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Cant even get my first node working...

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  • sundberg84S sundberg84

    @AndyRoo - Hi!
    It seems like the radio cant be initialised.
    You should re-check all your wirings and power to the radio.

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    AndyRoo
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    @sundberg84 Hi,

    Thanks for your reply, unless the wiring on the website is wrong, then everything is correct, I've tripled checked.

    Could you confirm the wiring for a nano and uno are the same and if what's on the website matches what you are using?

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    • AndyRooA AndyRoo

      @sundberg84 Hi,

      Thanks for your reply, unless the wiring on the website is wrong, then everything is correct, I've tripled checked.

      Could you confirm the wiring for a nano and uno are the same and if what's on the website matches what you are using?

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      @AndyRoo yes. The wiring has been used to build several hundreds of nodes.

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        Try swapping radios between the gateway and node just to make sure radio is not fried. It could be a wiring problem like said before or a power problem.

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        • gohanG gohan

          Try swapping radios between the gateway and node just to make sure radio is not fried. It could be a wiring problem like said before or a power problem.

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          @gohan that has already been tested, see the initial post.

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            royson84
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            Any solution to this? I have the same problem atm. Tried 3 or 4 different nrf24l01+ but with the same failures. I'm suspecting it's related to my sketches or something. Can't wire that many radios wrong, and they are from different vendors. My gateway is an Uno running with an W5100 and latest MySensors dev. Seems to be connecting just fine to both my Vera and when I tried it in Domoticz. The GW debug shows no fails.

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              try with just some example sketches to see if the radios are correctly communicating. Did you put a capacitor on the radio module?

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              • gohanG gohan

                try with just some example sketches to see if the radios are correctly communicating. Did you put a capacitor on the radio module?

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                @gohan I made a serial gateway with an Nano+Nrf24L01+ and hooked it up to my computer. Just to bypass the possibility that my regular gateway have radio problems. But even with that simple setup I get "11 !TSM:INIT:TSP FAIL" from the Nano. I have tried with 4.7, 47 and 100uF on the radio.

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                  I am kind of suspecting the radio modules have issues.

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                  • gohanG gohan

                    I am kind of suspecting the radio modules have issues.

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                    royson84
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                    @gohan ok. Im gonna try with different nrfs tonight. I have 13 from 3 different vendors. Reckon at least a couple of them should work..
                    I have made 3 sensors with Sundberg84 amazing PCB and they have the same issues, which makes me a bit sceptical.

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                      Im banging my head against the wall here. Uninstalled IDE and reinstalled version 1.6.4 and added Mysensors lib from the menus. Uploaded the GatewaySerial to a new Uno with attached radio+cap. No luck.

                      Uninstalled IDE and installed latest version which has Mysensors preinstalled. Same sketch. No luck. Gonna try with yet another radio. But I cant see how the 3 i've already tried could be broken.

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                        gohan
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                        can you post a picture of those radios?

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                        • gohanG gohan

                          can you post a picture of those radios?

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                          royson84
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                          @gohan Sure. I have tried 9 or 10 out of 13 now i think. With different libs and sketches that google found for me.

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                            2_1500328749598_IMG_20170717_235131.jpg 1_1500328749598_IMG_20170717_235309.jpg 0_1500328749598_IMG_20170717_235509.jpg

                            The first and second picture is from a seller called axeprice on ebay. Two different orders with a couple of weeks apart.
                            The third picture is from a swedish shop called m.nu, great shop I might add.

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                              gohan
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                              How much were they? They look quite on the cheap

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                                How much were they? They look quite on the cheap

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                                @gohan http://www.ebay.com/itm/400594940658?rmvSB=true
                                Its the radios linked in mysensors store...

                                https://www.m.nu/breakout-boards/nrf24l01
                                "swedish" one.

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                                  @gohan http://www.ebay.com/itm/400594940658?rmvSB=true
                                  Its the radios linked in mysensors store...

                                  https://www.m.nu/breakout-boards/nrf24l01
                                  "swedish" one.

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                                  @royson84 Where in Sweden are you? Maybe someone near can help you.

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                                    @gohan http://www.ebay.com/itm/400594940658?rmvSB=true
                                    Its the radios linked in mysensors store...

                                    https://www.m.nu/breakout-boards/nrf24l01
                                    "swedish" one.

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                                    @royson84 - do yo have a multimeter and can comfirm there are power to the radio? If you are using the PCB you need to have atleast one jumper connected (as we spoke about - so I suspect that is ok). Could you post a picture of the complete setup?

                                    I live pretty near you (1.5h) in worst case scenario ;)

                                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                      @gohan http://www.ebay.com/itm/400594940658?rmvSB=true
                                      Its the radios linked in mysensors store...

                                      https://www.m.nu/breakout-boards/nrf24l01
                                      "swedish" one.

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                                      gohan
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                                      @royson84 10 modules for 10$ are definitely fake clones I'd say but at least they should power up

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                                      • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                        @royson84 - do yo have a multimeter and can comfirm there are power to the radio? If you are using the PCB you need to have atleast one jumper connected (as we spoke about - so I suspect that is ok). Could you post a picture of the complete setup?

                                        I live pretty near you (1.5h) in worst case scenario ;)

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                                        @sundberg84 I do have a multimeter, but haven't used it in ages so I'm not sure how to honestly. =D

                                        On the PCB I made all the connections by soldering but I have put that aside for now. Figure I must find out what I'm doing wrong with the radios first. Now when I'm trying to make a new serial gateway I've done so both with some soldering and some duponts.

                                        Today, as a bit of a last restore, I'm gonna remove my radio from the ethernet gateway, which doesn't give me any failures in debug, and try the same setup with that. If that doesn't work, well..hehe.. Stuff is gonna break :smile:

                                        I really appreciate all your help and suggestions guys!!

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                                        • R royson84

                                          @sundberg84 I do have a multimeter, but haven't used it in ages so I'm not sure how to honestly. =D

                                          On the PCB I made all the connections by soldering but I have put that aside for now. Figure I must find out what I'm doing wrong with the radios first. Now when I'm trying to make a new serial gateway I've done so both with some soldering and some duponts.

                                          Today, as a bit of a last restore, I'm gonna remove my radio from the ethernet gateway, which doesn't give me any failures in debug, and try the same setup with that. If that doesn't work, well..hehe.. Stuff is gonna break :smile:

                                          I really appreciate all your help and suggestions guys!!

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                                          sundberg84
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                                          @royson84 - take out your mulitimeter and set it to DC (see here for symbol)

                                          Put the black lead to gnd on the radio and the red on positive:
                                          0_1500367572661_v1.JPG

                                          Also make sure the capacitors is aligned right!

                                          If possible post a photo of the hole pcb :)

                                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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