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  • rmtuckerR rmtucker

    @NeverDie
    What are you using at the other end,just a standard nrf24 or the amplified version.
    I switched to rfm69 some time ago because of poor range/coverage.
    But i am astounded with the nrf51 and wemos/nrf24 pa setup.
    Maybe it is the tin foil wrapping Lol.😃

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    @rmtucker
    I did eventually manage to stop it by putting it in the fridge.
    My other half has never laughed so much.😃😃

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    • rmtuckerR rmtucker

      @rmtucker
      I did eventually manage to stop it by putting it in the fridge.
      My other half has never laughed so much.😃😃

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      NeverDie
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      @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

      @rmtucker
      I did eventually manage to stop it by putting it in the fridge.
      My other half has never laughed so much.😃😃

      If you switch to Lithium batteries (I'm partial to the Energizer AA's because they have good datasheets), your node should still work even in the freezer.

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      • rmtuckerR rmtucker

        @NeverDie
        What are you using at the other end,just a standard nrf24 or the amplified version.
        I switched to rfm69 some time ago because of poor range/coverage.
        But i am astounded with the nrf51 and wemos/nrf24 pa setup.
        Maybe it is the tin foil wrapping Lol.😃

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        NeverDie
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        @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

        @NeverDie
        What are you using at the other end,just a standard nrf24 or the amplified version.
        I switched to rfm69 some time ago because of poor range/coverage.
        But i am astounded with the nrf51 and wemos/nrf24 pa setup.
        Maybe it is the tin foil wrapping Lol.😃

        I did it both ways when with datarates of 250kbps and 1Mbps, but when I upgraded the nRF52832 to 2Mbps, the connection stopped working. For expediency, I switched to an nRF52 DK as the gateway, rather than debug the nRF24 just then. Eventually I'll circle back and try to figure out what the problem is/was with the 2Mbps on the nRF24's. So, the nRF52 DK is what I'm presently using.

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        • rmtuckerR rmtucker

          @rmtucker
          I did eventually manage to stop it by putting it in the fridge.
          My other half has never laughed so much.😃😃

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          @rmtucker
          On the supercapacitor subject.
          Nick Gammon used a 0.47uf 5.5v capacitor and you have been trying a 10uf 2.7v.
          So i was going to try a 4uf 5.5v super cap and an mcp1700-33 to power the nrf at 3.3v.
          I was going to charge the supercap initially with an adjustable dc-dc converter set to 5v while experimenting,anyone see a problem?

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          • rmtuckerR rmtucker

            @rmtucker
            On the supercapacitor subject.
            Nick Gammon used a 0.47uf 5.5v capacitor and you have been trying a 10uf 2.7v.
            So i was going to try a 4uf 5.5v super cap and an mcp1700-33 to power the nrf at 3.3v.
            I was going to charge the supercap initially with an adjustable dc-dc converter set to 5v while experimenting,anyone see a problem?

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            NeverDie
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            @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

            @rmtucker
            On the supercapacitor subject.
            Nick Gammon used a 0.47uf 5.5v capacitor and you have been trying a 10uf 2.7v.
            So i was going to try a 4uf 5.5v super cap and an mcp1700-33 to power the nrf at 3.3v.
            I was going to charge the supercap initially with an adjustable dc-dc converter set to 5v while experimenting,anyone see a problem?

            I'm assuming Nick Gammon was using not an Nordic radio but just an atmega chip? I don't think you'll get much runtime on a 0.47uF supercap, nor a 4uF supercap, because of the radio.

            On the plus side, it should charge up almost instantly. :)

            On the other hand, 100uF should be enough to send at least one packet. I haven't tried that low an amount on the nrf52, but I have done it with a 100uF (charged to 2.7v) powering an atmega328p+RFM69 combo.

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            • NeverDieN NeverDie

              @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

              @rmtucker
              On the supercapacitor subject.
              Nick Gammon used a 0.47uf 5.5v capacitor and you have been trying a 10uf 2.7v.
              So i was going to try a 4uf 5.5v super cap and an mcp1700-33 to power the nrf at 3.3v.
              I was going to charge the supercap initially with an adjustable dc-dc converter set to 5v while experimenting,anyone see a problem?

              I'm assuming Nick Gammon was using not an Nordic radio but just an atmega chip? I don't think you'll get much runtime on a 0.47uF supercap, nor a 4uF supercap, because of the radio.

              On the plus side, it should charge up almost instantly. :)

              On the other hand, 100uF should be enough to send at least one packet. I haven't tried that low an amount on the nrf52, but I have done it with a 100uF (charged to 2.7v) powering an atmega328p+RFM69 combo.

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              @NeverDie
              I think he was using an nrf24 just the same as us.
              He was getting 32hours without re-charging and transmitting every 5mins.

