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$8 Lamp (Outlet) "Smart Plug" Module

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    petewill
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    @DanielD said:

    I don't understand is how I will do the communication between getway ethernet and another device.

    You probably want to check out this: http://www.mysensors.org/about/ and this: http://www.openhab.org/

    It will will take some learning and I suggest you start out small. See if you can get OpenHab up and running first. When you understand that you can start using MySensors. I had my Vera for a few months before I started learning MySensors. It was helpful to learn the controller before MySensors.

    My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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      Thank you very much for detailed description!
      But I cannot understand how to send commands from OpenHab to turn relay on and off. Please direct me.
      After a long time I can finally get the messages from sensors via serial connection, but not the other way.
      Cheers!

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        Thank you very much for detailed description!
        But I cannot understand how to send commands from OpenHab to turn relay on and off. Please direct me.
        After a long time I can finally get the messages from sensors via serial connection, but not the other way.
        Cheers!

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        petewill
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        @almj I use Vera as my controller so I'm not sure how to set up OpenHab. I know there are some instructions for setting it up here on the forum. If you're still stuck you may get better responses by posting to a new topic. Sorry I can't be more help.

        My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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          bytedeez
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          Is it really that difficult or expensive to get old chargers?
          I found 10 for $10.99 on ebay.
          :stuck_out_tongue:

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            Is it really that difficult or expensive to get old chargers?
            I found 10 for $10.99 on ebay.
            :stuck_out_tongue:

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            petewill
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            @bytedeez Nah, it's not that hard or expensive. It's always nice to get them free when you can though :)

            My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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              Hello,

              Which is connected to the relay in the diagram???

              Thanks,

              Douglas (Brasil)

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                Hello,

                Which is connected to the relay in the diagram???

                Thanks,

                Douglas (Brasil)

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                petewill
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                @Douglas I just used the standard wiring from the build page here: http://www.mysensors.org/build/relay

                My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                  sundberg84
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                  Hi @petewill!
                  I made this :) Great video :+1:

                  I think i get bad reception or something because it works the first 5-6 times and then nothing...

                  In the end you describe an cat5 wire added as antenna because of bad reception.
                  Do you remove the plastic/shielding so its just copper?
                  Im afraid to short anything out with a long uncovered antenna if thats the case...

                  and if i hear you right its 3,28 inches which should be 33,31200 millimeters on the antenna?

                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                  RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                    Hi @petewill!
                    I made this :) Great video :+1:

                    I think i get bad reception or something because it works the first 5-6 times and then nothing...

                    In the end you describe an cat5 wire added as antenna because of bad reception.
                    Do you remove the plastic/shielding so its just copper?
                    Im afraid to short anything out with a long uncovered antenna if thats the case...

                    and if i hear you right its 3,28 inches which should be 33,31200 millimeters on the antenna?

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                    @sundberg84 said:

                    Hi @petewill!
                    I made this :) Great video :+1:

                    I think i get bad reception or something because it works the first 5-6 times and then nothing...

                    This could also be a power or a wiring issue. But, the antenna is an easy modification so it wouldn't hurt to try this first. Another test is to move the device closer to your gateway. If it still stops after 5-6 times then it probably isn't communication issues.

                    In the end you describe an cat5 wire added as antenna because of bad reception.
                    Do you remove the plastic/shielding so its just copper?
                    Im afraid to short anything out with a long uncovered antenna if thats the case...

                    No, I left the shielding on the wire. Sorry, I should have specified that.

                    and if i hear you right its 3,28 inches which should be 33,31200 millimeters on the antenna?

                    I think 3.28 inches is 83.312 millimeters (at least that's what google says it is).

                    My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                      AWI
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                      I have these lockups all the time and have not been able to get rid of them. I tried:

                      • separated power supplies
                      • capacitors
                      • shielding

                      Most probably (in my case) is the spike introduced by the coil of the relay. This somehow puts the radio in a sleep (or half dead) state. By moving away from mechanical to triac (ssd) 'relays' I was finaly able to solve it. If you find a solution please post.

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                        @AWI Hmm, ok... will give it a try and report back if i find anything...

                        It seems to be both range and spikes? The sensor works great without anything connected to 240v out but as soon as i connect anything like a lamp it fails within 5 on/off. Also when i move it close to the gw but then atleast it works without any 240v connected.

