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Why I quit using MySensors for actuators

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  • NeverDieN Offline
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    NeverDie
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    wrote on last edited by NeverDie
    #43

    Were you previously debouncing the button press? Also, is the module on the same electrical circuit as the garage door motor? I wonder whether it's a power/noise isolation issue that comes into play because of the heavy motor.

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    • YveauxY Yveaux

      @Sergio-Rius Can you explain why you send a toggle to the door instead of up or down?
      A toggle message that is received multiple times will move the door in an arbitrary direction...

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      wrote on last edited by
      #44

      @Yveaux I initially have it designed for open/close commands. But I was having too much trouble with sync when messages where lost.
      Now it simply ignores the type of command and relies more on controlling its own state.
      That's the complex part of the sketch.
      But it works as factory default.

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      • NeverDieN NeverDie

        Were you previously debouncing the button press? Also, is the module on the same electrical circuit as the garage door motor? I wonder whether it's a power/noise isolation issue that comes into play because of the heavy motor.

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        Sergio Rius
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        #45

        @NeverDie it doesn't have any physical button. It's always actuated through the controller.
        Also the door motor is on a completely separated circuit. Has its own PSU (ac) and it's independently activated with relays through opto-isolators.
        It cuts motor power when it's not used.

        Don't miss understand, is working very well. I only presented it as an example for an actuator that was giving trouble but that was made to work.

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        • Sergio RiusS Sergio Rius

          @NeverDie it doesn't have any physical button. It's always actuated through the controller.
          Also the door motor is on a completely separated circuit. Has its own PSU (ac) and it's independently activated with relays through opto-isolators.
          It cuts motor power when it's not used.

          Don't miss understand, is working very well. I only presented it as an example for an actuator that was giving trouble but that was made to work.

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          NeverDie
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          wrote on last edited by NeverDie
          #46

          @Sergio-Rius said in Why I quit using MySensors for actuators:

          independently activated with relays through opto-isolators

          If I'm not mistaken, relay contacts can bounce too, just like a button. Well, anyway, just water under the bridge at this point it sounds like.

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          • Sergio RiusS Sergio Rius

            @korvad The sketch is a mess and I'm sure what I'm doing with 4 relays could be made with only two, but the changes I incorporated where basically:

            void loop() {
              refreshStatus();
            
              // Don't do anything else during movement
              if (CurrentStatus == GOINGUP || CurrentStatus == GOINGDOWN) return;
            ...
            

            And in receive:

            void receive(const MyMessage &message) {
              static uint32_t next_cmd = 0;
              switch (message.type) {
              case V_STATUS:
                if (message.sensor == CHILD_ID_TOGGLE) {
            #ifdef _DEBUG
                  DEBUGPLN("*** RECEIVED TOGGLE *************************");
            #endif
                  // Avoid controller command echoes.
                  const uint32_t now = millis();
                  if (PENDING(now, next_cmd)) {
            #ifdef _DEBUG
                    DEBUGPLN("Too much commands in a short while! Ignoring.");
            #endif
                    return;
                  }
                  next_cmd = now + MIN_RX_INTERVAL;
            ...
            
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            wrote on last edited by
            #47

            @Sergio-Rius thx, will try to adapt your sketch to my needs.

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            • NeverDieN NeverDie

              @Sergio-Rius said in Why I quit using MySensors for actuators:

              independently activated with relays through opto-isolators

              If I'm not mistaken, relay contacts can bounce too, just like a button. Well, anyway, just water under the bridge at this point it sounds like.

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              Sergio Rius
              wrote on last edited by
              #48

              @NeverDie As the relays only activate the main motor power supply and controls start&stop and direction, bouncing is not a problem.
              Perhaps you where thinking on an arduino actuating the door mechanism button?

