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💬 My simple RFM dongle for Serial GW

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  • DwaltD Offline
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    Dwalt
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    #20

    Nice to see ATSHA204A included. Could this be used as a gateway on a USB port? I am not familiar within SAMD, but how does this work without USB to serial chip?

    Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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    • scalzS Offline
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      #21

      @Dwalt
      yep atsha204A is a Mysensors classic, and a very nice feature :) I feel better secured now, thx Anticimex :laughing:
      Yes it will be possible. There is already a better different GW from tbowmo. But I didn't see my option here, so I did it, and if sometimes I need something simple...or want to make a gift lol
      SAMD includes internal USB drivers. So it can be used as a client USB, or like CDC serial comm (Virtual Serial Port). So no need of usb to serial; cool :)

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      • tbowmoT Offline
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        #22

        @Dwalt

        It acts as a serial device on the USB port. I have a GW running with atsamd21J (bigger brother to the one @scalz are using). Been using both USB and ethernet to connect to the device.

        The nice thing of an embedded USB controller, versus an external usb to serial device, is that you can make your device act as whatever usb device you want. For example make it a mass memory device, or a mouse / keyboard (HID). The sky is the limit :)

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        • scalzS Offline
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          scalz
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          wrote on last edited by scalz
          #23

          mini update..
          So thx to @GertSanders and his ideas! Again I had to challenge myself yesterday :laughing:
          I have updated description but briefly I have added:

          • enlarged a little bit :disappointed:
          • 2x 1.0mm pitch connector; one for I2C+1pin in case, and another one for JTAG programming bootloader (this was pogo pins but as averything is on top, I feel more secure with a true connector)
          • eeprom
          • routing and silkscreen
          • now, usb connector is no mandatory, but I prefer with it..

          still very few things to make looking better and I upload my files :)

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          • KoreshK Offline
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            #24

            RFM69 has built-in authentication, is atsha chip really needed?

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            • hekH Offline
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              wrote on last edited by hek
              #25

              No, it got build in encryption. Not the same.

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              • scalzS Offline
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                scalz
                Hardware Contributor
                wrote on last edited by scalz
                #26

                rfm69 has encryption which just hide your data. it's bonus and useful, but it does not provide key authentication, handled by athsa. imho, authentication is more important. I should receive my pcb soon now..this time, oshpark has been a bit longer than usual for my order :disappointed:

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                • scalzS Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by scalz
                  #27

                  I have just assembled one board, and I'm testing it.
                  so far I'm pretty happy. as expected, it's communicating with my other "zero" board ( the other white board, lipo etc..). yeah :)

                  I've not tried lorawan yet, I'm just using basic raw routines for radio communication between the two nodes (a part from LMIC library). and I will try lowpowerlab rev too when more time as I'm busy on other cool gizmos :) and then, if not already done, will try to integrate into mysensors transport. ughh, I don't know when, quite lot of work!

                  0_1463687336163_2016-05-19_21-35-07.jpg

                  0_1463687345049_2016-05-19_21-35-08.jpg

                  you can see I have not received i2c eeprom yet, and my jst connectors too! too bad, so I sodered temporary wire for jtag :) in case..I'm using RFM95W 868mhz, only with whip wire antenna for the moment, I have not tried the sma, nor rfm69hcw. that will be next step after having checked the range like this..

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                  • scalzS Offline
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                    scalz
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #28

                    and playing a bit with 3d design..
                    0_1463743312232_usb_dongle_custom_box.PNG

                    yummy :)

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                    • scalzS Offline
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                      #29

                      few other pics, a bit better quality :blush:

                      I've not used oven this time. just handsoldered. 0603. I've not tried yet, to use pcb only for plugging (without connector), I will do (it could be smaller) but I prefer/more confident with a connector.
                      0_1463761550575_20160520_1646271.jpg
                      0_1463761570655_20160520_1646012.jpg

                      funny and tiny, not so much feature, there are other boards with more pins but I wanted this one simple, with minimal mysensors things, when I will receive my jst, I will have more pins like i2c. but for the moment, I like it :) connected directly in usb without wire, playing with arduino, neopixel, serial and radio etc..like a child :)

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                      • scalzS Offline
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                        scalz
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #30

                        I'm playing with radiohead lib now. nothing special but that works well too :)
                        0_1463904327814_2016-05-22_09-53-53.jpg
                        I have looked a bit at LMIC (radio management+protocol), for curiosity. I like the the "rtos" style, it's well done, sure, but it's mostly another protocol... there are nice things though.

