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  • gohanG Offline
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    #6

    Well I probably confused with another Arduino board 😌

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    • alowhumA alowhum

      Cool!

      • Cheaper
      • Faster
      • More memory
      • More storage
      • 5v and lots of 3V lines

      Any downsides? How stable is the 3V line? Does it use more power?

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      #7

      @alowhum I use the same board as dev board and it works well, I had no problems with it using STM32's own libraries.
      It has I2C, SPI, UART, even USB and 5V-tolerant inputs and so on.
      I like it. :)

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        but for a battery powered sleeping node it is better a mini pro that hasn't the usb chip that drains power, right?

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          #9

          @gohan
          This ST32 board doesn't have any usb chip, and doesn't need one, because the mcu already includes this feature.

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            This board just keeps getting better and better.

            Is there a way to try out this new functionality? I coincidentally could really use a 3.3 volt Arduino with micro-USB port.

            I don't like that the Pro Mini doesn't have a micro usb port for powering it. The Digispark Pro does have it, but I don't know if MySensors supports it. More importantly, it's twice as expensive.

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            • alowhumA alowhum

              This board just keeps getting better and better.

              Is there a way to try out this new functionality? I coincidentally could really use a 3.3 volt Arduino with micro-USB port.

              I don't like that the Pro Mini doesn't have a micro usb port for powering it. The Digispark Pro does have it, but I don't know if MySensors supports it. More importantly, it's twice as expensive.

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              @alowhum a bit off topic, but I've bought a few micro usb connectors to be able to use the ubiquitous phone chargers to power Pro Minis.

              To try out the new functionality, order a few STM32. Then use the master MySensors branch from github. https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/pull/795 will probably have been merged by the time your boards arrive :) If they haven't you can use tekka's branch.

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                #12

                Also, little sidenote, it's low power mcu i think, maybe not pico like 328p. And i don't know about the mysensors sleep functions (not implemented yet i think).
                But that said, it's a nice competitive alternative, like others ARM mcus which are very versatile :yum: (a bit more advanced than simple 8bit 328p) .

                Big thx to @tekka for his work on this nice addition, you rock :+1:

                Digispark pro may run mysensors, for very simple, no big memory task as it's using a smaller mcu than 328p for instance (i don't remember if attiny85 implementation has already been released).

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                • scalzS scalz

                  Also, little sidenote, it's low power mcu i think, maybe not pico like 328p. And i don't know about the mysensors sleep functions (not implemented yet i think).
                  But that said, it's a nice competitive alternative, like others ARM mcus which are very versatile :yum: (a bit more advanced than simple 8bit 328p) .

                  Big thx to @tekka for his work on this nice addition, you rock :+1:

                  Digispark pro may run mysensors, for very simple, no big memory task as it's using a smaller mcu than 328p for instance (i don't remember if attiny85 implementation has already been released).

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                  wrote on last edited by alowhum
                  #13

                  Cool! I'll try that with the one I have already. In my sketches I try to make a non-sleep option, so the lack of sleep should not be a problem. Heh, funny sentence.

                  Will I also need to install the STM32 library?

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                    #14

                    @alowhum
                    this is starting to be a problem for me..the lack of sleep :smile:

                    yes, i think you need to follow the howto you linked (for installing the core files)

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                    • gohanG gohan

                      but for a battery powered sleeping node it is better a mini pro that hasn't the usb chip that drains power, right?

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                      #15

                      @gohan Regarding of battery powered system...

                      From STM32CubeMX power consumption calculator, it has the following current requirements:

                      In RUN mode:

                      • at 72MHz bus frequency, it needs 27 mA
                      • at 16MHz and HSI PLL, it needs 6.8 mA
                      • at 8 MHz and HSI, it needs 4 mA
                      • at 1 MHz and HSI, it needs 900 μA
                      • at 125 kHz and HSI, it needs 480 μA

                      In STANDBY mode with all clocks off, it needs 2 μA


                      In SLEEP mode:

                      • at 125 kHz bus frequency and HSI, it needs 410 μA
                      • at 1 MHz bus freq. and HSI, it needs 440 uA
                      • at 8 MHz, it needs 600 μA

                      Enabling the following peripherals, additional consumptions are (as for example):

                      • GPIOA needs 833.75 nA
                      • GPIOD needs 816.25 nA
                      • I2C needs 1.25 μA
                      • SPI1 needs 590 nA
                      • TIMER1 needs 2.92 μA
                      • TIMER2 needs 4.06 μA
                      • TIMER4 needs 3.99 μA
                      • USART1 needs 1.49 μA
                      • USART3 needs 1.53 μA
                      • USB needs 2.22 μA
                      • Window watchdog needs 312.5 nA
                      • Independent watchdog needs 1.71 μA
                      • ADC1 needs 162.19 μA

                      These are just some examples, not all possibilities and frequencies are listed here...