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              • alowhumA Offline
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                alowhum
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                wrote on last edited by
                #49

                @dakipro said in Why I quit using MySensors for actuators:

                I understand the principle, number of sent packets should match number of received ones per node :)
                I thought it was perhaps already implemented on node/gateway level. I guess one could always send Text or some custom label and handle it in controller, but having it integrated in gateway itself would be awesome :)

                wait, what?

                I thought MySensors already implemented this! It doesn't?

                I want to use mysensors to turn a heater on and off. That's serious stuff. I thought MySensors went beyond 433 stuff because if made sure that messages arrived?

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                • alowhumA alowhum

                  @dakipro said in Why I quit using MySensors for actuators:

                  I understand the principle, number of sent packets should match number of received ones per node :)
                  I thought it was perhaps already implemented on node/gateway level. I guess one could always send Text or some custom label and handle it in controller, but having it integrated in gateway itself would be awesome :)

                  wait, what?

                  I thought MySensors already implemented this! It doesn't?

                  I want to use mysensors to turn a heater on and off. That's serious stuff. I thought MySensors went beyond 433 stuff because if made sure that messages arrived?

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                  Nca78
                  Hardware Contributor
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #50

                  @alowhum if you use ACK you know if message arrived or not. MySensors will resend message a few times if it fails (there's a #define for this I think) but not forever. If it's critical you can handle the false when it's returned in your code and resend the message after a little delay, and send yourself a warning/alert in the end if the node is unreachable).

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                  • Nca78N Nca78

                    @alowhum if you use ACK you know if message arrived or not. MySensors will resend message a few times if it fails (there's a #define for this I think) but not forever. If it's critical you can handle the false when it's returned in your code and resend the message after a little delay, and send yourself a warning/alert in the end if the node is unreachable).

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                    #51

                    @nca78 Thanks for the explananation! Do you perhaps know of an example sketch that has good example code for this? I haven't come accross it.

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                    • alowhumA alowhum

                      @nca78 Thanks for the explananation! Do you perhaps know of an example sketch that has good example code for this? I haven't come accross it.

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                      Nca78
                      Hardware Contributor
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                      #52

                      @alowhum I made a test with the scipt of a remote control switch. I will look for it but it's really not some advanced programming :)

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                      • Nca78N Nca78

                        @alowhum I made a test with the scipt of a remote control switch. I will look for it but it's really not some advanced programming :)

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                        alowhum
                        Plugin Developer
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #53

                        @nca78 Well, anything is helpful! Thanks!

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                          #54

                          Hi, I know I'm a little late to this thread. I'm just starting with MySensors and am learning by reading the posts.

                          Currently I am waiting for hardware for my 1st gateway so I am not encumbered by details.

                          I notice in all the reported cases the "problem" node is AC powered, while many of the "good" sensor nodes are battery powered. Could this be significant? It would be interesting if someone with a "problem" actuator node could put a battery operated sensor node in the same area.

                          Just a thought.

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                          • JohnRobJ JohnRob

                            Hi, I know I'm a little late to this thread. I'm just starting with MySensors and am learning by reading the posts.

                            Currently I am waiting for hardware for my 1st gateway so I am not encumbered by details.

                            I notice in all the reported cases the "problem" node is AC powered, while many of the "good" sensor nodes are battery powered. Could this be significant? It would be interesting if someone with a "problem" actuator node could put a battery operated sensor node in the same area.

                            Just a thought.

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                            Nca78
                            Hardware Contributor
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #55

                            @johnrob said in Why I quit using MySensors for actuators:

                            Hi, I know I'm a little late to this thread. I'm just starting with MySensors and am learning by reading the posts.

                            Currently I am waiting for hardware for my 1st gateway so I am not encumbered by details.

                            I notice in all the reported cases the "problem" node is AC powered, while many of the "good" sensor nodes are battery powered. Could this be significant? It would be interesting if someone with a "problem" actuator node could put a battery operated sensor node in the same area.

                            Hello,

                            the problem is an actuator node has to listen to the radio constantly and can't sleep, so it can't last long on batteries...

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