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💬 Battery powered glass touch switch

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    Nca78
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    wrote on last edited by Nca78
    #12

    Thank you.
    What voltage are you using ? Can you try with 3V or at least 3.3 ?
    And what is the distance between the electrodes and the glass ? Because on the switch I use there are a few mm, it's the thickness of the conductive foam + plastic reflector that you can see in the description in openhardware.io.
    I am not using any Cs capacitor.

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    • Nca78N Nca78

      Thank you.
      What voltage are you using ? Can you try with 3V or at least 3.3 ?
      And what is the distance between the electrodes and the glass ? Because on the switch I use there are a few mm, it's the thickness of the conductive foam + plastic reflector that you can see in the description in openhardware.io.
      I am not using any Cs capacitor.

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      Baoshi Zhu
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      @Nca78 Down to 3V is fine. I've tried a 2025 coin cell. From the touch pad up, I have led diffuser (1.6mm), gap (0.8mm), 3mm glass
      The chip marking reads TTP224N-BSB

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        Thank you again, looks like it should work in theory as I have similar distance than you between electrode and glass, and bigger pads.
        I'll try to replace the TTP224 IC on my test board, maybe it's defective/damaged during soldering. I have the same markings than you on the ICs I bought.

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        • Nca78N Nca78

          Thank you again, looks like it should work in theory as I have similar distance than you between electrode and glass, and bigger pads.
          I'll try to replace the TTP224 IC on my test board, maybe it's defective/damaged during soldering. I have the same markings than you on the ICs I bought.

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          @Nca78 , Any update?

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            @Nca78 , Any update?

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            @vikasjee said in 💬 Battery powered glass touch switch:

            @Nca78 , Any update?

            Not yet unfortunately, but it won't be long before I can restart seriously on MySensors, kids will go back to school and I will have more free time :D

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              @Nca78 It is common TTP224 module. 0_1500730717628_IMG_6525.JPG
              0_1500730729490_IMG_6526.JPG
              Please ignore the bottom pad as I'm testing conductive foam on that.
              Top 3 pads works with Cs removed

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              #17

              @Baoshi-Zhu, @Nca78 , What are the red and black wires under the top pad for? Have you soldered them onto the TTP module touch pads or to the led output?

              Have you tried using the other side of the of the touch pads on TTP module since on this side the ICs and other components obstruct the clean surface for the glass panel interface? That side too seems to be sensitive enough...

              Also, You seem to have scraped the touch pads and tinned them? Any specific gains?

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                Hello, I updated the board, I will double check tomorrow and order before the end of the week.
                Changes:

                • improved the touch pads, using the restrict layers to have a perfectly constant distance between touch pads and ground plane
                • increased size of ground planes and added as many vias as possible, I hope it will improve touch sensing with a "heavier" ground

                I also turned the radio to the left, not very classy on the PCB but it allows to leave free space with no traces/ground planes on the sides of the antenna, which is better for radio performance.

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                  jemish
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                  #19

                  Hello,
                  Any one use CY8CMBR3002 IC in Touch Switch??

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                  • J jemish

                    Hello,
                    Any one use CY8CMBR3002 IC in Touch Switch??

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                    @jemish said in 💬 Battery powered glass touch switch:

                    Hello,
                    Any one use CY8CMBR3002 IC in Touch Switch??

                    I have ordered some, not sure if I'll use them or not.

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                      @Nca78 Do you tested this board, if yes, did it work? And which CS capacitors did you use?

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