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W5100 Gateway hangs /freezes after some time.

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  • scalzS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    Yes there is a limit, if i remember well it's 4 connections.

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    • webstorW Offline
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      #4

      4 connections? Wow that isn't much.
      Is the limit because of hardware limitations?
      If the answer is yes, then I could use an raspberry pi with more "power" compared to the arduino.

      Thanx.

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        #5

        yes, w5100 should have 4connec max, and maybe the latest w5200/5500 have more (maybe 8?).
        Plus, i think ethernet lib is not async which does not help for handling more connec at same time..

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          #6

          Thanx for your answer.

          That means, if I would use an raspberrypi as a gateway that could support devices?
          I would like to have only 1 gateway for each floor and I plan to have about 20 sensors connected to each gateway .

          Thanx.

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          • webstorW webstor

            Thanx for your answer.

            That means, if I would use an raspberrypi as a gateway that could support devices?
            I would like to have only 1 gateway for each floor and I plan to have about 20 sensors connected to each gateway .

            Thanx.

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            #7

            @webstor said in W5100 Gateway hangs /freezes after some time.:

            Thanx for your answer.

            That means, if I would use an raspberrypi as a gateway that could support devices?
            I would like to have only 1 gateway for each floor and I plan to have about 20 sensors connected to each gateway .

            Thanx.

            Is there any benefit in using one GW for each floor? Imo it s best, to just have one MySensors network covering the entire building. To avoid problems wrt. to RF-coverage it is better to use some of the nodes also as repeater.

            As far as I understood, there is no limitation below 254 about the number of Nodes connected to one GW. Isn't the MAX_CLIENTS-definition targeting towards the maximum number of controllers to make use of the GW?

            Kind regards

            Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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              #8

              yes there is. There is no signal getting through between the ground and the first floor.

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              • webstorW webstor

                yes there is. There is no signal getting through between the ground and the first floor.

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                #9

                OK, that's an argument.
                When starting with MySensors, I had similar problems, but using some caps and nrf+pa+lna-modules helped a lot. Keep in mind, you will also have some receiving problems if the distance on the same floor is to big...

                Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                  Sorry but we are drifting away from the main problem.

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                  • webstorW webstor

                    Thanx for your answer.

                    That means, if I would use an raspberrypi as a gateway that could support devices?
                    I would like to have only 1 gateway for each floor and I plan to have about 20 sensors connected to each gateway .

                    Thanx.

                    Boots33B Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    @webstor Are you confusing controllers with nodes ?

                    comment out the line line

                    #define MY_GATEWAY_MAX_CLIENTS 20
                    
                    

                    and see if it still locks up.

                    Your 20 nodes will still connect ok

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                      Ok.
                      I will try that when I come home from work.

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                        Looks good. I will keep you up to date if the error appears again.

                        Thanx.-

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                          It stopped crashing.
                          But the problems just switched.
                          Only one device is communicating with the Gateway. The other devices aren't working anymore. My Relays and one temp and hum sensor are not communicating any more.

                          And they are 5 meters away from the Gw.

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                          • webstorW webstor

                            It stopped crashing.
                            But the problems just switched.
                            Only one device is communicating with the Gateway. The other devices aren't working anymore. My Relays and one temp and hum sensor are not communicating any more.

                            And they are 5 meters away from the Gw.

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                            @webstor I am pretty sure that will be some other problem.

                            as far as i am aware #define MY_GATEWAY_MAX_CLIENTS is not a setting for the number of nodes connected and is not needed in a standard Ethernet gateway with one controller, the default setting of 1 is all you need. I am running a w5100 gateway and am able to connect to multiple nodes without that line.

                            If you un-comment it do your nodes then connect as per normal again?

                            Maybe you could make a new post about #define MY_GATEWAY_MAX_CLIENTS and see if one of the MySensors devs can give a definite answer.

                            Have you tried fitting a larger capacitor to the nrf power connections. When I updated to v2.1.1 I had two nodes that were usually very stable start to loose connection now and then. I replaced the 4.7uf with a 47uf and now they are working well again.

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                              #16

                              Hi,

                              ok, starts to crash again. I replaced the whole hardware aswell.
                              Yes if I uncomment them, the nodes connect normal.

                              I'm not using v.2.1.1, my nodes and gateways are on v.2.0.0

                              The next step will be to use an esp8266 as gateway instead of the arduino uno.

