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  • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

    @hozze looks like good troubleshooting, great work.

    Very interesting that it works when uncommenting the MySensors stuff. I think there are some leds blinking features in 2.0 (have not yet moved to 2.0 myself so I don't know more than what I've read in the forum), but I think that is only enabled for gateways.

    Does it help if you remove include <SPI.h>? It looks like SPI is not used so it shouldn't make a difference but you might as well remove it if you aren't using it.

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    @mfalkvidd said:

    there are some leds blinking features in 2.0

    This feature is also present in previous versions and not limited to gateways.
    Pin 2 however is never used for leds as it is the default irq pin for nRF.
    Try with another pin, e.g. 4/5/6 and see if that makes a difference.

    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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      @mfalkvidd : Removed SPI.h , it didn't help though. Thanks for pointers on cleaning up the code :smiley:
      @Yveaux :
      Tried with pin 5 , same result.
      Tried using a different pro mini ( Atmega328 16Mhz 5 v ) got same result , no output on pin :expressionless:

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      • hozzeH hozze

        @mfalkvidd : Removed SPI.h , it didn't help though. Thanks for pointers on cleaning up the code :smiley:
        @Yveaux :
        Tried with pin 5 , same result.
        Tried using a different pro mini ( Atmega328 16Mhz 5 v ) got same result , no output on pin :expressionless:

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        @hozze make sure you don't define MY_LEDS_BLINKING_FEATURE or MY_INCLUSION_MODE_FEATURE, as their pin mappings might interfere with your application.

        http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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          @Yveaux I don't have those defined. Below is my current code.

          #define MY_NODE_ID 1  // node id 
          #define MY_RADIO_NRF24  // enabling support for NRF radio module
          #define NODE_ID 1  // sensor id
          #define SENS_ON 5
          #define VAL_PROBE A0
          #include <MySensors.h>
          
          MyMessage msg(NODE_ID, V_LEVEL); // constructing the msg
          
          void setup()
          {
            pinMode(SENS_ON, OUTPUT);
          }
          
          void presentation()
          {
            present(NODE_ID, S_MOISTURE);  // presenting the sensor 
            sendSketchInfo("SoilSensor", "0.1"); //meta data 
          }
          
          void loop()
          {
            digitalWrite(SENS_ON, HIGH);
            delay(1000); // To check the input voltage of pin 2
            int moisture = analogRead(VAL_PROBE); //measuring the moisture
            send(msg.set(moisture));  // sending the data 
            digitalWrite(SENS_ON, LOW); // turn it off
          //  sleep(1000);  // sleeping for 10 sec
          }
          

          An as soon as I comment it out like below the pin out on 5 works

          #define MY_NODE_ID 1  // node id 
          #define MY_RADIO_NRF24  // enabling support for NRF radio module
          #define NODE_ID 1  // sensor id
          #define SENS_ON 5
          #define VAL_PROBE A0
          //#include <MySensors.h>
          
          MyMessage msg(NODE_ID, V_LEVEL); // constructing the msg
          
          void setup()
          {
            pinMode(SENS_ON, OUTPUT);
          }
          
          void presentation()
          {
          //  present(NODE_ID, S_MOISTURE);  // presenting the sensor 
          //  sendSketchInfo("SoilSensor", "0.1"); //meta data 
          }
          
          void loop()
          {
            digitalWrite(SENS_ON, HIGH);
            delay(1000); // To check the input voltage of pin 2
            int moisture = analogRead(VAL_PROBE); //measuring the moisture  
          // send(msg.set(moisture));  // sending the data 
            digitalWrite(SENS_ON, LOW); // turn it off
          //  sleep(1000);  // sleeping for 10 sec
          }
          
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          • hozzeH hozze

            @Yveaux I don't have those defined. Below is my current code.

