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  • TheoLT TheoL

    @hozze It was just a guess. I once compiled a sketch for a 5V and uploaded it to a ProMini 3.3V. Took me a while before I noticed my mistake. I just didn;t understand why my Arduino couldn't control my relay boards ;-)

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    #16

    @TheoL :smiley: me too learning things the hard way.

    Thanks for all the pointers that you guys are giving . Looks as if I'm in the right place and with a great community,

    Let me tinker a bit more and see if I can get somewhere, if anyone can give any further info kindly do.

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    • hozzeH hozze

      @TheoL :smiley: me too learning things the hard way.

      Thanks for all the pointers that you guys are giving . Looks as if I'm in the right place and with a great community,

      Let me tinker a bit more and see if I can get somewhere, if anyone can give any further info kindly do.

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      Boots33
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      #17

      @hozze You should enable debugging at the top of your sketch with

      // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
      #define MY_DEBUG
      

      and check the serial monitor to see if the radio is initialising . Maybe the loop part of the program will not run if this does not happen. That could be why commenting out the #include <MySensors.h> allows it to work.

      You might also use wait instead of delay

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        @Boots33 , I enabled MY_DEBUG. Sorry if I sound stupid. I have connected the pro mini to computer with USB serial CP2102 for programming/serial debug , at the same time can I power the pro mini + Radio with an external power supply 3.3V ?

        I did something similar with a ATTINY85 few days back and bricked it :cry: ( Connected it to USB and same time powered it )

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        • hozzeH hozze

          @Boots33 , I enabled MY_DEBUG. Sorry if I sound stupid. I have connected the pro mini to computer with USB serial CP2102 for programming/serial debug , at the same time can I power the pro mini + Radio with an external power supply 3.3V ?

          I did something similar with a ATTINY85 few days back and bricked it :cry: ( Connected it to USB and same time powered it )

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          @hozze connect gnd from the serial adapter AND the external power supply to gnd on the Arduino. Connect + on the external adapter to the pin you normally use (vcc or raw). Do not connect + from the serial adapter. That's it.

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          • hozzeH hozze

            @Boots33 , I enabled MY_DEBUG. Sorry if I sound stupid. I have connected the pro mini to computer with USB serial CP2102 for programming/serial debug , at the same time can I power the pro mini + Radio with an external power supply 3.3V ?

            I did something similar with a ATTINY85 few days back and bricked it :cry: ( Connected it to USB and same time powered it )

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            Boots33
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            @hozze The whole purpose of a good forum is for people to share ideas and knowledge. So never be worried about asking questions. :)

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              #21

              Thanks guys, I will check this out.

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                hozze
                wrote on last edited by
                #22

                Was away from arduino for over a week with regular job. Tested the code with debug on a new arduino pro mini 3.3v 8Mhz and the below is the output ( please note that the values getting send are random values , i'm still not able to power the sensor with digital Pin )

                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0100
                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:2.0.0
                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0
                TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-1 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0:0100
                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=35,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:
                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:SoilSensor
                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0.1
                Request registration...
                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=26,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:2
                TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-1 s=255,c=3,t=27,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                Node registration=1
                Init complete, id=1, parent=0, distance=1, registration=1
                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:786
                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:503
                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:410
                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:425
                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:461
                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:539
                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:507
                TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:392
                

                Looks fine for me , still I can't turn a digital pin On :disappointed:

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                • hozzeH hozze

                  Was away from arduino for over a week with regular job. Tested the code with debug on a new arduino pro mini 3.3v 8Mhz and the below is the output ( please note that the values getting send are random values , i'm still not able to power the sensor with digital Pin )

                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0100
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:2.0.0
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0
                  TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-1 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0:0100
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=35,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:SoilSensor
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0.1
                  Request registration...
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=26,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:2
                  TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-1 s=255,c=3,t=27,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                  Node registration=1
                  Init complete, id=1, parent=0, distance=1, registration=1
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:786
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:503
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:410
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:425
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:461
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:539
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:507
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 1-1-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:392
                  

                  Looks fine for me , still I can't turn a digital pin On :disappointed:

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                  Boots33
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #23

                  @hozze It really should be working. I tried your original above and with a led connected to pin 5 it turns on when the code is run

                  try the code below with some serial prints to see what happens

                  // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                  #define MY_DEBUG
                  #define MY_NODE_ID 150  // node id 
                  #define MY_RADIO_NRF24  // enabling support for NRF radio module
                  
