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  • macieiksM macieiks

    Hello,

    I have a question about the dimensions. Could you tell me what is the exact measure when fully assembled with nrf24 and with / without goldpins? I have tiny, transparent boxes and curious if I can fit them inside :D

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    @macieiks

    The pcb itself is 21 mm wide and 23 mm long.

    With the radio the longest side becomes 30 mm long and 21 mm wide.

    Without any pins mounted, the board is just under 5 mm think.

    If the dual row angled headers are mounted, the longest side (30 mm with radio) becomes 39 mm.
    You will need to add the length of the contacts + wire to that for a complete length.

    You can also turn the dual row angled header inwards (towards the radio), then the maximum length is still 30 mm.

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    • GertSandersG GertSanders

      @macieiks

      The pcb itself is 21 mm wide and 23 mm long.

      With the radio the longest side becomes 30 mm long and 21 mm wide.

      Without any pins mounted, the board is just under 5 mm think.

      If the dual row angled headers are mounted, the longest side (30 mm with radio) becomes 39 mm.
      You will need to add the length of the contacts + wire to that for a complete length.

      You can also turn the dual row angled header inwards (towards the radio), then the maximum length is still 30 mm.

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      NeverDie
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      @GertSanders What is the difference between the v1 version of your stamp size mysensor node that's on OSH PARK and the V2 version that's on your website that you linked to in your OP ( https://www.openhardware.io/view/76/Stamp-size-MySensor-node )?

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      • NeverDieN NeverDie

        @GertSanders What is the difference between the v1 version of your stamp size mysensor node that's on OSH PARK and the V2 version that's on your website that you linked to in your OP ( https://www.openhardware.io/view/76/Stamp-size-MySensor-node )?

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        @NeverDie
        None. The plan was to enhance it, so I copied my version 1 to version 2. But then I decided to publish it in Openhardware anyway.
        This board is a proof of concept for me.
        My next version will have a 8Mhz crystal. The addional powerconsumption is negligable bit the accuracy of timing is much better (and constant, even with dropping voltage).
        So the board on OSH Park is identical to the one on Openhardware.io

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          #9

          Thanks! I ordered it yesterday from OSH PARK, so good to hear.

          Have you found something where you really do need the 8mhz crystal oscillator, or were you adding it as a "just in case"?

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          • NeverDieN NeverDie

            Thanks! I ordered it yesterday from OSH PARK, so good to hear.

            Have you found something where you really do need the 8mhz crystal oscillator, or were you adding it as a "just in case"?

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            @NeverDie
            I have a use case where I need the clock to be acurate. For realy low power nodes like the ones with reed switches, I also prefer the internal oscillator.

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              #11

              @GertSanders

              Goedenavond Gert,

              What's your boards.txt file is saying please? I uploaded the bootloader (optiboot_atmega328_08M_038400_D8) and all went OK until I upload my first sketch.
              After that I am getting:

              avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x32
              avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x0f
              avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 3 of 10: not in sync: resp=0xfb
              avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 4 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x32
              avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 5 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x0f
              avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 6 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x73
              avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 7 of 10: not in sync: resp=0xff
              avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 8 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x32
              avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 9 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x0f
              avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 10 of 10: not in sync: resp=0xfb
              

              I have to upload the bootloader again in order to upload the sketch - something is clearly not working. This is my extract from boards.txt:

              BlueBoard.menu.mhz.8Mhz= 8Mhz - internal oscillator D8 LED for atmega328-tqfp
              BlueBoard.menu.mhz.8Mhz.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
              BlueBoard.menu.mhz.8Mhz.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDE
              BlueBoard.menu.mhz.8Mhz.build.f_cpu=8000000L 
              BlueBoard.menu.mhz.8Mhz.upload.speed=38400
              BlueBoard.menu.mhz.8Mhz.bootloader.file=myoptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_08M_038400_D8.hex
              
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              • alexsh1A alexsh1

                @GertSanders

                Goedenavond Gert,

                What's your boards.txt file is saying please? I uploaded the bootloader (optiboot_atmega328_08M_038400_D8) and all went OK until I upload my first sketch.
                After that I am getting:

                avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x32
                avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x0f
                avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 3 of 10: not in sync: resp=0xfb
                avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 4 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x32
                avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 5 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x0f
                avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 6 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x73
                avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 7 of 10: not in sync: resp=0xff
                avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 8 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x32
                avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 9 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x0f
                avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 10 of 10: not in sync: resp=0xfb
                

                I have to upload the bootloader again in order to upload the sketch - something is clearly not working. This is my extract from boards.txt:

