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  • NeverDieN Offline
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    NeverDie
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    wrote on last edited by
    #1827

    I agree with Jokgi, but nonetheless for anyone interested in the Black Magic Probe alternative, here's an article on how to make a BMP from a $2 Blue Pill board:
    https://medium.com/@paramaggarwal/converting-an-stm32f103-board-to-a-black-magic-probe-c013cf2cc38c

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      #1828

      i use $10 replica Jlink from aliexpress works ok with the latest firmware without an issue. i use it just to flash bootloaders to cortex m0-m4 and nrf52's but it should work for any task that a genuine jlink can do.

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        Jon Raymond
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        #1829

        There also is an "Education" version of the Jlink for $20 if you want an official one with access to nRF Command Line Tools.

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        • J Jon Raymond

          There also is an "Education" version of the Jlink for $20 if you want an official one with access to nRF Command Line Tools.

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          Jokgi
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          #1830

          @Jon-Raymond Correct. It is a nice product for the price and the intended user. As Jon mentioned, you can use the command line tools as well as nRFconnect and also has direct hooks into the Segger Embedded Studio which is a fully functional IDE / compiler/ Debugger and is free when used with Nordic Semi devices.
          Plus there is no license conflict as there is when using one of these cheap overseas j-link knock offs. (Which could "break / brick" anytime doing a "official" Segger update on these clones.)

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          • orhanyorO orhanyor

            i use $10 replica Jlink from aliexpress works ok with the latest firmware without an issue. i use it just to flash bootloaders to cortex m0-m4 and nrf52's but it should work for any task that a genuine jlink can do.

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            Calvin Khung
            wrote on last edited by
            #1831

            @orhanyor good to hear! i ordered that as well since just to try it out in hope that it would work. now that you've said that, maybe i shouldn't worry too much then.

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            • Calvin KhungC Calvin Khung

              @orhanyor good to hear! i ordered that as well since just to try it out in hope that it would work. now that you've said that, maybe i shouldn't worry too much then.

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              orhanyor
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              #1832

              @Calvin-Khung Well im actually surprised that it still works because people are reporting they might stop working after a firmware update so you might wanna hold back on that other than that it works surprisingly well. i bought another as my back up plan which im expecting it in these days. its abit different than the one i have. this one is much cheaper and looks like jlink edu mini rather than a normal j link with a black box.. i ll see if it works when i receive it, here it is.
              https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32669702891.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d4Fx7g9

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                #1833

                i just received this little thing, tested it with atmel studio just to flash some M4 boards and it worked nicely. i wanted to update its firmware via jlink(playing with fire) but it didnt let me saying its up to date so its all ok i guess. it only has 4 pins 3v, gnd, swdio, swclk. for $2.50 in total with shipping its a steal :)
                IMG_3313.jpg

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                • orhanyorO orhanyor

                  i just received this little thing, tested it with atmel studio just to flash some M4 boards and it worked nicely. i wanted to update its firmware via jlink(playing with fire) but it didnt let me saying its up to date so its all ok i guess. it only has 4 pins 3v, gnd, swdio, swclk. for $2.50 in total with shipping its a steal :)
                  IMG_3313.jpg

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                  Jon Raymond
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                  #1834

                  @orhanyor Is it just me or does that micro usb connector look like it should be mounted upside down so it actually nests into the cutout in the board below it? Of course the pinout would be mirrored but it seems like a layout issue that they just ran with.

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                    #1835

                    usb connector is actually nested as far as i can see but it dips 1-2 mm only. weird but it works so its all good :)

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                      • nagelcN Offline
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                        #1837

                        Does anyone have any experience with the minew modules?

                        https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000111771020.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.355350384gOEfO&algo_pvid=0304e5fd-2ee1-4b3c-8324-d7457ed54a60&algo_expid=0304e5fd-2ee1-4b3c-8324-d7457ed54a60-3&btsid=0ab50f4415945033578573060e726c&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

                        I've been using the Fanstel BT832 series with success, but I have been looking at this one to get a few more hand-solderable GPIOs.