                        The SSD relays, is that something like this?
                        http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-5V-DC-1-Channel-Solid-State-Relay-Board-module-High-Level-fuse-for-arduino-/191563980850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2c9a1a6032

                        Any downsides with SSR relays?

                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                          @AWI Hmm, ok... will give it a try and report back if i find anything...

                          It seems to be both range and spikes? The sensor works great without anything connected to 240v out but as soon as i connect anything like a lamp it fails within 5 on/off. Also when i move it close to the gw but then atleast it works without any 240v connected.

                          The SSD relays, is that something like this?
                          http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-5V-DC-1-Channel-Solid-State-Relay-Board-module-High-Level-fuse-for-arduino-/191563980850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2c9a1a6032

                          Any downsides with SSR relays?

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                          AWI
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                          @sundberg84 I have never found these before. Sounds like an interesting option. Made myself boards like these
                          The 'downside' of these is that there can be a leak voltage when the output is left open.

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                            @AWI Your link didnt work (typo)
                            Ill give these a try and let post if they are any good.

                            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                              I have these lockups all the time and have not been able to get rid of them. I tried:

                              • separated power supplies
                              • capacitors
                              • shielding

                              Most probably (in my case) is the spike introduced by the coil of the relay. This somehow puts the radio in a sleep (or half dead) state. By moving away from mechanical to triac (ssd) 'relays' I was finaly able to solve it. If you find a solution please post.

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                              @AWI said:

                              I have these lockups all the time and have not been able to get rid of them. I tried:

                              • separated power supplies
                              • capacitors
                              • shielding

                              Most probably (in my case) is the spike introduced by the coil of the relay. This somehow puts the radio in a sleep (or half dead) state. By moving away from mechanical to triac (ssd) 'relays' I was finaly able to solve it. If you find a solution please post.

                              Strange. I have been using mine for months without any issues. It is triggered by motion in my family room so it is used every day multiple times. Were you powering the relay from the Arduino or directly from the 5v?

                              My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                                sundberg84
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                                @petewill In my case from VCC from arduino. I try to change incoming to raw and see if that makes any differens.

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                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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                                  @petewill In my case from VCC from arduino. I try to change incoming to raw and see if that makes any differens.

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                                  petewill
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                                  @sundberg84 said:

                                  @petewill In my case from VCC from arduino. I try to change incoming to raw and see if that makes any differens.

                                  Yeah, let me know. It's been a while, so I don't remember what project I had issues with, but I had issues with power when I was using the Arduino 5V. I always try to pull power from the source (not Arduino) whenever I can now. Hopefully this will help your issue.

                                  My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                                    Now the relay powers up, and i can switch (led turns on) but no click/coil activation so no 240v power out. Changed the relay but same result. I have 5v relay vcc and 5v on in but nothing... strange.

                                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
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                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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                                      Now the relay powers up, and i can switch (led turns on) but no click/coil activation so no 240v power out. Changed the relay but same result. I have 5v relay vcc and 5v on in but nothing... strange.

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                                      Moshe Livne
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                                      @sundberg84 try the relay by itself first - connect to 5v and gnd and give it signal (even by just touching a wire to the signal leg). I had a run of several dead relays (was because of non rectified power supply so they switched on and off 50 times a second... one of the best ways to kill a relay I think)

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                                        Now the relay powers up, and i can switch (led turns on) but no click/coil activation so no 240v power out. Changed the relay but same result. I have 5v relay vcc and 5v on in but nothing... strange.

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                                        @sundberg84 said:

                                        Now the relay powers up, and i can switch (led turns on) but no click/coil activation so no 240v power out. Changed the relay but same result. I have 5v relay vcc and 5v on in but nothing... strange.

                                        Wow, that is strange. I am using 5 or so different relays all around my house every day and I've never had this issues. I always connect them to 5v directly from the dc transformer (old cell phone chargers).

                                        My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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                                          Hi,

                                          any possibility of including a push button to manually trigger the switch on and off as well?
                                          And if possible update Vera on the status change.

                                          This way i can make it Wife safe and not get kicked out of the house...

                                          I'm not good with coding but if someone can point me in the right direction please...

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