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Serial GW and motion sensor functionning, but no activity between them

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  • parachutesjP Offline
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    parachutesj
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    #19

    almost forgot:
    to just eliminate the issues with ID, missing controller etc. You could test the radios with a simple NRF24 test script, just google "NRF24 test code" and you will find a bunch to test if the communication works between nodes and radios are ok.

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      Photos of your hardware would be good as 'nano clone' and 'nrf24' come in lots of types and qualities...

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        Rolland
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        #21

        Hi everybody.
        I'm progressing, thanks to you. Here is some more infos :

        • @mfalkvidd and @electrik , ok thanks a lot, i'll put the ID part of the plan aside for a while. Following your advice, when I unplug everything but the power and radio, I've got some weird things happening, worst of all is a sudden crash and reboot of computer when I try to open serial link monitor... :-x
        • @skywatch : nano clones are these ones, and nRF24L01+ are those ones.
        • @parachutesj : i've tried some very good sketches and begin to see a little clearer about nrf24. Using TMRh20 libraries and sketches, I've tried to make a couple of radios+nanos to communicate. The result I got is not so good : One radio just made my computer reboot :-x , while the two others seem more stable, BUT, when sending the ping between the two of them, the serial link console freezes for a little while, then shows back the sketch from the beginning. From what I've been reading, I think this could be a power supply problem (this post, "Power problems" section. I'll try to connect capacitors between VCC and GND of radios to avoid this "freeze" and "reboot" symptoma.

        Next steps for me would be (I think) :

        • see if capacitors can do the job and solve the problem
        • try some other radio modules maybe ?
        • try an official Arduino nano maybe ?

        Again, thank you all for your help !

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        • R Rolland

          Hi everybody.
          I'm progressing, thanks to you. Here is some more infos :

          • @mfalkvidd and @electrik , ok thanks a lot, i'll put the ID part of the plan aside for a while. Following your advice, when I unplug everything but the power and radio, I've got some weird things happening, worst of all is a sudden crash and reboot of computer when I try to open serial link monitor... :-x
          • @skywatch : nano clones are these ones, and nRF24L01+ are those ones.
          • @parachutesj : i've tried some very good sketches and begin to see a little clearer about nrf24. Using TMRh20 libraries and sketches, I've tried to make a couple of radios+nanos to communicate. The result I got is not so good : One radio just made my computer reboot :-x , while the two others seem more stable, BUT, when sending the ping between the two of them, the serial link console freezes for a little while, then shows back the sketch from the beginning. From what I've been reading, I think this could be a power supply problem (this post, "Power problems" section. I'll try to connect capacitors between VCC and GND of radios to avoid this "freeze" and "reboot" symptoma.

          Next steps for me would be (I think) :

          • see if capacitors can do the job and solve the problem
          • try some other radio modules maybe ?
          • try an official Arduino nano maybe ?

          Again, thank you all for your help !

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          #22

          @Rolland I was hoping you'd post a photo of what you have made so we can see the wiring etc.... But, you have unshielded pa/lna radio modules and I suggest getting some non-pa/lna ones from cdebyte on aliexpress.

          How are you powering the radios?
          What are you using to power the nano?

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            @Rolland unfortunately I have to confirm what @skywatch said: the radios are crap. I had those and never made good experience with them. Also the amplified long range radios are not really needed in most cases and if, then they need a really good power source to run otherwise I never got stable connections.
            Besides, any cheap NRF24 from China worked quite well for me. Some very few were faulty but if you get 10 for 7 USD you can live with that
            https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32518935864.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.686fe77cXL8wSb&algo_pvid=ad7873cd-c5ff-4de5-8f42-f1648f896a0b&algo_expid=ad7873cd-c5ff-4de5-8f42-f1648f896a0b-1&btsid=0ab6d70515882563711402031e6ae8&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
            Not saying those are the best, but easier than the PA-ones.

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            • R Rolland

              Hi everybody.
              I'm progressing, thanks to you. Here is some more infos :

              • @mfalkvidd and @electrik , ok thanks a lot, i'll put the ID part of the plan aside for a while. Following your advice, when I unplug everything but the power and radio, I've got some weird things happening, worst of all is a sudden crash and reboot of computer when I try to open serial link monitor... :-x
              • @skywatch : nano clones are these ones, and nRF24L01+ are those ones.
              • @parachutesj : i've tried some very good sketches and begin to see a little clearer about nrf24. Using TMRh20 libraries and sketches, I've tried to make a couple of radios+nanos to communicate. The result I got is not so good : One radio just made my computer reboot :-x , while the two others seem more stable, BUT, when sending the ping between the two of them, the serial link console freezes for a little while, then shows back the sketch from the beginning. From what I've been reading, I think this could be a power supply problem (this post, "Power problems" section. I'll try to connect capacitors between VCC and GND of radios to avoid this "freeze" and "reboot" symptoma.

              Next steps for me would be (I think) :

              • see if capacitors can do the job and solve the problem
              • try some other radio modules maybe ?
              • try an official Arduino nano maybe ?

              Again, thank you all for your help !

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              parachutesj
              wrote on last edited by
              #24

              @Rolland don't bother with official Arduino (imho). the clones work flawless. I have a lot here in my home and they work well. It is just not worth it to pay 10x the price

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                skywatch
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                #25

                @Rolland these are the modules I would recommend.....

                https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000186023497.html

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                  Rolland
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                  #26

                  Hello everybody. Ok, I've made some shopping, according to your advices, waiting for items to arrive. Until then, see you soon and take care, thanks again. I'll post the results of the new combination, hoping for success.
                  Ciao.

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                  • R Rolland

                    Hello everybody. Ok, I've made some shopping, according to your advices, waiting for items to arrive. Until then, see you soon and take care, thanks again. I'll post the results of the new combination, hoping for success.
                    Ciao.

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                    wrote on last edited by skywatch
                    #27

                    @Rolland That is good news - what capacitors did you get for the NRF24's ???

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                    • skywatchS skywatch

                      @Rolland That is good news - what capacitors did you get for the NRF24's ???

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                      #28

                      @skywatch I've got some 10 µF and 100 µF electrolytic capacitors, and just received a bunch of other various capacitors, ranging from 1 to 470 µF. I haven't tested them for now.
                      But good news ! I also received 3 NRF24L01+ with built in antennas, reset the entire crew of nodes and gateway, and it works like a charm :blush:
                      I'm more than happy. Thanks again for all your advices.
                      I'll post some news later, testing the capacitors with NRF24L01+ and antennas.
                      Ciao.

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