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                        • nagelcN nagelc

                          Does anyone have any experience with the minew modules?

                          https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000111771020.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.355350384gOEfO&algo_pvid=0304e5fd-2ee1-4b3c-8324-d7457ed54a60&algo_expid=0304e5fd-2ee1-4b3c-8324-d7457ed54a60-3&btsid=0ab50f4415945033578573060e726c&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

                          I've been using the Fanstel BT832 series with success, but I have been looking at this one to get a few more hand-solderable GPIOs.

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                          #1838

                          I received a few of the Minew MS50SFB modules. They appear to need unlocking similar to the E73 modules. I have tried using instructions as for E73, but no luck so far with either
                          gdb
                          https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9266/guide-nrf5-nrf51-nrf52-for-beginners/54?_=1598203470928
                          acts like it is working, but doesn't really unlock the module.

                          or J-link
                          https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9266/guide-nrf5-nrf51-nrf52-for-beginners/33?_=1598203470928
                          returns error from nrfjprob. In J-Link application can not connect

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                          • nagelcN nagelc

                            I received a few of the Minew MS50SFB modules. They appear to need unlocking similar to the E73 modules. I have tried using instructions as for E73, but no luck so far with either
                            gdb
                            https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9266/guide-nrf5-nrf51-nrf52-for-beginners/54?_=1598203470928
                            acts like it is working, but doesn't really unlock the module.

                            or J-link
                            https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9266/guide-nrf5-nrf51-nrf52-for-beginners/33?_=1598203470928
                            returns error from nrfjprob. In J-Link application can not connect

                            NeverDieN Offline
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                            NeverDie
                            Hero Member
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1839

                            @nagelc If you do manage to get it working, I'd be curious as to what kind of range you get out of it a compared to other modules. The antenna pattern looks a bit different.

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                            • nagelcN nagelc

                              I received a few of the Minew MS50SFB modules. They appear to need unlocking similar to the E73 modules. I have tried using instructions as for E73, but no luck so far with either
                              gdb
                              https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9266/guide-nrf5-nrf51-nrf52-for-beginners/54?_=1598203470928
                              acts like it is working, but doesn't really unlock the module.

                              or J-link
                              https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9266/guide-nrf5-nrf51-nrf52-for-beginners/33?_=1598203470928
                              returns error from nrfjprob. In J-Link application can not connect

                              NeverDieN Offline
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                              NeverDie
                              Hero Member
                              wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                              #1840

                              @nagelc It's a shot in the dark, but maybe you want to check the schematic for any differences with other modules that you've previously programmed successfully. Either it's a dud, or it must be that.

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                              • nagelcN nagelc

                                I received a few of the Minew MS50SFB modules. They appear to need unlocking similar to the E73 modules. I have tried using instructions as for E73, but no luck so far with either
                                gdb
                                https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9266/guide-nrf5-nrf51-nrf52-for-beginners/54?_=1598203470928
                                acts like it is working, but doesn't really unlock the module.

                                or J-link
                                https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9266/guide-nrf5-nrf51-nrf52-for-beginners/33?_=1598203470928
                                returns error from nrfjprob. In J-Link application can not connect

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                                Nca78
                                Hardware Contributor
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1841

                                @nagelc said in nRF5 action!:

                                I received a few of the Minew MS50SFB modules. They appear to need unlocking similar to the E73 modules. I have tried using instructions as for E73, but no luck so far with either
                                gdb
                                https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9266/guide-nrf5-nrf51-nrf52-for-beginners/54?_=1598203470928
                                acts like it is working, but doesn't really unlock the module.

                                or J-link
                                https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9266/guide-nrf5-nrf51-nrf52-for-beginners/33?_=1598203470928
                                returns error from nrfjprob. In J-Link application can not connect

                                Did you try with nRFgo Studio ? I use that with NRF52 DK and it's simple. But I've not tried those modules though.

