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  • M MLs

    @dpressle

    I do not get Atmel to run with Mysbootloader 8MHz.
    Seems like it does not use the internal clock
    Also tried to put your text into the board.txt file without any difference.
    But if I use the bottloader ATmega328 on a breadboard (8 MHz internal clock it work.

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    wrote on last edited by
    #28

    @MLs as i said, i can only try to help if you get me more information about your environment and pictures and then i can compare it to mine.

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    • dpressleD dpressle

      @MLs as i said, i can only try to help if you get me more information about your environment and pictures and then i can compare it to mine.

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      wrote on last edited by MLs
      #29

      @dpressle

      0_1492986735738_Mysbootloader.png

      ##############################################################
      
      MYSBL13.name=ATmega328 with MYSBootloader
      
      MYSBL13.upload.tool=avrdude
      MYSBL13.upload.protocol=arduino
      
      MYSBL13.bootloader.tool=avrdude
      MYSBL13.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
      MYSBL13.bootloader.lock_bits=0x0F
      
      MYSBL13.build.mcu=atmega328p
      MYSBL13.build.board=AVR_PRO
      MYSBL13.build.core=arduino
      MYSBL13.build.variant=standard
      
      ## Arduino with MYSBootloader 1.3pre
      ## -------------------------------------------------
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328=ATmega328 16MHz (XTAL, BOD1V8)
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_size=30720
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_data_size=2048
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.upload.speed=115200
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.bootloader.low_fuses=0xFF
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDA
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x06
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.bootloader.file=MYSBootloader/MYSBL13pre_atmega328_16Mhz.hex
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.build.mcu=atmega328p
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.build.f_cpu=16000000L
      
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328=ATmega328 8MHz (RC, BOD1V8)
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_size=30720
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_data_size=2048
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.upload.speed=38400
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDA
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x06
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.file=MYSBootloader/MYSBL13pre_atmega328_8Mhz.hex
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.build.mcu=atmega328p
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.build.f_cpu=8000000L
      
      ############# DO NOT WORK INTERNAL CLOCK #####################
      
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328=ATmega328 8MHz internal clock (RC, BOD1V8)
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.upload.maximum_size=30720
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.upload.maximum_data_size=2048
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.upload.speed=38400
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.upload.tool=arduino:avrdude
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.upload.protocol=arduino
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDA
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.bootloader.extended_fuses=0xfe
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.bootloader.file=breadboard/MYSBL13pre_atmega328_8Mhz.hex
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.bootloader.lock_bits=0x0F
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.bootloader.tool=arduino:avrdude
      
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.build.mcu=atmega328p
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.build.f_cpu=8000000L
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.build.core=arduino:arduino
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.build.variant=arduino:standard
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328=ATmega328 1MHz (RC/8, BOD1V8)
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_size=30720
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_data_size=2048
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.upload.speed=9600
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDA
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x06
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.bootloader.file=MYSBootloader/MYSBL13pre_atmega328_1Mhz.hex
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.build.mcu=atmega328p
      MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.build.f_cpu=1000000L
      
      ##############################################################```
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      • M MLs

        @dpressle

        0_1492986735738_Mysbootloader.png

        ##############################################################
        
        MYSBL13.name=ATmega328 with MYSBootloader
        
        MYSBL13.upload.tool=avrdude
        MYSBL13.upload.protocol=arduino
        
        MYSBL13.bootloader.tool=avrdude
        MYSBL13.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
        MYSBL13.bootloader.lock_bits=0x0F
        
        MYSBL13.build.mcu=atmega328p
        MYSBL13.build.board=AVR_PRO
        MYSBL13.build.core=arduino
        MYSBL13.build.variant=standard
        
        ## Arduino with MYSBootloader 1.3pre
        ## -------------------------------------------------
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328=ATmega328 16MHz (XTAL, BOD1V8)
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_size=30720
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_data_size=2048
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.upload.speed=115200
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.bootloader.low_fuses=0xFF
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDA
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x06
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.bootloader.file=MYSBootloader/MYSBL13pre_atmega328_16Mhz.hex
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.build.mcu=atmega328p
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.16MHzatmega328.build.f_cpu=16000000L
        
