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  • gohanG Offline
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    gohan
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    #15

    do you see any message in the GW log when node is trying to connect? Because if not it may be a problem ot the radio module of the note not sending correctly, one of the radio modules could be a fake module and very poor quality. In the beginning I bought some modules that had a blob instead of an IC on the module and they were all not working. I can suggest to try some sample sketches to check if modules are communicating and also you could give a try to mysensors library from development branch

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      Jan Hilbrandt
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      #16

      No that is the full log from the GW. Damn...all my radiomodules have this blob like this one on the left picture.
      I have also tested other NRF receivers (with the blob)

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        #17

        Those are the kind that normally doesn't work. Return them if you can or you can just dump them and get the good ones (look at the threads about genuine NRF24)

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        • gohanG gohan

          You don't have to define a parent ID in your case.

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          Tommas
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          #18

          @gohan

          Oh ok. Thanks.

          I tried to attach 100uF capacitor but the results are same.(no reply) . The node ID is defined, the parent ID isnt.
          It seems that im out of ideas. I wait for the new nrf24 without pa lna.
          Im attaching some pictures about the project.
          Should i foil the nrf24 modul?

          https://cloud.freeforall.hu/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=1f73fddc20c6d9a2560f88f78affd499

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          • gohanG Offline
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            gohan
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            #19

            I can't see the link but I trying to foil the radio module could be an idea, as I wrote a few posts earlier

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            • gohanG gohan

              I can't see the link but I trying to foil the radio module could be an idea, as I wrote a few posts earlier

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              Tommas
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              #20

              @gohan

              Dear gohan!

              Sorry, it is a private home server and it was in maintenance mode when you were trying to connect. Now it should be working.
              (The new nrf24 have just arrived so im going to try these as soon as i can)

              Best regards
              T

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              • gohanG gohan

                I can't see the link but I trying to foil the radio module could be an idea, as I wrote a few posts earlier

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                Tommas
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                #21

                @gohan

                Dear Gohan!

                I have just tried the new nrf24 standard, and it works!
                It seems that the GND should be common (im newbie).
                I would like to test further with the pa+lna version, but....
                I have an other question.
                I would like to power the board with 5V from the power module 5V output, and i would like to program the board via USB at the same time. How should i connect the power module to the board?

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                  #22

                  why do you want to do that? And yes, GND is normally common

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                  • gohanG gohan

                    why do you want to do that? And yes, GND is normally common

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                    Tommas
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                    #23

                    @gohan

                    Dear Gohan!
                    Everyone suggests that if you use pa+lna version you should power it from external regulated 3.3 V because the arduino clones 3.3V isnt strong enough. So i bought externaI power source.... i have figured out today that i can common the power source's gnd with the arduino gnd. It is working....

                    What is last that i would like to power the arduino uno from power module 5V and connect it to my computer same time... i dont know how to do it.

                    I have tested the two nrf24 pa+lna and these arent working together only. Separately is OK.

                    I will go with the standard nrf24 , make it working than i will try to buy branded nrf24 pa+lna.
                    Have you got favourite brand for cheaper electronic parts?

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                    • gohanG Offline
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                      #24

                      Not really an external power source, you can just use the 5V output from the arduino and use a voltage regulator to 3.3v.
                      I bought some of these http://www.gearbest.com/transmitters-receivers-module/pp_453011.html and I am very happy as they allow for quick swap of the radio and already have caps

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                      • gohanG gohan

                        Not really an external power source, you can just use the 5V output from the arduino and use a voltage regulator to 3.3v.
                        I bought some of these http://www.gearbest.com/transmitters-receivers-module/pp_453011.html and I am very happy as they allow for quick swap of the radio and already have caps

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                        Tommas
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                        #25

                        @gohan

                        Dear gohan!

                        Thank you for your help. I will buy from ebay this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/200960749614

                        And im planning that i will buy a shielded nrf24 pa+lna .
                        Today im installing an openhab and try to transfer the datas from gateway to the openhab...

                        What projects have you done already?

                        Best regards
                        T

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                          gohan
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                          #26

                          The one on ebay it's missing the capacitor so remember to add one on the radio

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                          • gohanG gohan

                            The one on ebay it's missing the capacitor so remember to add one on the radio

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                            #27

                            @gohan

                            Oh! I missed that. I will look for another one with cap.

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                            • gohanG gohan

                              The one on ebay it's missing the capacitor so remember to add one on the radio

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                              @gohan
                              According to this site, the ebay-modules have also caps included. There are also some sellers providing according schematics.
                              I myselfe use a couple of them (also with +pa+nla-modules) and never ran into bigger trouble.

                              Anyone with different experiences?

                              Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                                @gohan
                                According to this site, the ebay-modules have also caps included. There are also some sellers providing according schematics.
                                I myselfe use a couple of them (also with +pa+nla-modules) and never ran into bigger trouble.

                                Anyone with different experiences?

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                                Tommas
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                                @rejoe2

                                Dear rejoe2!

                                Thank You for the infos.
                                Than i will buy two of this ebay version.

                                Best regards,
                                T

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                                  gohan
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                                  wrote on last edited by gohan
                                  #30

                                  I probably missed that because I never seen the caps being specified

                                  If they work, good find

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                                  • gohanG gohan

                                    I probably missed that because I never seen the caps being specified

                                    If they work, good find

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                                    @gohan

                                    On ebay, i cant find the bypass capacitor in the specs. I have written to a seller asked about it. I will report to you about the answer.

                                    I have tried once again the two high power nrf24 pa+lna (I put foil onto these) but these dont work. I think these are broken or very very bad ones.

                                    Could you suggest to me a seller who sells High power nrf24 which ones you have got good experinces?

                                    Thanks,
                                    T

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                                      @gohan

                                      On ebay, i cant find the bypass capacitor in the specs. I have written to a seller asked about it. I will report to you about the answer.

                                      I have tried once again the two high power nrf24 pa+lna (I put foil onto these) but these dont work. I think these are broken or very very bad ones.

                                      Could you suggest to me a seller who sells High power nrf24 which ones you have got good experinces?

                                      Thanks,
                                      T

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                                      @Tommas
                                      The caps are small SMD parts, explicitely mentioned you may find them on ebay here. (This is a 10PIN-Version, but as you see, despite the number of PINs, it's similar to the 8-PIN version you find everywhere.

                                      But to be honest: I never saw the necessity to make measurements on this topic...

                                      Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                                      • rejoe2R rejoe2

                                        @Tommas
                                        The caps are small SMD parts, explicitely mentioned you may find them on ebay here. (This is a 10PIN-Version, but as you see, despite the number of PINs, it's similar to the 8-PIN version you find everywhere.

                                        But to be honest: I never saw the necessity to make measurements on this topic...

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                                        Tommas
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                                        #33

                                        @rejoe2

                                        Hi rejoe2!

                                        What kind of nrf24 do you use, and where did you buy these?
                                        I think that you use capacitor as well, and stable 3.3V dont you?
                                        Do you think that this shield is good for my node? It would be very good if i didnt have to use cables for nrf24....
                                        https://www.itead.cc/wiki/Arduino_Nano_IO_shield

                                        Best regards
                                        T

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                                          gohan
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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #34

                                          Get some easy pcb instead or other similar solution 😀

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