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Nemaxx smoke alarm WL2

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    freynder
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    Hi,

    I just wanted to share my findings so far for this smoke detector I'm currently working on in case somebody is interested.

    I bought 5 of them for ~40 EUR a year ago from amazon.de . They use a 9V battery + 3x 1.5V AA batteries. They are able to network over 433Mhz; if 1 alarm is triggered, they will all sound alarm. Amazon link is below:
    https://www.amazon.de/Nemaxx-Funkrauchmelder-Rauchmelder-Brandmelder-koppelbar/dp/B00EZCMFPC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1529688708&sr=8-2&keywords=nemaxx%2Bwl2&th=1

    I did a quick analysis of the PCB and here are the findings:

    • 9V battery powers the smoke detector and piezzo alarm part.
    • 3x 1.5V AA batteries powers a seperate MCU + flash memory through a 3.3V LDO regulator.
    • The MCU seems responsible for user interface (buttons and leds) and communications. It integrates with the smoke detector part.
    • MCU chip is em78p156el
    • When the alarm is activated, pin P64 is pulled low for the duration of the alarm.

    This makes it pretty easy to turn into a MySensors device. There is already a power source + LDO regulator with 3.3V output. Detecting the alarm activating / deactivating is very straightforward using the P64 pin.

    I'm only hesitating if I should use the LDO regulator outputs directly or rather add my own.

    1_1529692669044_pins.png
    0_1529692669044_IMG_20180622_191743.jpg

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    • F freynder

      Hi,

      I just wanted to share my findings so far for this smoke detector I'm currently working on in case somebody is interested.

      I bought 5 of them for ~40 EUR a year ago from amazon.de . They use a 9V battery + 3x 1.5V AA batteries. They are able to network over 433Mhz; if 1 alarm is triggered, they will all sound alarm. Amazon link is below:
      https://www.amazon.de/Nemaxx-Funkrauchmelder-Rauchmelder-Brandmelder-koppelbar/dp/B00EZCMFPC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1529688708&sr=8-2&keywords=nemaxx%2Bwl2&th=1

      I did a quick analysis of the PCB and here are the findings:

      • 9V battery powers the smoke detector and piezzo alarm part.
      • 3x 1.5V AA batteries powers a seperate MCU + flash memory through a 3.3V LDO regulator.
      • The MCU seems responsible for user interface (buttons and leds) and communications. It integrates with the smoke detector part.
      • MCU chip is em78p156el
      • When the alarm is activated, pin P64 is pulled low for the duration of the alarm.

      This makes it pretty easy to turn into a MySensors device. There is already a power source + LDO regulator with 3.3V output. Detecting the alarm activating / deactivating is very straightforward using the P64 pin.

      I'm only hesitating if I should use the LDO regulator outputs directly or rather add my own.

      1_1529692669044_pins.png
      0_1529692669044_IMG_20180622_191743.jpg

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      @freynder nice work. I have these as well and the 3xaa runs out pretty fast for me so a good hack to give it a longer life would be interesting.

      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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        freynder
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        @sundberg84 Interestingly, the 9V battery ran out on me after a year. I'm now replacing it with an amazon basics battery. So far all 5 still have their 3xAA's running. How long before yours run out?

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        • F freynder

          @sundberg84 Interestingly, the 9V battery ran out on me after a year. I'm now replacing it with an amazon basics battery. So far all 5 still have their 3xAA's running. How long before yours run out?

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          @freynder it is different. I don't know if they try to connect to each other and if some having issues with that it drains the battery.

          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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