                BlueBoard.menu.mhz.8Mhz= 8Mhz - internal oscillator D8 LED for atmega328-tqfp
                BlueBoard.menu.mhz.8Mhz.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
                BlueBoard.menu.mhz.8Mhz.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDE
                BlueBoard.menu.mhz.8Mhz.build.f_cpu=8000000L 
                BlueBoard.menu.mhz.8Mhz.upload.speed=38400
                BlueBoard.menu.mhz.8Mhz.bootloader.file=myoptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_08M_038400_D8.hex
                
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                @alexsh1

                Here is my extract for this type:

                32PinBoard.name=atmega328p based - 32 pin TQFP
                
                32PinBoard.upload.tool=arduino:avrdude
                32PinBoard.upload.protocol=arduino
                32PinBoard.upload.maximum_size=32256
                32PinBoard.upload.maximum_data_size=2048
                
                32PinBoard.bootloader.tool=arduino:avrdude
                
                32PinBoard.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
                32PinBoard.bootloader.lock_bits=0x0F
                
                
                32PinBoard.build.core=arduino:arduino
                32PinBoard.build.mcu=atmega328p
                
                32PinBoard.build.board=AVR_GERTSANDERS32PinBoard
                32PinBoard.build.variant=32PinBoard
                
                32PinBoard.menu.bod.4v3=4V3
                32PinBoard.menu.bod.4v3.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x04
                32PinBoard.menu.bod.2v7=2V7
                32PinBoard.menu.bod.2v7.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x05
                32PinBoard.menu.bod.1v8=1V8
                32PinBoard.menu.bod.1v8.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x06
                32PinBoard.menu.bod.off=Disabled
                32PinBoard.menu.bod.off.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x07
                32PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8= 8Mhz - internal - 38K4 - D8
                32PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
                32PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDE
                32PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.build.f_cpu=8000000L 
                32PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.upload.speed=38400
                32PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.bootloader.file=myoptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_08M_038400_D8.hex
                
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                • GertSandersG GertSanders

                  @alexsh1

                  Here is my extract for this type:

                  32PinBoard.name=atmega328p based - 32 pin TQFP
                  
                  32PinBoard.upload.tool=arduino:avrdude
                  32PinBoard.upload.protocol=arduino
                  32PinBoard.upload.maximum_size=32256
                  32PinBoard.upload.maximum_data_size=2048
                  
                  32PinBoard.bootloader.tool=arduino:avrdude
                  
                  32PinBoard.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
                  32PinBoard.bootloader.lock_bits=0x0F
                  
                  
                  32PinBoard.build.core=arduino:arduino
                  32PinBoard.build.mcu=atmega328p
                  
                  32PinBoard.build.board=AVR_GERTSANDERS32PinBoard
                  32PinBoard.build.variant=32PinBoard
                  
                  32PinBoard.menu.bod.4v3=4V3
                  32PinBoard.menu.bod.4v3.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x04
                  32PinBoard.menu.bod.2v7=2V7
                  32PinBoard.menu.bod.2v7.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x05
                  32PinBoard.menu.bod.1v8=1V8
                  32PinBoard.menu.bod.1v8.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x06
                  32PinBoard.menu.bod.off=Disabled
                  32PinBoard.menu.bod.off.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x07
                  32PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8= 8Mhz - internal - 38K4 - D8
                  32PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
                  32PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDE
                  32PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.build.f_cpu=8000000L 
                  32PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.upload.speed=38400
                  32PinBoard.menu.mhz.8Mi-38K4-D8.bootloader.file=myoptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_08M_038400_D8.hex
                  
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                  wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                  #13

                  @GertSanders OK, the issue is in pins_arduino.h in 32PinBoard folder. The standard file is just not good. I'll have to find the right one for tqfp chip.

                  EDIT: copied the "eightanaloginputs" variant in the variant folder, but still can only upload the first sketch after the bootloader, all other uploads are giving me "avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt x of 10: not in sync:"

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                  • alexsh1A alexsh1

                    @GertSanders OK, the issue is in pins_arduino.h in 32PinBoard folder. The standard file is just not good. I'll have to find the right one for tqfp chip.

                    EDIT: copied the "eightanaloginputs" variant in the variant folder, but still can only upload the first sketch after the bootloader, all other uploads are giving me "avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt x of 10: not in sync:"

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                    #14

                    @GertSanders Gert, what pins_arduino.h are you using for this board please? Can you post it here?

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                    • alexsh1A alexsh1

                      @GertSanders Gert, what pins_arduino.h are you using for this board please? Can you post it here?