            #define MY_NODE_ID 1  // node id 
            #define MY_RADIO_NRF24  // enabling support for NRF radio module
            #define NODE_ID 1  // sensor id
            #define SENS_ON 5
            #define VAL_PROBE A0
            #include <MySensors.h>
            
            MyMessage msg(NODE_ID, V_LEVEL); // constructing the msg
            
            void setup()
            {
              pinMode(SENS_ON, OUTPUT);
            }
            
            void presentation()
            {
              present(NODE_ID, S_MOISTURE);  // presenting the sensor 
              sendSketchInfo("SoilSensor", "0.1"); //meta data 
            }
            
            void loop()
            {
              digitalWrite(SENS_ON, HIGH);
              delay(1000); // To check the input voltage of pin 2
              int moisture = analogRead(VAL_PROBE); //measuring the moisture
              send(msg.set(moisture));  // sending the data 
              digitalWrite(SENS_ON, LOW); // turn it off
            //  sleep(1000);  // sleeping for 10 sec
            }
            

            An as soon as I comment it out like below the pin out on 5 works

            #define MY_NODE_ID 1  // node id 
            #define MY_RADIO_NRF24  // enabling support for NRF radio module
            #define NODE_ID 1  // sensor id
            #define SENS_ON 5
            #define VAL_PROBE A0
            //#include <MySensors.h>
            
            MyMessage msg(NODE_ID, V_LEVEL); // constructing the msg
            
            void setup()
            {
              pinMode(SENS_ON, OUTPUT);
            }
            
            void presentation()
            {
            //  present(NODE_ID, S_MOISTURE);  // presenting the sensor 
            //  sendSketchInfo("SoilSensor", "0.1"); //meta data 
            }
            
            void loop()
            {
              digitalWrite(SENS_ON, HIGH);
              delay(1000); // To check the input voltage of pin 2
              int moisture = analogRead(VAL_PROBE); //measuring the moisture  
            // send(msg.set(moisture));  // sending the data 
              digitalWrite(SENS_ON, LOW); // turn it off
            //  sleep(1000);  // sleeping for 10 sec
            }
            
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            @hozze it's strange that you only measure 3.24V on the output pin if you're using a 5V pro mini. This is IMHO an indication that something is wrong, also when your pin does seem to toggle.

            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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              #12

              I see that output on pro mini Atmega168 3.3v with commented sketch.
              I tried with a different 5v pro mini Atmega368 and I'm getting 5.04V on output pin with commented sketch.

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              • YveauxY Yveaux

                @hozze it's strange that you only measure 3.24V on the output pin if you're using a 5V pro mini. This is IMHO an indication that something is wrong, also when your pin does seem to toggle.

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                TheoL
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                @Yveaux @hozze Are you sure it's a ProMini 5V? Could you measure the voltage on the Raw pin.

                I've received some Pro Mini 3.3V while I actually did order 5V.

                It's just a guess.

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                • TheoLT TheoL

                  @Yveaux @hozze Are you sure it's a ProMini 5V? Could you measure the voltage on the Raw pin.

                  I've received some Pro Mini 3.3V while I actually did order 5V.

                  It's just a guess.

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                  wrote on last edited by
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                  @TheoL I have two pro mini's. I measured the voltage across a output pin ( HIGH ) and GND and it gives me near 5V on one and near 3.3V on another .So it looks as if I do have 5V pro mini.

                  I have tried few other sketches on both, seems they are working fine, I face the specific issue only when including the Mysensor.h library. I will give it a try on a nano that I have and see what happens.

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                  • hozzeH hozze

                    @TheoL I have two pro mini's. I measured the voltage across a output pin ( HIGH ) and GND and it gives me near 5V on one and near 3.3V on another .So it looks as if I do have 5V pro mini.

                    I have tried few other sketches on both, seems they are working fine, I face the specific issue only when including the Mysensor.h library. I will give it a try on a nano that I have and see what happens.

