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  • pansenP Offline
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    I think you might have left out the LM2596 since the Nano linear regulator should be able to cope with 12V.

    Orange Pi Plus 2e connected to nrf24 PA via SPI running git-development MySensors gateway, OpenHAB2, mosquitto and MySQL persistence.

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      Many say it's better don't push those regulators to the limit if you are unsure about the quality 😁

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      • pansenP pansen

        I think you might have left out the LM2596 since the Nano linear regulator should be able to cope with 12V.

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        @pansen I've burned out a couple nano's and pro mini's by supplying what was supposedly 12v from a wall wart.

        So I would advise using a linear voltage regulator

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          @micah @gohan Yeah I could imagine nasty spikes from a cheap power supply can fry the regulator. I still find an LM2596 overpowered for this. At least take a 7805 :P

          Orange Pi Plus 2e connected to nrf24 PA via SPI running git-development MySensors gateway, OpenHAB2, mosquitto and MySQL persistence.

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            for 0.65€ a piece you don't go broke if you buy some LM2596 :)

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              Yeah I usually use some 78xx variant

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              • pansenP pansen

                @micah @gohan Yeah I could imagine nasty spikes from a cheap power supply can fry the regulator. I still find an LM2596 overpowered for this. At least take a 7805 :P

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                @pansen Agree and price is one thing but I would prefer a linear regulator for its stability and noise.

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                  but linear regulator would waste a lot of energy/heat, wouldn't it?

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                  • gohanG gohan

                    but linear regulator would waste a lot of energy/heat, wouldn't it?

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                    @gohan maybe, I don't know, I only pretend to be an electrical engineer in my spare time... Lol

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                      well for powering a Nano there should not be that much heat dissipated, being a low power device

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                      • AWIA AWI

                        @pansen Agree and price is one thing but I would prefer a linear regulator for its stability and noise.

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                        @AWI Was about to say that ;) For a hobbyist it doesn't matter that much but switching regulators are quite nasty when it comes to EMI.

                        @gohan: A good rule of thumb is to assume that the voltage difference from input to output of the linear regulator will be converted to heat. So if you have a high current application or a high voltage difference a switching regulator is better. In case of running an Arduino (let's say it consumes 80mA@5V which is quite high) it's negligible: P=U*I=(12-5)*0.08=0.5W which should be dissipated without heatsink easily.

                        edit: ah you just answered yourself ;D

                        Orange Pi Plus 2e connected to nrf24 PA via SPI running git-development MySensors gateway, OpenHAB2, mosquitto and MySQL persistence.

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                        • pansenP pansen

                          @AWI Was about to say that ;) For a hobbyist it doesn't matter that much but switching regulators are quite nasty when it comes to EMI.

                          @gohan: A good rule of thumb is to assume that the voltage difference from input to output of the linear regulator will be converted to heat. So if you have a high current application or a high voltage difference a switching regulator is better. In case of running an Arduino (let's say it consumes 80mA@5V which is quite high) it's negligible: P=U*I=(12-5)*0.08=0.5W which should be dissipated without heatsink easily.

                          edit: ah you just answered yourself ;D

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                          @pansen To add to that... these step down Power converter(boards) are not really suited for low power applications. Their efficiency is likely (much) worse than a linear regulator.

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                            @pansen To add to that... these step down Power converter(boards) are not really suited for low power applications. Their efficiency is likely (much) worse than a linear regulator.

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                            @AWI Ha, I forgot about that...I remembered that you actually need a minimum load on the output of the switching regulator for it to even run. I created a spreadsheet just taking into account the quiescent currents and assuming 70% effciency for the lm2596 (a "bit" optimistic. Datasheet says 80% at 3A load for 12V-5V operation). Quiescent current for the LM2596 is much higher.

                            Considering the mini pro takes about 12-20mA running, I am sure to opt for the 7805 or LM317 from now on ;) (If there is nothing else drawing current). I think nano etc are comparable but the FTDI USB to serial converter probably adds some current that the mini pro is missing.

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                            0_1491471734938_analysis7805.xlsx

                            Orange Pi Plus 2e connected to nrf24 PA via SPI running git-development MySensors gateway, OpenHAB2, mosquitto and MySQL persistence.

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