@Anticimex
Cool, yes now I found that library too, looks great.

@Oitzu
Thanks. Yes, that's how we implemented Arduino IDE support. Basically there is USB emulator that catches the STK500 commands from avrdude. Then it encrypts and forwards them over the air to the target board. Very straightforward ... It needs just configuration utility to set the correct target board.

@Heinz
Yes, agree with that.

@cranky @TD22057
In my opinion cloud is needed for two reason:

1. setting up things without need for programming skills (such as; connections between nodes, encryption keys, addresses ...)
   2) managing big amounts of data collected from several sources (alarms, broken machines, freezing pipes,...)

Most of data should be routed device <=> device whenever possible, and stored to cloud only if it gives some benefit for user (and data owner is aware of data storing).

@Zeph
Yes that's possible. Our boards also come preloaded with unique ID number, RX address and AES key.

Br,
Samuli Stenudd
Riots CEO

Hi, found this forum via Google Analytics showing traffic to our Kickstarter campaign page - really cool stuff, shame I haven't noticed MySensors before.

Seems with a very little effort we could use mySensors library for communication in Riots.

Quickly seems the main differences to our solution are:

• we encrypt all the messages vs. mySensors signs them
• we have nRF24L01 based bootloader that enables nice development options (uploading from the cloud, Arduino IDE wireless uploading & serial monitor).
• we have significant amount of intelligence in the Cloud (for non-programmers)

But many things looks much similar, I really will take a closer look on MySensors.

Br,
Samuli Stenudd
Riots CEO

@Anticimex
Cool, yes now I found that library too, looks great.

@Oitzu
Thanks. Yes, that's how we implemented Arduino IDE support. Basically there is USB emulator that catches the STK500 commands from avrdude. Then it encrypts and forwards them over the air to the target board. Very straightforward ... It needs just configuration utility to set the correct target board.

@Heinz
Yes, agree with that.

@cranky @TD22057
In my opinion cloud is needed for two reason:

1. setting up things without need for programming skills (such as; connections between nodes, encryption keys, addresses ...)
   2) managing big amounts of data collected from several sources (alarms, broken machines, freezing pipes,...)

Most of data should be routed device <=> device whenever possible, and stored to cloud only if it gives some benefit for user (and data owner is aware of data storing).

@Zeph
Yes that's possible. Our boards also come preloaded with unique ID number, RX address and AES key.

Br,
Samuli Stenudd
Riots CEO

Hi, found this forum via Google Analytics showing traffic to our Kickstarter campaign page - really cool stuff, shame I haven't noticed MySensors before.

Seems with a very little effort we could use mySensors library for communication in Riots.

Quickly seems the main differences to our solution are:

• we encrypt all the messages vs. mySensors signs them
• we have nRF24L01 based bootloader that enables nice development options (uploading from the cloud, Arduino IDE wireless uploading & serial monitor).
• we have significant amount of intelligence in the Cloud (for non-programmers)

But many things looks much similar, I really will take a closer look on MySensors.

Br,
Samuli Stenudd
Riots CEO