                        I think, the best, imho, would be to extract radiohead rfm95 driver and make something like rfm69 lowpowerlab lib. Or trying to add radiohead to mysensors..In each case, that is some stuff&debug.

                        Now, I would like to have my lora nodes in mysensors...so what's next?...no, no, don't say what i haven't said ... :laughing:

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                          @scalz
                          You could look have a look at the new minimal rf24-driver made by @tekka. It contains the bare minimal needed for communicating.

                          If the radiohead/rfm95 driver can be transformed into something similar, then go ahead. :)

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                          • scalzS Offline
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                            wrote on last edited by scalz
                            #32

                            @hek
                            I have looked at Tekka lib, thx :)
                            For convenience, for the moment ;), I have almost repackaged radiohead and rfm95 parts into something "standalone" (like lowpowerlab certainly did for rfm69). I keep from radiohead a few more getter/setters because I like it lol.

                            Basic things compiling&working, argh not in mysensors yet, as I'm still on the driver part. I'm trying to follow a bit the lowpowerlab flow, so it will be easier then for a rfm95transport. Still lot of things to check, wip..but for the moment, for a simple raw reliable (sendWithretry) sketch, I get something 17% flash, 25% ram for a 328p...compared to 49%/80% using radiohead lib. I hope things won't grow too much, I will try to get things compact as I can ;)

                            Though, there were interesting things in radiohead lib:

                            • the way it's structured (a bit like mysensors, with a radio driver, spi and more general/generic layer).
                            • I have not tested it but you can handle multiple int and radio for instance.

                            It was a bit of work to navigate in, to be sure to not forgive something, not a nightmare lol hopefully radiohead has a great and well done documentation.
                            Talking about this..do you have a doc like this for mysensors, for the description and class hierarchy? just curious :)

                            See you soon

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                            • hekH Offline
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #33

                              Yes we have, but it relies on contributors using doxygen (and only parts of the current code is documented properly).

                              https://ci.mysensors.org/job/MySensorsArduino/branch/development/Doxygen_HTML/

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                                scalz
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                                wrote on last edited by scalz
                                #34

                                @hek
                                ok. I saw this before, but didn't know where it was located. great, thx :)
                                so I will install a doxygen plugin ;) I will try to add the docs. In code it's always useful, but like doxygen does is the next step I was searching for. I was pretty sure there was something like this: doxygen lol! I will sleep less dumb tonight :laughing:

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #35

                                  As I see the development based on SAMD21 enfold, the behaviour brain I'm building for my mobile robot would be better based on that processor instead of the atmega1284p I'm using now.

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                                  • scalzS Offline
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                                    Hardware Contributor
                                    wrote on last edited by scalz
                                    #36

                                    I have just assembled another one for a friend. Works very well with mysensors 2 :)
                                    0_1468163482216_gw_dongle.jpg
                                    Same pcb for the two's of course, I like the rgb led with the indication led api ;):

                                    • on left, long range RFM95 GW usb dongle.
                                    • on right, RFM69 High power GW usb dongle.
                                    • bottom, a multisensors I have just assembled.
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                                    • MiKaM Offline
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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #37

                                      Hi,
                                      Can You share sketch example for SAMD21E and RFM69 node?
                                      MiKa

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                                        wrote on last edited by scalz
                                        #38

                                        @MiKa
                                        Hi.
                                        oki, in case i'll add some explanation.. I'll be busy for this week but you can simply use the serial gw example from MySensors for getting started, this should work. I didn't need to create a special board in arduino for this board, so if you're using it, you'll need to install&use the mattairtech SAMD21 board definition for the pin mapping.
                                        https://github.com/mattairtech/ArduinoCore-samd

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