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  • pansenP pansen

    I think you might have left out the LM2596 since the Nano linear regulator should be able to cope with 12V.

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    @pansen I've burned out a couple nano's and pro mini's by supplying what was supposedly 12v from a wall wart.

    So I would advise using a linear voltage regulator

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      @micah @gohan Yeah I could imagine nasty spikes from a cheap power supply can fry the regulator. I still find an LM2596 overpowered for this. At least take a 7805 :P

      Orange Pi Plus 2e connected to nrf24 PA via SPI running git-development MySensors gateway, OpenHAB2, mosquitto and MySQL persistence.

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        for 0.65€ a piece you don't go broke if you buy some LM2596 :)

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          Yeah I usually use some 78xx variant

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            @micah @gohan Yeah I could imagine nasty spikes from a cheap power supply can fry the regulator. I still find an LM2596 overpowered for this. At least take a 7805 :P

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            @pansen Agree and price is one thing but I would prefer a linear regulator for its stability and noise.

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              but linear regulator would waste a lot of energy/heat, wouldn't it?

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              • gohanG gohan

                but linear regulator would waste a lot of energy/heat, wouldn't it?

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                @gohan maybe, I don't know, I only pretend to be an electrical engineer in my spare time... Lol

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                  well for powering a Nano there should not be that much heat dissipated, being a low power device

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                  • AWIA AWI

                    @pansen Agree and price is one thing but I would prefer a linear regulator for its stability and noise.

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                    @AWI Was about to say that ;) For a hobbyist it doesn't matter that much but switching regulators are quite nasty when it comes to EMI.

                    @gohan: A good rule of thumb is to assume that the voltage difference from input to output of the linear regulator will be converted to heat. So if you have a high current application or a high voltage difference a switching regulator is better. In case of running an Arduino (let's say it consumes 80mA@5V which is quite high) it's negligible: P=U*I=(12-5)*0.08=0.5W which should be dissipated without heatsink easily.

                    edit: ah you just answered yourself ;D

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                    • pansenP pansen

                      @AWI Was about to say that ;) For a hobbyist it doesn't matter that much but switching regulators are quite nasty when it comes to EMI.

                      @gohan: A good rule of thumb is to assume that the voltage difference from input to output of the linear regulator will be converted to heat. So if you have a high current application or a high voltage difference a switching regulator is better. In case of running an Arduino (let's say it consumes 80mA@5V which is quite high) it's negligible: P=U*I=(12-5)*0.08=0.5W which should be dissipated without heatsink easily.

                      edit: ah you just answered yourself ;D

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                      @pansen To add to that... these step down Power converter(boards) are not really suited for low power applications. Their efficiency is likely (much) worse than a linear regulator.

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                      • AWIA AWI

                        @pansen To add to that... these step down Power converter(boards) are not really suited for low power applications. Their efficiency is likely (much) worse than a linear regulator.

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                        @AWI Ha, I forgot about that...I remembered that you actually need a minimum load on the output of the switching regulator for it to even run. I created a spreadsheet just taking into account the quiescent currents and assuming 70% effciency for the lm2596 (a "bit" optimistic. Datasheet says 80% at 3A load for 12V-5V operation). Quiescent current for the LM2596 is much higher.

                        Considering the mini pro takes about 12-20mA running, I am sure to opt for the 7805 or LM317 from now on ;) (If there is nothing else drawing current). I think nano etc are comparable but the FTDI USB to serial converter probably adds some current that the mini pro is missing.

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                        Orange Pi Plus 2e connected to nrf24 PA via SPI running git-development MySensors gateway, OpenHAB2, mosquitto and MySQL persistence.

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