                  #define NODE_ID 1  // sensor id
                  #define SENS_ON 5
                  #define VAL_PROBE A0
                  #include <MySensors.h>
                  #define POWER_ON 1  //  value to write to turn on sensor
                  #define POWER_OFF 0 //  value to write to turn off sensor
                  MyMessage msg(NODE_ID, V_LEVEL); // constructing the msg
                  
                  void setup()
                  {
                    pinMode(SENS_ON, OUTPUT);
                  }
                  
                  void presentation()
                  {
                    present(NODE_ID, S_MOISTURE);  // presenting the sensor
                    sendSketchInfo("SoilSensor", "0.1"); //meta data
                  }
                  
                  void loop()
                  {
                  
                  
                    digitalWrite(SENS_ON, POWER_ON);
                    Serial.print("Sensor Power on pin "); Serial.print(SENS_ON); Serial.print(" is..."); Serial.println((POWER_ON));
                    wait(1000); // To check the input voltage of pin 2
                    int moisture = analogRead(VAL_PROBE); //measuring the moisture
                    send(msg.set(moisture));  // sending the data
                    digitalWrite(SENS_ON, POWER_OFF); // turn it off
                    Serial.print("Sensor Power on pin "); Serial.print(SENS_ON); Serial.print(" is..."); Serial.println((POWER_OFF));
                  
                    wait(1000);
                  }
                  
                  

                  I get an output like this below and the led flashes on and off at 1 second intervals. Maybe try just a led with a 200 to 300 ohm resistor on pin 5 to see what is happening. could the moisture sensor be drawing more than the arduino can give?

                  TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=1,st=ok:0
                  TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-150 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:M
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=35,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:SoilSensor
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0.1
                  Request registration...
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=26,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:2
                  TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-150 s=255,c=3,t=27,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                  Node registration=1
                  Init complete, id=150, parent=0, distance=1, registration=1
                  Sensor Power on pin 5 is...1
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:511
                  Sensor Power on pin 5 is...0
                  Sensor Power on pin 5 is...1
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:313
                  Sensor Power on pin 5 is...0
                  Sensor Power on pin 5 is...1
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:254
                  Sensor Power on pin 5 is...0
                  Sensor Power on pin 5 is...1
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:326
                  Sensor Power on pin 5 is...0
                  Sensor Power on pin 5 is...1
                  TSP:MSG:SEND 150-150-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=37,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:235
                  Sensor Power on pin 5 is...0
                  Sensor Power on pin 5 is...1
                  
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                    #24

                    I'm stupid ! @Boots33 the debug info saved me. With debug info I came to notice that the sketch goes into loop part only if the gateway is also connected and available. Stupid me was doing the pin checks just by connecting the sensor and keeping the gateway disconnected , when I had the gateway connected I didn't bother to check the pin out, I was going in the same loop and wasting my and all your valuable time.

                    Thanks for all your assistance people, you guys are awesome.

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                      Great to hear you got it going, and don't worry I am sure everyone here ( including me) has there own moments they would rather forget when it comes to writing code. :)

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                        #26

                        This sounds like a really good idea.
                        Can I use this to power like a DS18B20 tempsensor. Would this save power and give my battery powered sensors extended battery life?

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                        • xydixX xydix

                          This sounds like a really good idea.
                          Can I use this to power like a DS18B20 tempsensor. Would this save power and give my battery powered sensors extended battery life?

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                          wrote on last edited by bjacobse
                          #27

                          @xydix
                          Arduino using Atmega can supply max 40mA per pin, and in total max 100mA.
                          DS18B20 seems to use max 1,5mA
                          so yes this will work
                          After searching on the net.
                          https://github.com/nathanchantrell/TinyTX/blob/master/TinyTX_DS18B20/TinyTX_DS18B20.ino

                          The part for the power on, read, power off is below (taken from the above link):

                          void loop() {

                          digitalWrite(ONE_WIRE_POWER, HIGH); // turn DS18B20 sensor on

                          //Sleepy::loseSomeTime(5); // Allow 5ms for the sensor to be ready
                          delay(5); // The above doesn't seem to work for everyone (why?)

                          sensors.begin(); //start up temp sensor
                          sensors.requestTemperatures(); // Get the temperature
                          tinytx.temp=(sensors.getTempCByIndex(0)*100); // Read first sensor and convert to integer, reversed at receiving end

                          digitalWrite(ONE_WIRE_POWER, LOW); // turn DS18B20 off

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