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Which are trustworthy brands for a simple USB wall charger?

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  • gohanG Offline
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    gohan
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    wrote on last edited by
    #23

    battery or wall charger it is a choice that depends on the kind of sensors you want to use :)

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    • Nca78N Offline
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      Nca78
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      #24

      If you didn't you can have a look there too, there are many tests of Ali / Ebay products:
      http://www.lygte-info.dk/info/indexUSB UK.html

      Go back to root of website if you are interested in battery tests, battery chargers or led drivers.

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      • Nca78N Nca78

        If you didn't you can have a look there too, there are many tests of Ali / Ebay products:
        http://www.lygte-info.dk/info/indexUSB UK.html

        Go back to root of website if you are interested in battery tests, battery chargers or led drivers.

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        wrote on last edited by NeverDie
        #25

        @Nca78 said in Which are trustworthy brands for a simple USB wall charger?:

        If you didn't you can have a look there too, there are many tests of Ali / Ebay products:
        http://www.lygte-info.dk/info/indexUSB UK.html

        Go back to root of website if you are interested in battery tests, battery chargers or led drivers.

        Wow! That's extensive. Is there a short-list somewhere for the best of what they tested? I want to jump ahead to the final recommendations and not read every review if I can avoid it.

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        • NeverDieN NeverDie

          @Nca78 said in Which are trustworthy brands for a simple USB wall charger?:

          If you didn't you can have a look there too, there are many tests of Ali / Ebay products:
          http://www.lygte-info.dk/info/indexUSB UK.html

          Go back to root of website if you are interested in battery tests, battery chargers or led drivers.

          Wow! That's extensive. Is there a short-list somewhere for the best of what they tested? I want to jump ahead to the final recommendations and not read every review if I can avoid it.

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          #26

          Aha! Nevermind, I think I found it: http://lygte-info.dk/info/ChargerIndex UK.html

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          • NeverDieN NeverDie

            Aha! Nevermind, I think I found it: http://lygte-info.dk/info/ChargerIndex UK.html

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            NeverDie
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            #27

            I like how he tests them for noise level as well. Might as well pick one with low noise if possible.

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            • NeverDieN Offline
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              #28

              I think I'm starting to warm-up to this one:
              https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NTONPOWER-US-Electrical-Plug-and-Socket-Wall-Mounted-3-Outlet-3-USB-Charging-Port-15W-with/32757740342.html?spm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.263.PgEo7J

              It's made by the same company that got a good review in the above list (although, maybe not, because Orico appears to have an identical one). However, the intangibles in its favor are:

              1. I get more wall plugs, not fewer for having plugged it in, and
              2. It has a minimalist shelf meant to hold a phone for charging, but it might just as well hold a sensor node or gateway, which would be convenient.
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              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                I think I'm starting to warm-up to this one:
                https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NTONPOWER-US-Electrical-Plug-and-Socket-Wall-Mounted-3-Outlet-3-USB-Charging-Port-15W-with/32757740342.html?spm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.263.PgEo7J

                It's made by the same company that got a good review in the above list (although, maybe not, because Orico appears to have an identical one). However, the intangibles in its favor are:

                1. I get more wall plugs, not fewer for having plugged it in, and
                2. It has a minimalist shelf meant to hold a phone for charging, but it might just as well hold a sensor node or gateway, which would be convenient.
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                @NeverDie Was "starting to warm-up" an example of Texan humour, or accidental, given how this thread started off....?

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                • F Offline
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                  #30

                  I second the IKEA alternative for USB chargers. They are hard to beat as a huge company with focus both on cost and safety. And the lygte-info.dk is a great resource.

                  Just remember that a USB charger is optimized to deliver 1-2 A for a couple of hours at a time. That is very different to providing 50 mA continously. I'm thinking of heat dissipation but also efficiency at low power. (So use the lygte-info.dk link to find a good one that performs well at the power you need.)

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                  • NeverDieN Offline
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                    What a strange world we live in that Ikea has become the "go to" source for USB chargers....:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: Not saying that I disagree, but it's just plain odd that we have to resort to that in order to get something trustworthy.

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                    • gohanG Offline
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                      #32

                      It's a compromise between paying premium bucks for a branded charger and having a still tested certified charger still made in China (as per 99% of these kind of products)

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                      • NeverDieN Offline
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                        #33

                        This guy did a teardown on a particular dollar tree USB charger, and although he didn't take it all the way to bits like BigClive did, it seemed to pass muster as far as he was concerned:
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBBvdM9vGfs
                        Most sensors are just not going to draw much current at all compared to the 1.1a that this one cuts out at. So, maybe it is possible after all to get one for $1 that's relatively safe.