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328=ATmega328 8MHz (RC, BOD1V8)
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_size=30720
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_data_size=2048
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.upload.speed=38400
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDA
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x06
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.bootloader.file=MYSBootloader/MYSBL13pre_atmega328_8Mhz.hex
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.build.mcu=atmega328p
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzatmega328.build.f_cpu=8000000L
        
        ############# DO NOT WORK INTERNAL CLOCK #####################
        
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328=ATmega328 8MHz internal clock (RC, BOD1V8)
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.upload.maximum_size=30720
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.upload.maximum_data_size=2048
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.upload.speed=38400
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.upload.tool=arduino:avrdude
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.upload.protocol=arduino
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDA
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.bootloader.extended_fuses=0xfe
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.bootloader.file=breadboard/MYSBL13pre_atmega328_8Mhz.hex
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.bootloader.lock_bits=0x0F
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.bootloader.tool=arduino:avrdude
        
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.build.mcu=atmega328p
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.build.f_cpu=8000000L
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.build.core=arduino:arduino
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.8MHzinternalclockatmega328.build.variant=arduino:standard
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328=ATmega328 1MHz (RC/8, BOD1V8)
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_size=30720
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.upload.maximum_data_size=2048
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.upload.speed=9600
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDA
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x06
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.bootloader.file=MYSBootloader/MYSBL13pre_atmega328_1Mhz.hex
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.build.mcu=atmega328p
        MYSBL13.menu.cpu.1MHzatmega328.build.f_cpu=1000000L
        
        ##############################################################```
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        dpressle
        wrote on last edited by
        #30

        @MLs try to first upload the burning sketch to the nano (even if its already uploaded) and then burn the bootloader.
        What set up do you have, how the nano is connected to the atmega?
        What error do you get when bootloader burn fails?

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        • dpressleD dpressle

          @MLs try to first upload the burning sketch to the nano (even if its already uploaded) and then burn the bootloader.
          What set up do you have, how the nano is connected to the atmega?
          What error do you get when bootloader burn fails?

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          MLs
          wrote on last edited by MLs
          #31

          @dpressle

          The problem is not to burn bootloader. The problem I think is that the Mysbootloader does not use internal clock.

          Therefore, I asked you how to know how a bootloader uses an external clock or internal clock.
          And because you had a bootloader for OTA and internal clock, 8MHz I wanted you to send it to me.

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          • M MLs

            @dpressle

            The problem is not to burn bootloader. The problem I think is that the Mysbootloader does not use internal clock.

            Therefore, I asked you how to know how a bootloader uses an external clock or internal clock.
            And because you had a bootloader for OTA and internal clock, 8MHz I wanted you to send it to me.

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            dpressle
            wrote on last edited by
            #32

            @MLs I am completely lost here, you said "I do not get Atmel to run with Mysbootloader 8MHz." and now you are asking "how to know how a bootloader uses an external clock or internal clock" how can you say its not working and then ask me how to know that its working?

            To conclude this, if you successfully burn the 8Mhz Mysbootloader and the board is working then it is working with 8Mhz it cannot be working on 16Mhz because there is no external osc, its not 1Mhz because of the fuses etc.

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            • dpressleD dpressle

              @MLs I am completely lost here, you said "I do not get Atmel to run with Mysbootloader 8MHz." and now you are asking "how to know how a bootloader uses an external clock or internal clock" how can you say its not working and then ask me how to know that its working?

              To conclude this, if you successfully burn the 8Mhz Mysbootloader and the board is working then it is working with 8Mhz it cannot be working on 16Mhz because there is no external osc, its not 1Mhz because of the fuses etc.

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              MLs
              wrote on last edited by MLs
              #33

              @dpressle

              @MLs said in Another simple (No SMT) relay actuator:

              @dpressle

              Feeling a bit confused how do you know that a bootloader uses the internal clock?
              Because I used another bootloader after installing your card, I did not get the Atmega circuit to run. But if I used this bootloader, I started the Atmega circuit and everything worked.

