achieved by connecting the SENS pin to ground? The datasheet suggests that by connecting ONTIME to ground a 2.3s "ontime" would be created, but does this also apply to the triggering delay?

          I'm asking as I'm planning on using these sensors to switch on lights at home and obviously would like to have as little delay as possible between the actual detection and output trigger. AM312 seems to have a fixed ~2s delay, but how is it with the more tunable AM612? Maybe @NeverDie has some first hand experience?

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            (A lot of the comments in that video mention MySensors :-) )

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            • C Chacal

              Just a quick question about these AM612 sensors.. What is the shortest trigger delay that can be achieved by connecting the SENS pin to ground? The datasheet suggests that by connecting ONTIME to ground a 2.3s "ontime" would be created, but does this also apply to the triggering delay?

              I'm asking as I'm planning on using these sensors to switch on lights at home and obviously would like to have as little delay as possible between the actual detection and output trigger. AM312 seems to have a fixed ~2s delay, but how is it with the more tunable AM612? Maybe @NeverDie has some first hand experience?

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              @chacal said in PIR AM312/412/612:

              I'm asking as I'm planning on using these sensors to switch on lights at home and obviously would like to have as little delay as possible between the actual detection and output trigger. AM312 seems to have a fixed ~2s delay, but how is it with the more tunable AM612? Maybe @NeverDie has some first hand experience?

              The output trigger is triggered as soon as the movement is fixed. A fixed delay of 2 seconds, here we mean that the HIGH level will be on the output trigger for 2 seconds.

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              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                Closing the loop on my earlier questions, I finally did some long overdue experiments involving the AM612. It turns out that the 75K and 100K resistors aren't doing much, if anything. They can be replaced with simple shorts. So, in future designs, I'll be eliminating them.

                On the other hand, the 1Megaohm resistor appears to be necessary. If I simply removed it, the PIR no longer did detections. If I put it back, the PIR worked again.

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                @neverdie hello, can you please provide the final schematic which one worked best for you with minimum no. of components

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                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                  I updated the board, and it's now 23mmx24.5mm:

                  0_1498918284155_am612_top_v405.png

                  0_1498918295516_am612_bottom_v405.png

                  It also has pads for an LED for range testing purposes.

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                  @neverdie is this board without any capacitors working well??I want to test AM612 so I want testing circuit that works well

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                    https://www.openhardware.io/view/420/AM612-Passive-Infrared-Sensor-Breakout-Board#tabs-design

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                    • J Just4 Electronics

                      @neverdie is this board without any capacitors working well??I want to test AM612 so I want testing circuit that works well

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                      @just4-electronics In also using the setup(am612) from NeverDie, and I'm pretty pleased with it. I mapped an extra cap to the setup but that's just for my pease of mind. 😀

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