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                    @hozze It was just a guess. I once compiled a sketch for a 5V and uploaded it to a ProMini 3.3V. Took me a while before I noticed my mistake. I just didn;t understand why my Arduino couldn't control my relay boards ;-)

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                    • TheoLT TheoL

                      @hozze It was just a guess. I once compiled a sketch for a 5V and uploaded it to a ProMini 3.3V. Took me a while before I noticed my mistake. I just didn;t understand why my Arduino couldn't control my relay boards ;-)

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                      @TheoL :smiley: me too learning things the hard way.

                      Thanks for all the pointers that you guys are giving . Looks as if I'm in the right place and with a great community,

                      Let me tinker a bit more and see if I can get somewhere, if anyone can give any further info kindly do.

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                      • hozzeH hozze

                        @TheoL :smiley: me too learning things the hard way.

                        Thanks for all the pointers that you guys are giving . Looks as if I'm in the right place and with a great community,

                        Let me tinker a bit more and see if I can get somewhere, if anyone can give any further info kindly do.

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                        @hozze You should enable debugging at the top of your sketch with

                        // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                        #define MY_DEBUG
                        

                        and check the serial monitor to see if the radio is initialising . Maybe the loop part of the program will not run if this does not happen. That could be why commenting out the #include <MySensors.h> allows it to work.

                        You might also use wait instead of delay

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                          @Boots33 , I enabled MY_DEBUG. Sorry if I sound stupid. I have connected the pro mini to computer with USB serial CP2102 for programming/serial debug , at the same time can I power the pro mini + Radio with an external power supply 3.3V ?

                          I did something similar with a ATTINY85 few days back and bricked it :cry: ( Connected it to USB and same time powered it )

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                          • hozzeH hozze

                            @Boots33 , I enabled MY_DEBUG. Sorry if I sound stupid. I have connected the pro mini to computer with USB serial CP2102 for programming/serial debug , at the same time can I power the pro mini + Radio with an external power supply 3.3V ?

                            I did something similar with a ATTINY85 few days back and bricked it :cry: ( Connected it to USB and same time powered it )

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                            @hozze connect gnd from the serial adapter AND the external power supply to gnd on the Arduino. Connect + on the external adapter to the pin you normally use (vcc or raw). Do not connect + from the serial adapter. That's it.

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                            • hozzeH hozze

                              @Boots33 , I enabled MY_DEBUG. Sorry if I sound stupid. I have connected the pro mini to computer with USB serial CP2102 for programming/serial debug , at the same time can I power the pro mini + Radio with an external power supply 3.3V ?

                              I did something similar with a ATTINY85 few days back and bricked it :cry: ( Connected it to USB and same time powered it )

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                              @hozze The whole purpose of a good forum is for people to share ideas and knowledge. So never be worried about asking questions. :)

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                                #21

                                Thanks guys, I will check this out.

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                                  Was away from arduino for over a week with regular job. Tested the code with debug on a new arduino pro mini 3.3v 8Mhz and the below is the output ( please note that the values getting send are random values , i'm still not able to power the sensor with digital Pin )

                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0100
                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:2.0.0
                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0
                                  TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-1 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0:0100
                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=35,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:
                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:SoilSensor
                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0.1
                                  Request registration...
                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=26,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:2
                                  TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-1 s=255,c=3,t=27,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                                  Node registration=1
                                  Init complete, id=1, parent=0, distance=1, registration=1
                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:786
                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:503
                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:410
                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:425
                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:461
                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:539
                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:507
                                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:392
                                  

                                  Looks fine for me , still I can't turn a digital pin On :disappointed:

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                                  • hozzeH hozze

                                    Was away from arduino for over a week with regular job. Tested the code with debug on a new arduino pro mini 3.3v 8Mhz and the below is the output ( please note that the values getting send are random values , i'm still not able to power the sensor with digital Pin )

                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0100
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:2.0.0
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0
                                    TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-1 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0:0100
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=35,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:SoilSensor
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0.1
                                    Request registration...
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=26,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:2
                                    TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-1 s=255,c=3,t=27,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                                    Node registration=1
                                    Init complete, id=1, parent=0, distance=1, registration=1
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:786
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:503
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:410
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:425
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:461
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:539
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:507
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:392
                                    