              Https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3018/tutorial-how-to-burn-1mhz-8mhz-bootloader-using-arduino-ide-1-6-5-r5

              But what makes the internal clock in used?
              I use a UNO when I'm burning bootloader and do not know if you can change fuses and clock option.

              If you use a bootloader that uses an external clock, you will not get the Atmega circuit to run. If I understand everything right.

              No if I'm burning 8MHz Mysbootloader, the Atmega circuit does not start.

              But instead, I use this bootloader (ATmega328 on a 8 MHz internal clock) and I get the Atmega circuit to run, but without OTA.

              Https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3018/tutorial-how-to-burn-1mhz-8mhz-bootloader-using-arduino-ide-1-6-5-r5

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                @dpressle

                @MLs said in Another simple (No SMT) relay actuator:

                @dpressle

                Feeling a bit confused how do you know that a bootloader uses the internal clock?
                Because I used another bootloader after installing your card, I did not get the Atmega circuit to run. But if I used this bootloader, I started the Atmega circuit and everything worked.

                Https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3018/tutorial-how-to-burn-1mhz-8mhz-bootloader-using-arduino-ide-1-6-5-r5

                But what makes the internal clock in used?
                I use a UNO when I'm burning bootloader and do not know if you can change fuses and clock option.

                If you use a bootloader that uses an external clock, you will not get the Atmega circuit to run. If I understand everything right.

                No if I'm burning 8MHz Mysbootloader, the Atmega circuit does not start.

                But instead, I use this bootloader (ATmega328 on a 8 MHz internal clock) and I get the Atmega circuit to run, but without OTA.

                Https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3018/tutorial-how-to-burn-1mhz-8mhz-bootloader-using-arduino-ide-1-6-5-r5

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                #34

                @MLs said in Another simple (No SMT) relay actuator:

                @dpressle

                @MLs said in Another simple (No SMT) relay actuator:

                @dpressle

                Feeling a bit confused how do you know that a bootloader uses the internal clock?
                Because I used another bootloader after installing your card, I did not get the Atmega circuit to run. But if I used this bootloader, I started the Atmega circuit and everything worked.

                Https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3018/tutorial-how-to-burn-1mhz-8mhz-bootloader-using-arduino-ide-1-6-5-r5

                But what makes the internal clock in used?
                I use a UNO when I'm burning bootloader and do not know if you can change fuses and clock option.

                If you use a bootloader that uses an external clock, you will not get the Atmega circuit to run. If I understand everything right.

                No if I'm burning 8MHz Mysbootloader, the Atmega circuit does not start.

                But instead, I use this bootloader (ATmega328 on a 8 MHz internal clock) and I get the Atmega circuit to run, but without OTA.

                Https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3018/tutorial-how-to-burn-1mhz-8mhz-bootloader-using-arduino-ide-1-6-5-r5

                Therefore, I asked you how to know how a bootloader uses an external clock or internal clock.

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                • M MLs

                  @dpressle

                  @MLs said in Another simple (No SMT) relay actuator:

                  @dpressle

                  Feeling a bit confused how do you know that a bootloader uses the internal clock?
                  Because I used another bootloader after installing your card, I did not get the Atmega circuit to run. But if I used this bootloader, I started the Atmega circuit and everything worked.

                  Https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3018/tutorial-how-to-burn-1mhz-8mhz-bootloader-using-arduino-ide-1-6-5-r5

                  But what makes the internal clock in used?
                  I use a UNO when I'm burning bootloader and do not know if you can change fuses and clock option.

                  If you use a bootloader that uses an external clock, you will not get the Atmega circuit to run. If I understand everything right.

                  No if I'm burning 8MHz Mysbootloader, the Atmega circuit does not start.

                  But instead, I use this bootloader (ATmega328 on a 8 MHz internal clock) and I get the Atmega circuit to run, but without OTA.

