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NRF24L01+PA+LNA distance problem

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    fleinze
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    #16

    Sometimes we get shitty modules from china:
    https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1153/we-are-mostly-using-fake-nrf24l01-s-but-worse-fakes-are-emerging
    I made good experiance with these rather expensive ones:
    https://de.aliexpress.com/item/2pcs-RF2401F20-2-4G-high-integrated-RF-module-with-Nordic-s-RF-chip-nRF24L01-For-Free/32302870943.html
    But even with these I had to be very careful about antenna placement

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      Another RF scanner with mini OLED 0.96 display
      https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2777178-Very-cheap-Arduino-based-2-4-GHz-band-monitor

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        @flopp

        Whole system is Li-Ion battery powered system with solar.
        Gateway has 3S2P Li-Ion battery with proper solar panel. Battery voltage never go under 11V.
        Node has 1x18650 Li-Ion battery with small solar panel.
        Node goes sleep mode for 10 minutes then wake up and send data within 10 second.

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        @yd-kim said:

        @flopp

        Whole system is Li-Ion battery powered system with solar.
        Gateway has 3S2P Li-Ion battery with proper solar panel. Battery voltage never go under 11V.
        Node has 1x18650 Li-Ion battery with small solar panel.
        Node goes sleep mode for 10 minutes then wake up and send data within 10 second.

        What kind of Arduino do you use?

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          @yd-kim said:

          @flopp

          Whole system is Li-Ion battery powered system with solar.
          Gateway has 3S2P Li-Ion battery with proper solar panel. Battery voltage never go under 11V.
          Node has 1x18650 Li-Ion battery with small solar panel.
          Node goes sleep mode for 10 minutes then wake up and send data within 10 second.

          What kind of Arduino do you use?

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          yd kim
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          #19

          @flopp
          Gateway : ESP8266 ( use 3A switching step down power module)
          Node : Arduino pro mini 3V ( Arduino use battery power directly and nRF24L01 use 3.3V LDO 800mA one with 0.3V drop down )

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            gloob
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            #20

            Why don't you connect the NRF also directly to the battery?

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            • G gloob

              Why don't you connect the NRF also directly to the battery?

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              yd kim
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              #21

              @gloob
              nRF module should not use over 3.6V and Li-Ion battery is 4.2V when it is full charged.

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                flopp
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                #22

                Quick fix may be to add resend if Failed.

                See here

                https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3355/count-car-starts/19

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                • yd kimY yd kim

                  @gloob
                  nRF module should not use over 3.6V and Li-Ion battery is 4.2V when it is full charged.

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                  @yd-kim said:

                  @gloob
                  nRF module should not use over 3.6V and Li-Ion battery is 4.2V when it is full charged.

                  I thought you are also powering the Arduino directly from the battery over the 3.3V pin.

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                  • F fleinze

                    Sometimes we get shitty modules from china:
                    https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/1153/we-are-mostly-using-fake-nrf24l01-s-but-worse-fakes-are-emerging
                    I made good experiance with these rather expensive ones:
                    https://de.aliexpress.com/item/2pcs-RF2401F20-2-4G-high-integrated-RF-module-with-Nordic-s-RF-chip-nRF24L01-For-Free/32302870943.html
                    But even with these I had to be very careful about antenna placement

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                    yd kim
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                    @fleinze

                    I keep reading the article.. interesting
                    The module which on the link is too expensive for my project;;

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                      @yd-kim said:

                      @gloob
                      nRF module should not use over 3.6V and Li-Ion battery is 4.2V when it is full charged.

                      I thought you are also powering the Arduino directly from the battery over the 3.3V pin.

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                      yd kim
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                      @gloob
                      Arduino doesn't matter up to 5V so I don't mind for arduino.
                      If I feed same power to arduino, I need bigger LDO and also less efficiency.

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