                              Thanx.

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                                I upgraded to 2.1.1 and I keep testing.

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                                  Ok, running on 2.1.1 and commented out the following lines:

                                  #define MY_GATEWAY_MAX_CLIENTS 20
                                  

                                  and

                                  //#define MY_INCLUSION_BUTTON_FEATURE
                                  

                                  is running now for three days and looks good that it will keep it that way.

                                  thanx guys.

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                                    Hi,
                                    I have the same issue, W5100 gateway freeze, seen my update to MySensor 2.1.1.
                                    I use a static IP otherway it's the same code as @webstor I did removed both line and still gateway freeze (one day max ). Unlike @websor if I reset, gateway doesn't come back. I have to unplug the usb power.

                                    I only have five sensor, with only one battery powered. I used IDE 1.8.2 and AVR 1.6.18. Everything was working well with MySensor 2.0.0, IDE 1.6.9 , AVR 1.6.15. Any idea what could I look at ?

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                                      wrote on last edited by gohan
                                      #20

                                      Try to restore previous versions of avr and mysensors one at a time and see if you see any changes. Did you check how much free memory it reports after you compiled?

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                                        #21

                                        when you say freezes: Do you mean it hangs totally, which means it isn't pingable @ all?
                                        Or just won't accept connections from the sensors?

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                                          Thank for the hint, I was able to invested the issue more. Here the result:

                                          @gohan

                                          Sketch uses 19560 bytes (60%) of program storage space. Maximum is 32256 bytes.
                                          Global variables use 981 bytes (47%) of dynamic memory, leaving 1067 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2048 bytes.
                                          

                                          @webstor No it's pingable but their some timeout.

                                          Request timeout for icmp_seq 115
                                          Request timeout for icmp_seq 116
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=117 ttl=128 time=0.693 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=118 ttl=128 time=0.694 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=119 ttl=128 time=0.656 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=120 ttl=128 time=3.135 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=121 ttl=128 time=0.641 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=122 ttl=128 time=0.618 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=123 ttl=128 time=0.861 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=124 ttl=128 time=3.536 ms
                                          Request timeout for icmp_seq 125
                                          Request timeout for icmp_seq 126
                                          Request timeout for icmp_seq 127
                                          Request timeout for icmp_seq 128
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=129 ttl=128 time=0.494 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=130 ttl=128 time=0.563 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=131 ttl=128 time=0.622 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=132 ttl=128 time=0.643 ms
                                          Request timeout for icmp_seq 133
                                          Request timeout for icmp_seq 134
                                          Request timeout for icmp_seq 135
                                          Request timeout for icmp_seq 136
                                          Request timeout for icmp_seq 137
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=138 ttl=128 time=0.828 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=139 ttl=128 time=0.570 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=140 ttl=128 time=0.766 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=141 ttl=128 time=0.673 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=142 ttl=128 time=3.274 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=143 ttl=128 time=0.662 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=144 ttl=128 time=0.714 ms
                                          Request timeout for icmp_seq 145
                                          Request timeout for icmp_seq 146
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=147 ttl=128 time=0.663 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=148 ttl=128 time=3.395 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=149 ttl=128 time=0.660 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=150 ttl=128 time=3.527 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=151 ttl=128 time=0.650 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=152 ttl=128 time=0.629 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=153 ttl=128 time=0.565 ms
                                          64 bytes from 1.1.0.130: icmp_seq=154 ttl=128 time=0.639 ms
                                          

                                          Same test after reset, GW keep dropping but this time with max of 2 drop per ten ping. Other devices (phone, bridge etc...) can be pinged without timeout and I'm on the same network.

                                          For the communication testing, I'm sending payload to my tv sensor, and I made a video showing the GW status led when he doesn't work:
                                          and
                                          After reset

                                          Look like it's a reset on the first video?

                                          Next test, new sketch with debug on, sending same payload, GW always receive something like:

                                          0;255;3;0;9;Eth: 2;3;1;0;32;10
                                          0;255;3;0;9;TSF:MSG:SEND,0-0-2-2,s=3,c=1,t=32,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:10
                                          

                                          Some time even when payload is received, TV doesn't turn on, also tested with a simple light sensor. GW and TV are in the same room.

                                          So look like GW is dropping some message, I'll try tomorrow to get back to previous AVR, if their no hint.

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