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💬 MySensors NRF5 Platform

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  • rmtuckerR rmtucker

    @d00616
    So is this a mysensors issue and will you rase this issue please.

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    d00616
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    #42

    @rmtucker said in 💬 MySensors NRF5 Platform:

    So is this a mysensors issue and will you rase this issue please.

    I have ask the other members of the core team if someone can take a look at this issue. I have time to do this not earlier than Sunday.

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    • NeverDieN NeverDie

      @rmtucker said in 💬 MySensors NRF5 Platform:

      there are quite a few that have the same problem.

      Yes, the ones I noticed that seem to have the problem are: motion, smoke, dimmer, cover, scene controller, and, of course, multimeter. The rest compiled.

      I don't know the answers to your other good questions, but AFAIK @d00616 appears to be the point man. Perhaps @d00616 can comment?

      Also, if you're not already aware of it, @rmtucker I invite you to join in on the constantly evolving discussion at: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/6961/nrf5-bluetooth-action/498

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      #43

      @NeverDie
      Just wondering about mysensors debug.
      If you have the jlink plugged in for programming but you also want to see the mysensors debug.
      Where is the ftdi adapter plugged in to for tx and rx ?
      And also i suspect that the vcc is not connected on the ftdi adapter because the jlink is supplying the board?
      Oh so many questions??

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      • rmtuckerR rmtucker

        @NeverDie
        Just wondering about mysensors debug.
        If you have the jlink plugged in for programming but you also want to see the mysensors debug.
        Where is the ftdi adapter plugged in to for tx and rx ?
        And also i suspect that the vcc is not connected on the ftdi adapter because the jlink is supplying the board?
        Oh so many questions??

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        wrote on last edited by NeverDie
        #44

        @rmtucker said in 💬 MySensors NRF5 Platform:

        Where is the ftdi adapter plugged in to for tx and rx ?

        That's determined by the "board" that you tell the compiler you are using. For example, on the nRF52 DK, the Rx pin is on P0.06. Presently, for simplicity, when I compile for the Ebyte module, I tell the Arduino IDE that it's an nRF52 DK, so then Rx is also on P0.06 and Tx is on P0.08.
        A more advanced way of doing it is to tell the Arduino IDE that the board is a "MyNrf5Board nRF52832", and then you can use d00616's method of pin mapping to make the Rx pin whichever of the mappable pins you want. That's a bit more involved though.

        And also i suspect that the vcc is not connected on the ftdi adapter because the jlink is supplying the board?

        Right. For old fashioned debugging using serial.println(), just Rx and GND is all I use.

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        • NeverDieN NeverDie

          @rmtucker said in 💬 MySensors NRF5 Platform:

          Where is the ftdi adapter plugged in to for tx and rx ?

          That's determined by the "board" that you tell the compiler you are using. For example, on the nRF52 DK, the Rx pin is on P0.06. Presently, for simplicity, when I compile for the Ebyte module, I tell the Arduino IDE that it's an nRF52 DK, so then Rx is also on P0.06 and Tx is on P0.08.
          A more advanced way of doing it is to tell the Arduino IDE that the board is a "MyNrf5Board nRF52832", and then you can use d00616's method of pin mapping to make the Rx pin whichever of the mappable pins you want. That's a bit more involved though.

          And also i suspect that the vcc is not connected on the ftdi adapter because the jlink is supplying the board?

          Right. For old fashioned debugging using serial.println(), just Rx and GND is all I use.

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          wrote on last edited by rmtucker
          #45

          @NeverDie
          Disappointed so far with the NRF51822.:frowning:
          Basically it can not connect to any i2c sensors which mysensors relies on heavily.
          So not a lot can be done with it.
          It does integrate with mysensors well though,proved that with mockmysensors sketch.
          I dare not even try the spi interface.
          I would advise not trying this till the i2c problems are sorted out.
          At the moment it is running Blinky and thats it.

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          • rmtuckerR rmtucker

            @NeverDie
            Disappointed so far with the NRF51822.:frowning:
            Basically it can not connect to any i2c sensors which mysensors relies on heavily.
            So not a lot can be done with it.
            It does integrate with mysensors well though,proved that with mockmysensors sketch.
            I dare not even try the spi interface.
            I would advise not trying this till the i2c problems are sorted out.
            At the moment it is running Blinky and thats it.

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            Anticimex
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            #46

            @rmtucker can't you just bit bang the I2C sensors? Should not be any mcu incapable of that. There should be plenty drivers available that implement a bit banged I2C driver.

            Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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            • AnticimexA Anticimex

              @rmtucker can't you just bit bang the I2C sensors? Should not be any mcu incapable of that. There should be plenty drivers available that implement a bit banged I2C driver.

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              wrote on last edited by rmtucker
              #47

              @Anticimex
              I managed to get a nokia 5110 display connected and working using the u8glib and softspi.
              I can not get the easier to use adafruit library to compile though.
              Nor have i been able to find a Soft i2c library that will compile without errors.
              So i am afraid i2c is still a non starter.

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                scalz
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                wrote on last edited by scalz
                #48

                @rmtucker said in 💬 MySensors NRF5 Platform:

                So i am afraid i2c is still a non starter.

                maybe try this one https://github.com/felias-fogg/SlowSoftWire
                I don't use it, but it compiles fine for nrf52. I already tested it a while ago, and it worked for me.

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                • scalzS scalz

                  @rmtucker said in 💬 MySensors NRF5 Platform:

                  So i am afraid i2c is still a non starter.

                  maybe try this one https://github.com/felias-fogg/SlowSoftWire
                  I don't use it, but it compiles fine for nrf52. I already tested it a while ago, and it worked for me.

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                  #49

                  @scalz
                  my head is battered with this.
                  tried the library you mentioned and it compiled fine but still gave spurious readings.
                  so i plugged the htu21d back in to a nano and used the sparkfun library demo.
                  the readings were perfect.
                  so frustrated with this because all my nodes use i2c sensors.

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                  • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                    @scalz
                    my head is battered with this.
                    tried the library you mentioned and it compiled fine but still gave spurious readings.
                    so i plugged the htu21d back in to a nano and used the sparkfun library demo.
                    the readings were perfect.
                    so frustrated with this because all my nodes use i2c sensors.

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                    wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                    #50

                    @rmtucker
                    Stupid question, but are your i2c sensors getting all the voltage that they need? After all, a nano runs at 5v, right? I know that some of the TH i2c sensors include voltage regulators, which would drop the voltage even further. If necessary, those could be removed. That's what I generally do.

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                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                      @rmtucker
                      Stupid question, but are your i2c sensors getting all the voltage that they need? After all, a nano runs at 5v, right? I know that some of the TH i2c sensors include voltage regulators, which would drop the voltage even further. If necessary, those could be removed. That's what I generally do.

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                      #51

                      @NeverDie
                      Yes They are 3.3v sensors.
                      What we need is someone else using nrf51822 and i2c sensors that can shine some light.

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                      • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                        @NeverDie
                        Yes They are 3.3v sensors.
                        What we need is someone else using nrf51822 and i2c sensors that can shine some light.

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #52

                        @rmtucker said in 💬 MySensors NRF5 Platform:

                        @NeverDie
                        Yes They are 3.3v sensors.
                        What we need is someone else using nrf51822 and i2c sensors that can shine some light.

                        I'll try soon, hopefully I'll have time tomorrow, my nrf51 module is soldered on a breadboard. I need to make the promised tests on the nrf52 too ...

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                        • Nca78N Nca78

                          @rmtucker said in 💬 MySensors NRF5 Platform:

                          @NeverDie
                          Yes They are 3.3v sensors.
                          What we need is someone else using nrf51822 and i2c sensors that can shine some light.

                          I'll try soon, hopefully I'll have time tomorrow, my nrf51 module is soldered on a breadboard. I need to make the promised tests on the nrf52 too ...

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #53

                          @Nca78
                          Just an observation after many hours of tinkering.
                          There is no problem reading one byte back from i2c,like when doing an i2c scan.
                          It comes back with the address of the htu21d no problem.
                          But if you try to read 3 bytes which is what you do when reading the temp etc,it goes T*TS up.

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                          • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                            @Nca78
                            Just an observation after many hours of tinkering.
                            There is no problem reading one byte back from i2c,like when doing an i2c scan.
                            It comes back with the address of the htu21d no problem.
                            But if you try to read 3 bytes which is what you do when reading the temp etc,it goes T*TS up.

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #54

                            Well guys after all that :frowning:
                            I had not installed the development version from git.:angry:
                            After installling the development version the i2c is working fine.
                            Suprised no one else has done this??