                                    Looks fine for me , still I can't turn a digital pin On :disappointed:

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                                    Boots33
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                                    @hozze It really should be working. I tried your original above and with a led connected to pin 5 it turns on when the code is run

                                    try the code below with some serial prints to see what happens

                                    // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                                    #define MY_DEBUG
                                    #define MY_NODE_ID 150  // node id 
                                    #define MY_RADIO_NRF24  // enabling support for NRF radio module
                                    
                                    #define NODE_ID 1  // sensor id
                                    #define SENS_ON 5
                                    #define VAL_PROBE A0
                                    #include <MySensors.h>
                                    #define POWER_ON 1  //  value to write to turn on sensor
                                    #define POWER_OFF 0 //  value to write to turn off sensor
                                    MyMessage msg(NODE_ID, V_LEVEL); // constructing the msg
                                    
                                    void setup()
                                    {
                                      pinMode(SENS_ON, OUTPUT);
                                    }
                                    
                                    void presentation()
                                    {
                                      present(NODE_ID, S_MOISTURE);  // presenting the sensor
                                      sendSketchInfo("SoilSensor", "0.1"); //meta data
                                    }
                                    
                                    void loop()
                                    {
                                    
                                    
                                      digitalWrite(SENS_ON, POWER_ON);
                                      Serial.print("Sensor Power on pin "); Serial.print(SENS_ON); Serial.print(" is..."); Serial.println((POWER_ON));
                                      wait(1000); // To check the input voltage of pin 2
                                      int moisture = analogRead(VAL_PROBE); //measuring the moisture
                                      send(msg.set(moisture));  // sending the data
                                      digitalWrite(SENS_ON, POWER_OFF); // turn it off
                                      Serial.print("Sensor Power on pin "); Serial.print(SENS_ON); Serial.print(" is..."); Serial.println((POWER_OFF));
                                    
                                      wait(1000);
                                    }
                                    
                                    

                                    I get an output like this below and the led flashes on and off at 1 second intervals. Maybe try just a led with a 200 to 300 ohm resistor on pin 5 to see what is happening. could the moisture sensor be drawing more than the arduino can give?

                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=1,st=ok:0
                                    TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-150 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:M
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=35,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:SoilSensor
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0.1
                                    Request registration...
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=26,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:2
                                    TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-150 s=255,c=3,t=27,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                                    Node registration=1
                                    Init complete, id=150, parent=0, distance=1, registration=1
                                    Sensor Power on pin 5 is...1
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:511
                                    Sensor Power on pin 5 is...0
                                    Sensor Power on pin 5 is...1
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:313
                                    Sensor Power on pin 5 is...0
                                    Sensor Power on pin 5 is...1
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:254
                                    Sensor Power on pin 5 is...0
                                    Sensor Power on pin 5 is...1
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:326
                                    Sensor Power on pin 5 is...0
                                    Sensor Power on pin 5 is...1
                                    TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:235
                                    Sensor Power on pin 5 is...0
                                    Sensor Power on pin 5 is...1
                                    
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                                      I'm stupid ! @Boots33 the debug info saved me. With debug info I came to notice that the sketch goes into loop part only if the gateway is also connected and available. Stupid me was doing the pin checks just by connecting the sensor and keeping the gateway disconnected , when I had the gateway connected I didn't bother to check the pin out, I was going in the same loop and wasting my and all your valuable time.

                                      Thanks for all your assistance people, you guys are awesome.

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                                        Great to hear you got it going, and don't worry I am sure everyone here ( including me) has there own moments they would rather forget when it comes to writing code. :)

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                                          This sounds like a really good idea.
                                          Can I use this to power like a DS18B20 tempsensor. Would this save power and give my battery powered sensors extended battery life?

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