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                      @alexsh1

                      Here is the pins_arduino.h file for the 32pin TQFP package

                      0_1465854245099_pins_arduino.h

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                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                        @GertSanders Gert, what pins_arduino.h are you using for this board please? Can you post it here?

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                        @alexsh1

                        And here is a ZIP file with my complete atmega328p definitions

                        0_1465854396475_atmega328p.zip

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                        • GertSandersG GertSanders

                          @alexsh1

                          And here is a ZIP file with my complete atmega328p definitions

                          0_1465854396475_atmega328p.zip

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                          @GertSanders Many thanks for your help. This is probably my bad luck, but I have mixed up C1 and R1 mounting them vertically (not horizontally). What a stupid mistake really given that I have checked it a few times. Anyway, now everything is working.

                          FYG, I looked at your pins_arduino.h - this is a standard one and it is not correct. I corrected the following entries:

                          static const uint8_t SS   = 14;
                          static const uint8_t MOSI = 15;
                          static const uint8_t MISO = 16;
                          static const uint8_t SCK  = 17;
                          
                          static const uint8_t SDA = 27;
                          static const uint8_t SCL = 28;
                          #define LED_BUILTIN 8
                          
                          static const uint8_t A0 = 23;
                          static const uint8_t A1 = 24;
                          static const uint8_t A2 = 25;
                          static const uint8_t A3 = 26;
                          static const uint8_t A4 = 27;
                          static const uint8_t A5 = 28;
                          static const uint8_t A6 = 19;
                          static const uint8_t A7 = 22;
                          
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                          • alexsh1A alexsh1

                            @GertSanders Many thanks for your help. This is probably my bad luck, but I have mixed up C1 and R1 mounting them vertically (not horizontally). What a stupid mistake really given that I have checked it a few times. Anyway, now everything is working.

                            FYG, I looked at your pins_arduino.h - this is a standard one and it is not correct. I corrected the following entries:

                            static const uint8_t SS   = 14;
                            static const uint8_t MOSI = 15;
                            static const uint8_t MISO = 16;
                            static const uint8_t SCK  = 17;
                            
                            static const uint8_t SDA = 27;
                            static const uint8_t SCL = 28;
                            #define LED_BUILTIN 8
                            
                            static const uint8_t A0 = 23;
                            static const uint8_t A1 = 24;
                            static const uint8_t A2 = 25;
                            static const uint8_t A3 = 26;
                            static const uint8_t A4 = 27;
                            static const uint8_t A5 = 28;
                            static const uint8_t A6 = 19;
                            static const uint8_t A7 = 22;
                            
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                            @alexsh1
                            OK, I will check also on my side :-) Thanks for the feedback.

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                            • GertSandersG GertSanders

                              @alexsh1
                              OK, I will check also on my side :-) Thanks for the feedback.

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                              @GertSanders No worries! And signing works flawlessly on this node as well with ATSHA204A by the way :)

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                                  0_1466010177286_image.jpeg

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                                  @alexsh1
                                  Double plus good !
                                  As I have no signing capability on my raspberry-turned-gateway I'm glad the hard work to simplify signing was done so well by @tbowmo and @Anticimex. Even without testing it I could assume it would work.

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                                    @alexsh1
                                    Double plus good !
                                    As I have no signing capability on my raspberry-turned-gateway I'm glad the hard work to simplify signing was done so well by @tbowmo and @Anticimex. Even without testing it I could assume it would work.

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                                    @GertSanders You are welcome :) Btw, if you just patch in support to generate random data for a nonce, you can use the soft signing backend on rPi.

                                    Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                    • AnticimexA Anticimex

                                      @GertSanders You are welcome :) Btw, if you just patch in support to generate random data for a nonce, you can use the soft signing backend on rPi.

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                                      @Anticimex
                                      Well that sounds simple, but I'm more a hardware contributer, this is beyond my capabilities :-), especially in unix arena. I manage software developers for a living, so I know how much I do not know.

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                                        Hello guys,

                                        I am about to solder first PCB of this version. Just to be 100% sure, regarding C4 - what is the best value to use 1uF or 10uF, because I can see we can choose.

                                        Regards,
                                        Maciek

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                                        • macieiksM macieiks

                                          Hello guys,

                                          I am about to solder first PCB of this version. Just to be 100% sure, regarding C4 - what is the best value to use 1uF or 10uF, because I can see we can choose.

                                          Regards,
                                          Maciek

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                                          @macieiks

                                          Better to use 10uF. The schematic needs to be updated (still shows 1uF, I use 10uF now).

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