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                @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                mcp1700-33

                It appears to be just an LDO. So, you won't get any advantage to charging your capacitor to greater than 3.3v.

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                • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                  @NeverDie
                  I think he was using an nrf24 just the same as us.
                  He was getting 32hours without re-charging and transmitting every 5mins.

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                  @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                  @NeverDie
                  I think he was using an nrf24 just the same as us.
                  He was getting 32hours without re-charging and transmitting every 5mins.

                  Really? Wow. That I'd like to see. I don't see how it's even possible. Do you have a link?

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                  • NeverDieN NeverDie

                    @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                    @NeverDie
                    I think he was using an nrf24 just the same as us.
                    He was getting 32hours without re-charging and transmitting every 5mins.

                    Really? Wow. That I'd like to see. I don't see how it's even possible. Do you have a link?

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                    @NeverDie
                    Nick Gammon experiments

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                    • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                      @rmtucker
                      On the supercapacitor subject.
                      Nick Gammon used a 0.47uf 5.5v capacitor and you have been trying a 10uf 2.7v.
                      So i was going to try a 4uf 5.5v super cap and an mcp1700-33 to power the nrf at 3.3v.
                      I was going to charge the supercap initially with an adjustable dc-dc converter set to 5v while experimenting,anyone see a problem?

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                      @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                      Nick Gammon used a 0.47uf 5.5v capacitor

                      Re-read your link. He used a 0.47F capacitor, not a 0.47uF capacitor. That's a million times difference.

                      0.47F works. I arrived at 10F because it seems to be a sweet spot in the way that supercaps are priced. You can get a lot of Farads for just $2.

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                      • NeverDieN NeverDie

                        @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                        Nick Gammon used a 0.47uf 5.5v capacitor

                        Re-read your link. He used a 0.47F capacitor, not a 0.47uF capacitor. That's a million times difference.

                        0.47F works. I arrived at 10F because it seems to be a sweet spot in the way that supercaps are priced. You can get a lot of Farads for just $2.

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                        @NeverDie
                        My Mistake but his results were impressive don't you think?
                        Anyway i was just going to use 4f because i can get one.
                        How are you charging your Cap?

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                        • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                          @NeverDie
                          My Mistake but his results were impressive don't you think?
                          Anyway i was just going to use 4f because i can get one.
                          How are you charging your Cap?

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                          @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                          How are you charging your Cap?

                          6v mini solar panel run through diode and a 2.7v ldo. That works for me indoors even 15-20 feet away from a window.

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                            @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                            How are you charging your Cap?

                            6v mini solar panel run through diode and a 2.7v ldo. That works for me indoors even 15-20 feet away from a window.

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                            @NeverDie
                            Hmm the only 2.7v ldo i can see are surface mount in the uk.
                            Thats a no no for me.

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                            • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                              @NeverDie
                              Hmm the only 2.7v ldo i can see are surface mount in the uk.
                              Thats a no no for me.

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                              @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                              @NeverDie
                              Hmm the only 2.7v ldo i can see are surface mount in the uk.
                              Thats a no no for me.

                              Yeah, I'm using surface mount, but I solder it on manually the old fashioned way. Not all surface mount are difficult just because they're SMD. Simply avoid the ones with too small a pitch.

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                                @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                @NeverDie
                                Hmm the only 2.7v ldo i can see are surface mount in the uk.
                                Thats a no no for me.

                                Yeah, I'm using surface mount, but I solder it on manually the old fashioned way. Not all surface mount are difficult just because they're SMD. Simply avoid the ones with too small a pitch.

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                                @NeverDie
                                Part number?

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                                • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                                  @NeverDie
                                  Part number?

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                                  @rmtucker said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                  @NeverDie
                                  Part number?

                                  http://datasheet.sii-ic.com/en/voltage_regulator/S1313_E.pdf

                                  https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/sii-semiconductor-corporation/S-1313D27-M5T1U3/1662-2523-1-ND/7228815

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                                    Where is the sleep(...) function defined for the nrf5? I've looked, but I can't seem to find which library it is in. Anyone know?

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                                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                      Where is the sleep(...) function defined for the nrf5? I've looked, but I can't seem to find which library it is in. Anyone know?

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                                      @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                      Where is the sleep(...) function defined for the nrf5? I've looked, but I can't seem to find which library it is in. Anyone know?

                                      It's defined in "hal/architecture/MyHwNRF5.cpp"

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                                        If anybody need cheap NRF52 DK, Arrow has them for ca. $30 with free courier shipping!

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                                          If anybody need cheap NRF52 DK, Arrow has them for ca. $30 with free courier shipping!

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                                          @Toyman said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                          If anybody need cheap NRF52 DK, Arrow has them for ca. $30 with free courier shipping!

                                          10% discount at the moment so 29.48$. Given the price per unit of a nrf52 if you buy in small numbers, it's worth buying it just for the extra chips provided :D

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