                      There are also lower power STM32 series anyway.

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                        #16

                        I'm curious because I saw these boards few months ago but I figured that community support was still in the early stages so I kind of didn't pay much attention to them and I preferred old but tested technology 😁

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                          The patch has just been added to the Mysensors Development branch, so it's easier to try out.

                          I've created a guide on how to get started on the SMT32Duino forum.

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                            Heh, the STM32 doesn't have a digital pin 2 it seems. Where is the NRF supposed to connect to instead?

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                            • alowhumA alowhum

                              Heh, the STM32 doesn't have a digital pin 2 it seems. Where is the NRF supposed to connect to instead?

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                              @alowhum looks like PA3: https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/pull/795/commits/ac432acca3d7c58eb7c8f569dc562860605ea09f#diff-58c572256858a37808c4ebd0922b4060R50

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                                That's odd. I thought I had it just figured out. I'm about to test this at the top of a sketch:

                                #define MY_RF24_CE_PIN PB0
                                #define MY_RF24_CS_PIN PA4
                                #define MY_RF24_MOSI_PIN PA7
                                #define MY_RF24_MISO_PIN PA6
                                #define MY_RF24_SCK_PIN PA5
                                #define MY_RF24_IRQ_PIN PB10

                                The fun thing is all the pins are almost in a row. Almost. And if the IRQ is A3, then one more pin would line up..

                                According to this image the IRQ is pin PB10 though:
                                http://wiki.stm32duino.com/images/a/ae/Bluepillpinout.gif

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                                • alowhumA alowhum

                                  That's odd. I thought I had it just figured out. I'm about to test this at the top of a sketch:

                                  #define MY_RF24_CE_PIN PB0
                                  #define MY_RF24_CS_PIN PA4
                                  #define MY_RF24_MOSI_PIN PA7
                                  #define MY_RF24_MISO_PIN PA6
                                  #define MY_RF24_SCK_PIN PA5
                                  #define MY_RF24_IRQ_PIN PB10

                                  The fun thing is all the pins are almost in a row. Almost. And if the IRQ is A3, then one more pin would line up..

                                  According to this image the IRQ is pin PB10 though:
                                  http://wiki.stm32duino.com/images/a/ae/Bluepillpinout.gif

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                                  @alowhum sorry I misread your question. Don't know why, but I didn't see that you were talking about the NRF.

                                  IRQ is not used for the NRF on Arduino, so I supposed it is not used for STM32 either. There is nothing about IRQ in https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/pull/795/commits/ac432acca3d7c58eb7c8f569dc562860605ea09f#diff-cf14b6301beb3a4dbaded9b95bb190feR487

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                                    Really? On the Arduino nano I'm always connecting it to pin 2. It says to do so in the guide?

                                    Anyway, I haven't been able to get it to work. Perhaps some of the developers van shed some light on how it's supposed to work?

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                                      @alowhum

                                      Its first in recent (develop branch?) that interrupt usage with nRF24L01 have been enabled, and only in certain scenarios.

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                                      • alowhumA alowhum

                                        Really? On the Arduino nano I'm always connecting it to pin 2. It says to do so in the guide?

                                        Anyway, I haven't been able to get it to work. Perhaps some of the developers van shed some light on how it's supposed to work?

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                                        wrote on last edited by tekka
                                        #24

                                        @alowhum The MySensors RF24 driver is a polling driver (unless RX queuing is enabled), hence no IRQ required.

                                        I've successfully tested the RF24 radio with this wiring on a BluePill board using MySensors 2.2.0-beta:

                                        CLK -> PA5
                                        MISO -> PA6
                                        MOSI ->PA7
                                        CSN -> PA4
                                        CE -> PB0

                                        do not forget to set:

                                        #define MY_RF24_CE_PIN PB0
                                        
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                                          Hmm, that's pretty much what I had.

                                          Could you perhaps share your example sketch?

                                          // It's working now! Turns out I had to set the radio to low power..

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