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  • alexsh1A Offline
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    alexsh1
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    #1

    Hello,

    Anyone have used these tiny transceivers?
    I'm struggling to find headers and other accessories

    Cheers
    Alex0_1454680877023_image.jpeg

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      • OitzuO Offline
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        Oitzu
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        #3

        @alexsh1 yeah they are not really new and well.. as you said, for smd mounting.
        Here you can see the pinout: http://www.sunrom.com/media/content/404/dim.gif

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        • OitzuO Oitzu

          @alexsh1 yeah they are not really new and well.. as you said, for smd mounting.
          Here you can see the pinout: http://www.sunrom.com/media/content/404/dim.gif

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          #4

          @Oitzu I did not realise they are not new. However, my point is that I'd to know how these perform vs normal ones.

          Also I can fit them into a very tight places. However, getting 0.05" (1.27mm) headers is a problem. Will be ordering some on aliexpress shortly if I manage to find them.

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          • alexsh1A alexsh1

            @Oitzu I did not realise they are not new. However, my point is that I'd to know how these perform vs normal ones.

            Also I can fit them into a very tight places. However, getting 0.05" (1.27mm) headers is a problem. Will be ordering some on aliexpress shortly if I manage to find them.

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            Oitzu
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            #5

            @alexsh1 in my tests they pretty much perform the same as the big modules.
            Well.. afaik there are no headers for that. They are meant to soldered directly to pcb.

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            • alexsh1A alexsh1

              @Oitzu I did not realise they are not new. However, my point is that I'd to know how these perform vs normal ones.

              Also I can fit them into a very tight places. However, getting 0.05" (1.27mm) headers is a problem. Will be ordering some on aliexpress shortly if I manage to find them.

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              Yveaux
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              wrote on last edited by Yveaux
              #6

              @alexsh1 You could use an adapter to prototype these.
              In your final product solder them directly on the PCB or solder wires to them.

              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                #7

                @Yveaux - This is an excellent find. Merci!

                Thank you guys - my idea is to run Sensebender Micro with nrf24l01+ smd and a tiny CR3032 to save space. I'll probably need to use one of these adapters or use wires.

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                • alexsh1A alexsh1

                  @Oitzu I did not realise they are not new. However, my point is that I'd to know how these perform vs normal ones.

                  Also I can fit them into a very tight places. However, getting 0.05" (1.27mm) headers is a problem. Will be ordering some on aliexpress shortly if I manage to find them.

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                  AWI
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                  wrote on last edited by AWI
                  #8

                  @alexsh1 in my experience with the small version they perform well. As soon as my skills allow it I will try to adapt 2AA slim design :relieved: this is my current artwork.:wink:

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                    #9

                    @AWI I looked at your artwork some time ago, but decided to go for this node in terms of size and functionality.

                    As I said before, the plan is to have Sensorbender and this transceiver in a low power node

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                    • alexsh1A alexsh1

                      @AWI I looked at your artwork some time ago, but decided to go for this node in terms of size and functionality.

                      As I said before, the plan is to have Sensorbender and this transceiver in a low power node

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                      #10

                      @alexsh1 mounting the SMD version of the radio with wires on the Sensebender would really make it small
                      0_1454831179733_upload-9fcfabd2-2440-4000-a341-f0ace9eda6c7 0_1454831627490_upload-e8426af7-08ba-4aa1-85db-6e94edeb91ce

                      From browsing OSH Park, I believe @GertSanders is experimenting with the SMD radio also (sorry Gert for lifting the lid) ;-)

                      0_1454831782226_upload-57a23984-9dc4-43cb-b943-4516dd2720bc

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                        #11

                        @AWI Thanks - really great to know that @GertSanders has been already working on a SMD version.

                        I found another interesting adapter for 1.27mm nrf24l01+

                        https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/CtW4Xaow

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                          alexsh1
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                          #12

                          By the way @GertSanders , is your SMD board similar to @m26872 one (http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2067/my-slim-2aa-battery-node)?