                  Https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3018/tutorial-how-to-burn-1mhz-8mhz-bootloader-using-arduino-ide-1-6-5-r5

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #35

                  @MLs You said before "The problem is not to burn bootloader."
                  and now you are saying "No if I'm burning 8MHz Mysbootloader, the Atmega circuit does not start."

                  I am asking again, are you able to successfully burn and run Mysbootloader 8Mhz or not?

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                    @MLs You said before "The problem is not to burn bootloader."
                    and now you are saying "No if I'm burning 8MHz Mysbootloader, the Atmega circuit does not start."

                    I am asking again, are you able to successfully burn and run Mysbootloader 8Mhz or not?

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #36

                    @dpressle

                    I can burn Mysbootloader yes.
                    But the Atmega circuit does not start.
                    The problem I think is that Mysbootloader does not use the internal clock

                    And because you said you had a bootloader for OTA and internal clock, 8MHz I wanted you to send it to me.

                    Then there would have been no problem, I think.

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                    • M MLs

                      @dpressle

                      I can burn Mysbootloader yes.
                      But the Atmega circuit does not start.
                      The problem I think is that Mysbootloader does not use the internal clock

                      And because you said you had a bootloader for OTA and internal clock, 8MHz I wanted you to send it to me.

                      Then there would have been no problem, I think.

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                      dpressle
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #37

                      @MLs i use what you use, Mysbotloader 1.3pre, as i said in one of the first messages, you dont need me to send it to you you can (and did) download it from here.

                      This is why i think you are doing something wrong or have wrong settings.

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                      • dpressleD dpressle

                        @MLs i use what you use, Mysbotloader 1.3pre, as i said in one of the first messages, you dont need me to send it to you you can (and did) download it from here.

                        This is why i think you are doing something wrong or have wrong settings.

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                        #38

                        @dpressle

                        And my settings are seen in previous posts.
                        But this does not lead to anything so I finish this now.

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #39

                          Is this setup to take a maximum 2 amp load? Plenty for a lighting circuit, just curious in case someone tries to use it on a switched outlet circuit etc.

                          J1 is power feed and J2 are the three switched outputs right with the wall switch connected using D5 - D6 - D7 right?

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                            Is this setup to take a maximum 2 amp load? Plenty for a lighting circuit, just curious in case someone tries to use it on a switched outlet circuit etc.

                            J1 is power feed and J2 are the three switched outputs right with the wall switch connected using D5 - D6 - D7 right?

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                            dpressle
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                            #40

                            @Shaun-Storbakken It was designed with the idea of controlling 3 different loads of up to 2 Amp each, lightning, switches etc.
                            The D-5,6,7 are for manual switching and they will (if you use my code) control the 3 relays respectively, J1 is power input 110-220V, please note that you should pay attention to the polarity and connect line wire to the right of J1 (otherwise you will end up switching natural to the load), J2 is AC output where each one is different relay, so you have 3 X 110-220V outputs of max 2 A each.

                            I hope it was helpful, please let me know if you need further help.

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                              dpressle
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                              #41

                              Small update, i connected touch switches to the board instead of mechanical switches.
                              where i live we are using gwiss switches and when the board is in the box there is not much room for mechanical switches as they are too deep, so i took some blanks that are used to cover unused switch hols and added touch switch to it, see the pictures below:
                              0_1494227496097_1.jpg
                              0_1494227511920_2.jpg
                              0_1494227524554_3.jpg
                              0_1494227531306_4.jpg

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                              • dpressleD dpressle

                                Small update, i connected touch switches to the board instead of mechanical switches.
                                where i live we are using gwiss switches and when the board is in the box there is not much room for mechanical switches as they are too deep, so i took some blanks that are used to cover unused switch hols and added touch switch to it, see the pictures below:
                                0_1494227496097_1.jpg
                                0_1494227511920_2.jpg
                                0_1494227524554_3.jpg
                                0_1494227531306_4.jpg

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                                breimann
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                                #42

                                @dpressle Nice job!

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