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                        • gohanG Offline
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                          #34

                          The problem is always reliability over long term that in teardown is not possible to measure :-)

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                          • NeverDieN NeverDie

                            This guy did a teardown on a particular dollar tree USB charger, and although he didn't take it all the way to bits like BigClive did, it seemed to pass muster as far as he was concerned:
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBBvdM9vGfs
                            Most sensors are just not going to draw much current at all compared to the 1.1a that this one cuts out at. So, maybe it is possible after all to get one for $1 that's relatively safe.

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                            wrote on last edited by Nca78
                            #35

                            @NeverDie said in Which are trustworthy brands for a simple USB wall charger?:

                            This guy did a teardown on a particular dollar tree USB charger, and although he didn't take it all the way to bits like BigClive did, it seemed to pass muster as far as he was concerned:
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBBvdM9vGfs

                            The "tests" are really basic, just enough to show it has a working overcurrent protection.
                            But the PCB is incredibly clean for this price range, with wide space + slot between high/low voltage, and some other slots in the high voltage side.

                            @gohan said in Which are trustworthy brands for a simple USB wall charger?:

                            The problem is always reliability over long term that in teardown is not possible to measure :-)

                            Well with lygte website you can have an idea based on the temperature at full load.
                            At low load temperature stays low so the usual culprits in case of failure (capacitors) will not wear out too quickly.

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                              #36

                              For me, the big problem isn't to find reviews or teardowns. The problem is to find where I can buy the same model that was reviewed.

                              Take the dollar store charger as an example. Even if I could visit the same dollar store, I don't think it is likely that I would be able to buy the same model. Getting it in my part of the world (or on ebay/ali) would be even harder.

                              I like that lygte has info on where they bought it from.

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                              • gohanG Offline
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                                #37

                                then IKEA is the only reliable solution :sweat_smile:

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                                • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                                  For me, the big problem isn't to find reviews or teardowns. The problem is to find where I can buy the same model that was reviewed.

                                  Take the dollar store charger as an example. Even if I could visit the same dollar store, I don't think it is likely that I would be able to buy the same model. Getting it in my part of the world (or on ebay/ali) would be even harder.

                                  I like that lygte has info on where they bought it from.

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                                  wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                  #38

                                  Yeah, I guess IKEA it is. Thanks for your earlier post pointing it out. :)

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                                  • gohanG gohan

                                    then IKEA is the only reliable solution :sweat_smile:

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                                    @gohan said in Which are trustworthy brands for a simple USB wall charger?:

                                    then IKEA is the only reliable solution :sweat_smile:

                                    Should I tell when the LNK36x chip of my Ikea bedside led lamp power supply exploded ? The small black plastic rectangle behind is the top of the packaging of the chip.
                                    Good news is it failed but it was safe, I had a flash when the chip exploded but the fuse blew also (maybe a tad too late :)) and nothing happened to my house.
                                    Ordered some LNK chips from AliExpress, replaced it and the fuse and it was back to life :o

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                                      you see, it was safe at least :D

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                                      • Nca78N Nca78

                                        @gohan said in Which are trustworthy brands for a simple USB wall charger?:

                                        then IKEA is the only reliable solution :sweat_smile:

                                        Should I tell when the LNK36x chip of my Ikea bedside led lamp power supply exploded ? The small black plastic rectangle behind is the top of the packaging of the chip.
                                        Good news is it failed but it was safe, I had a flash when the chip exploded but the fuse blew also (maybe a tad too late :)) and nothing happened to my house.
                                        Ordered some LNK chips from AliExpress, replaced it and the fuse and it was back to life :o

                                        0_1509987071458_image-0-02-01-b0bee3c778c568c7052d0be5136c2fc7a2ea18923e0b30c3b3da0ed183cd1a8b-V.jpg

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                                        #41

                                        @Nca78 Maybe it helped that there was a kind of "wall" separating the exploded part from the low voltage connections?

                                        Back in the day it seemed like everything electrical was UL listed, and it meant something. I never did understand why the US now seems indifferent about the importation of junk that has counterfeit UL Listings.

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                                          China is holding a great deal of US public debt... could be the Americans are closing an eye on this stuff :D

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