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                            Propably no difference. I have asked about it a week ago http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2984/nrf24l01-mini-vs-normal-size-module

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                              @AWI No problem, this board is making its way to me via the mail now (was shipped from OSH Park last wednesday).

                              I'm hoping to test it coming week.

                              This board one is a one-trick pony. It is based on @m26872's concept of a very narrow board, but in my case I just need it to handle 2 magnetic switches. So pull-up resistors and connection for two contacts (normally closed) is provided (on the pins that allow hardware wake up from power down), and nothing else. No crystal, just minimal power decoupling and a led. No FTDI adapter or ISP. And of course only connection for the SMD version of the NRF24.

                              0_1454851622651_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.22.03.png

                              0_1454851679505_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.21.41.png

                              While that was being made at OSH Park I prepared a second design, but this one is still in movement (not ordered yet), measurements are in mm:

                              0_1454852947623_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.47.56.png

                              It is certainly not a Sensebender, as it lacks ATSHA204A, SI7021 and SPIFlash, but it does have FTDI interface and optional pull-ups on D2 and D3. It is my first try at SMD, with 0805 size components (I need to be able to hand solder them).

                              The objective is to make a working sensor board as flat as possible. At the moment is is even smaller then the CR2032 batteryholder I was planning to use. A possibility is that I go for a two board approach using this "flat node" and a second board to hold a CR1632 (a holder for this smaller battery is in the image above, Keystone Technologies model 3013).

                              To be continued ...

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                              • GertSandersG GertSanders

                                @AWI No problem, this board is making its way to me via the mail now (was shipped from OSH Park last wednesday).

                                I'm hoping to test it coming week.

                                This board one is a one-trick pony. It is based on @m26872's concept of a very narrow board, but in my case I just need it to handle 2 magnetic switches. So pull-up resistors and connection for two contacts (normally closed) is provided (on the pins that allow hardware wake up from power down), and nothing else. No crystal, just minimal power decoupling and a led. No FTDI adapter or ISP. And of course only connection for the SMD version of the NRF24.

                                0_1454851622651_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.22.03.png

                                0_1454851679505_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.21.41.png

                                While that was being made at OSH Park I prepared a second design, but this one is still in movement (not ordered yet), measurements are in mm:

                                0_1454852947623_Screen Shot 2016-02-07 at 14.47.56.png

                                It is certainly not a Sensebender, as it lacks ATSHA204A, SI7021 and SPIFlash, but it does have FTDI interface and optional pull-ups on D2 and D3. It is my first try at SMD, with 0805 size components (I need to be able to hand solder them).

                                The objective is to make a working sensor board as flat as possible. At the moment is is even smaller then the CR2032 batteryholder I was planning to use. A possibility is that I go for a two board approach using this "flat node" and a second board to hold a CR1632 (a holder for this smaller battery is in the image above, Keystone Technologies model 3013).

                                To be continued ...

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                @GertSanders said:

                                This board one is a one-trick pony. It is based on @m26872's concept of a very narrow board, but in my case I just need it to handle 2 magnetic switches.

                                This is what I was looking for as I need a small board for a reed switch. Please keep us posted about your testing

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                                  i like the first layou. Its just pretty narrow. ideal for housing in a cable duct. if there will be an atsha204, a flash modul and a battery sensor this would be the perfect node.

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                                    Let a fiddly job begin...0_1454940850479_image.jpeg

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                                    • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                      Let a fiddly job begin...0_1454940850479_image.jpeg

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                                      @alexsh1 those pliers seem to be the wrong size.... :smirk:

                                      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                        @Yveaux yeah, I know - I placed an order today for a new set of cutters on Amazon

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                                        • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                          Let a fiddly job begin...0_1454940850479_image.jpeg

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                                          @alexsh1 don't mount it in the wrong direction...

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