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                                • Nca78N Nca78

                                  @nagelc said in nRF5 action!:

                                  I received a few of the Minew MS50SFB modules. They appear to need unlocking similar to the E73 modules. I have tried using instructions as for E73, but no luck so far with either
                                  gdb
                                  https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9266/guide-nrf5-nrf51-nrf52-for-beginners/54?_=1598203470928
                                  acts like it is working, but doesn't really unlock the module.

                                  or J-link
                                  https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/9266/guide-nrf5-nrf51-nrf52-for-beginners/33?_=1598203470928
                                  returns error from nrfjprob. In J-Link application can not connect

                                  Did you try with nRFgo Studio ? I use that with NRF52 DK and it's simple. But I've not tried those modules though.

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                                  Jokgi
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1842

                                  @Nca78 nRFgo Studio has been put to sleep. nRFgo studio does not have support for the newer Nordic devices. nRFconnect for Desktop has taken its place. I suggest when using the nRF52-DK (or any nRF52 based DK) that this newer utility be used.

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                                  • JokgiJ Jokgi

                                    @Nca78 nRFgo Studio has been put to sleep. nRFgo studio does not have support for the newer Nordic devices. nRFconnect for Desktop has taken its place. I suggest when using the nRF52-DK (or any nRF52 based DK) that this newer utility be used.

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                                    Nca78
                                    Hardware Contributor
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1843

                                    @Jokgi said in nRF5 action!:

                                    @Nca78 nRFgo Studio has been put to sleep. nRFgo studio does not have support for the newer Nordic devices. nRFconnect for Desktop has taken its place. I suggest when using the nRF52-DK (or any nRF52 based DK) that this newer utility be used.

                                    Thank you I updated !

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                                    • Nca78N Nca78

                                      @Jokgi said in nRF5 action!:

                                      @Nca78 nRFgo Studio has been put to sleep. nRFgo studio does not have support for the newer Nordic devices. nRFconnect for Desktop has taken its place. I suggest when using the nRF52-DK (or any nRF52 based DK) that this newer utility be used.

                                      Thank you I updated !

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                                      Jokgi
                                      wrote on last edited by Jokgi
                                      #1844

                                      @Nca78 I suggest downloading the "command line tools" as well.
                                      https://www.nordicsemi.com/Software-and-tools/Development-Tools/nRF-Command-Line-Tools.

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                                      • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                        @nagelc If you do manage to get it working, I'd be curious as to what kind of range you get out of it a compared to other modules. The antenna pattern looks a bit different.

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                                        nagelc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1845

                                        @NeverDie
                                        It isn't very scientific, but I think the range is roughly equivalent to a BT832. I can reach my gateway from everywhere in my house except the far corner of the basement, same as the BT. That corner is behind a chimney an lots of plumbing -- RFM69 territory. Maybe the BT832F would work there. Haven't tried those.
                                        After fixing a missing trace on my dev board (my fault, not Oshpark's), and updating my J-link and bmp software. I am able to program these.

                                        I popped the shield off of one just to confirm I ordered the right version. The part numbering vs processor is not very clear on Aliexpress. No surprises there.
                                        MS50SFB noShield.jpg

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                                          NeverDie
                                          Hero Member
                                          wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                          #1846

                                          A Version 2 of the micro:bit is due to be released this month: https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/bus-systems-sbcs/microbit-version-2-educational-computer-now-runs-ai-gets-loudspeaker-2020-10/

                                          It's based around the 64Mhz, 128Kbyte RAM nRF52833: https://www.nordicsemi.com/Products/Low-power-short-range-wireless/nRF52833

                                          Version 2 will include a speaker and a microphone and will apparently make use of bluetooth for wireless communication. The EW article also says it will support a "microbit-radio protocol". Also, the EW article says that Javascript will run on it.

                                          By itself it's not that interesting, but for someone looking to get started, it's another way in.

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