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NRF24L01+PA+LNA

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  • OitzuO Offline
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    Oitzu
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    @bigjimjeedom i'm eager to hear your results. :)

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      flopp
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      Other problem
      I have cap 4,7uf
      No shield
      Power from seperate source

      When I use it in my Ethernet gateway it starts up but can't receive anything.
      When I put it on other Uno(repeater) it works fine.
      When I have it on Uno(battery sensor sketch) it works fine.![alt text](image url)

      What am I missing?

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        Oitzu
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        Add shield try again. Even electronics near to the pa/lna module can induce enough noise that it stops working.

        Different power supplys on the ethernet gateway and the uno?

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          Add shield try again. Even electronics near to the pa/lna module can induce enough noise that it stops working.

          Different power supplys on the ethernet gateway and the uno?

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          flopp
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          @Oitzu
          Ok will try with shield.

          Yes, different computers both GW and REP is powered by USB.

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            @flopp said:

            Yes, different computers both GW and REP is powered by USB.

            But same source the pa/lna module or also different?

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            • OitzuO Oitzu

              @flopp said:

              Yes, different computers both GW and REP is powered by USB.

              But same source the pa/lna module or also different?

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              @Oitzu
              PA is getting from a second USB port(not same as GW) through a step-down to 3,3.
              GND is connected together from both ports

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                @Oitzu
                PA is getting from a second USB port(not same as GW) through a step-down to 3,3.
                GND is connected together from both ports

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                Oitzu
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                @flopp said:
                through a step-down to 3,3.

                I suspect linear regulator? Then it should, normally, no problem.

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                • OitzuO Oitzu

                  @flopp said:
                  through a step-down to 3,3.

                  I suspect linear regulator? Then it should, normally, no problem.

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                  @Oitzu said:

                  @flopp said:
                  through a step-down to 3,3.

                  I suspect linear regulator?

                  I have no knowledge about that but I don't think so, because I can turn on a screw to change from ~1.5-4 V

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                    @Oitzu said:

                    @flopp said:
                    through a step-down to 3,3.

                    I suspect linear regulator?

                    I have no knowledge about that but I don't think so, because I can turn on a screw to change from ~1.5-4 V

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                    @flopp said:

                    I have no knowledge about that but I don't think so, because I can turn on a screw to change from ~1.5-4 V

                    Oh, sounds like a switching regulator to me, but can't be sure. Does it have any name? A switching regulator could produce some significant ripple in your supply, that maybe needs to be filtered out.

                    Would try the shield first, and then see. :D

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                    • OitzuO Oitzu

                      @flopp said:

                      I have no knowledge about that but I don't think so, because I can turn on a screw to change from ~1.5-4 V

                      Oh, sounds like a switching regulator to me, but can't be sure. Does it have any name? A switching regulator could produce some significant ripple in your supply, that maybe needs to be filtered out.

                      Would try the shield first, and then see. :D

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                      @Oitzu said:

                      @flopp said:

                      I have no knowledge about that but I don't think so, because I can turn on a screw to change from ~1.5-4 V

                      Oh, sounds like a switching regulator to me, but can't be sure. Does it have any name? A switching regulator could produce some significant ripple in your supply, that maybe needs to be filtered out.

                      Would try the shield first, and then see. :D

                      Thank you @Oitzu I change to a different step-down and it started to work, even without shield. Now I use this http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-5V-to-3-3V-DC-DC-Step-Down-Power-Supply-Buck-Module-AMS1117-LDO-800MA-/281058278731

                      before it was this "s**t" http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/RC-Airplane-Module-Mini-360-DC-Buck-Converter-Step-Down-Module-4-75V-23V-to/1686390_32266152653.html

                      Left is GOOD right is BAD

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                        Oitzu
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                        @flopp said:

                        Left is GOOD right is BAD

                        Just to note: That is a little bit to simple. The left is a linear regulator the right one a switching regulator.
                        That are different technologies that both have there up and downsides. But for sensors a linear regulator often fits better, yes.

                        it started to work, even without shield

                        Never the less i would recommend the shield for even better performance, especially if you want to crank up the pa_level for higher range.

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                          I gave up on trying to get the PA+LNB version working with my NodeMCU, reverted back to standard for now!

                          BTW, I tried it with many different power supplies and with without shielding. Tried for almost a week.

                          In the end I buckled and ordered a proper shielded version, awaiting its arrival...

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                            moskovskiy82
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                            @Mark-Swift said:

                            In the end I buckled and ordered a proper shielded version, awaiting its arrival...

                            Where did you get this one? And also share your experience after arriving of the item

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                              http://www.aliexpress.com/item/E01-ML01DP5-Ebyte-2-4GHz-20dBm-2100m-nRF24L01-SPI-Wireless-transceiver-module/32638720689.html

                              The company also communicated some interesting issues that can cause issues with the nRF... Such as:

                              1. Watch control voltage, they're easily damaged if you use 5v, hence they suggest pushing control voltage with a 1K-5.1K resistor, even better to use 3.3v (hence on my next one to play it safe I'll use a spare 5v -> 3.3v level shift converter too).
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                                @Mark-Swift let us know how they perform. The supplier looks very professional.
                                Would be interesting if they really reach the promised 2.1km :D
                                (I wonder with which antenna)

                                even better to use 3.3v (hence on my next one to play it safe I'll use a spare 5v -> 3.3v level shift converter too).

                                Or use a 3.3V pro mini.

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