                            From git (for core development)
                            
                            Follow steps from Board Manager section above
                            cd <SKETCHBOOK>, where <SKETCHBOOK> is your Arduino Sketch folder:
                            OS X: ~/Documents/Arduino
                            Linux: ~/Arduino
                            Windows: ~/Documents/Arduino
                            Create a folder named hardware, if it does not exist, and change directories to it
                            Clone this repo: git clone https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF5.git sandeepmistry/nRF5
                            Restart the Arduino IDE```
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                            • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                              Well guys after all that :frowning:
                              I had not installed the development version from git.:angry:
                              After installling the development version the i2c is working fine.
                              Suprised no one else has done this??

                              From git (for core development)
                              
                              Follow steps from Board Manager section above
                              cd <SKETCHBOOK>, where <SKETCHBOOK> is your Arduino Sketch folder:
                              OS X: ~/Documents/Arduino
                              Linux: ~/Arduino
                              Windows: ~/Documents/Arduino
                              Create a folder named hardware, if it does not exist, and change directories to it
                              Clone this repo: git clone https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF5.git sandeepmistry/nRF5
                              Restart the Arduino IDE```
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                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @rmtucker

                              Please can someone update the instructions below to mention installing the development version

                              Preparing Arduino
                              Arduino doesn't support the nRF5 platform in a standard setup. You have to add the arduino-nRF5 platform via Arduino's Board Manager like described in https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF5/#installing
                              
                              
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                              • rmtuckerR rmtucker

                                @rmtucker

                                Please can someone update the instructions below to mention installing the development version

                                Preparing Arduino
                                Arduino doesn't support the nRF5 platform in a standard setup. You have to add the arduino-nRF5 platform via Arduino's Board Manager like described in https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF5/#installing
                                
                                
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #56

                                @rmtucker said in 💬 MySensors NRF5 Platform:

                                Please can someone update the instructions below to mention installing the development version

                                Preparing Arduino
                                Arduino doesn't support the nRF5 platform in a standard setup. You have to add the arduino-nRF5 platform via Arduino's Board Manager like described in https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF5/#installing
                                
                                

                                @d00616 maybe ? :)

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                                • Nca78N Nca78

                                  @rmtucker said in 💬 MySensors NRF5 Platform:

                                  Please can someone update the instructions below to mention installing the development version

                                  Preparing Arduino
                                  Arduino doesn't support the nRF5 platform in a standard setup. You have to add the arduino-nRF5 platform via Arduino's Board Manager like described in https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF5/#installing
                                  
                                  

                                  @d00616 maybe ? :)

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                                  wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                  #57

                                  If there are multiple libraries with the same name (as there seem to be), then how does the compiler know which one to pick? Is it just the first one whose name matches in whatever pathway it follows? Since it obviously compiled even though rmtucker was missing the proper libraries... this just sounds like a heartache waiting to happen unless everything is setup just-so. rmtucker's case seems to prove there won't be any warnings if it picks the wrong one.

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #58

                                    looking at d00616 howto it's explained to use Mysensors development branch (or maybe he added it today :) ). but that makes sense as this port is newer than master branch.

                                    @NeverDie
                                    it uses the core libraries depending on the board used in Arduino.

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                                    • scalzS scalz

                                      looking at d00616 howto it's explained to use Mysensors development branch (or maybe he added it today :) ). but that makes sense as this port is newer than master branch.

                                      @NeverDie
                                      it uses the core libraries depending on the board used in Arduino.

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                                      wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                                      #59

                                      @scalz: I think @rmtucker was discussing using the development version of the sandeepmistry nrf5 Arduino library, it was not related to the MySensors library.

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                                      • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                                        @scalz: I think @rmtucker was discussing using the development version of the sandeepmistry nrf5 Arduino library, it was not related to the MySensors library.

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #60

                                        @mfalkvidd
                                        Sorry i should have made it more understandable.
                                        When you follow the instructions below as per sandeeps site it does not install the latest NR5 libraries that you see on github.

                                        Installing
                                        
                                        Board Manager
                                        
                                        Download and install the Arduino IDE (At least v1.6.12)
                                        Start the Arduino IDE
                                        Go into Preferences
                                        Add https://sandeepmistry.github.io/arduino-nRF5/package_nRF5_boards_index.json as an "Additional Board Manager URL"
                                        Open the Boards Manager from the Tools -> Board menu and install "Nordic Semiconductor nRF5 Boards"
                                        Select your nRF5 board from the Tools -> Board menu
                                        

                                        Following this you must install the development version aswell which is what you see on github by doing this.

                                        From git (for core development)
                                        
                                        Follow steps from Board Manager section above
                                        cd <SKETCHBOOK>, where <SKETCHBOOK> is your Arduino Sketch folder:
                                        OS X: ~/Documents/Arduino
                                        Linux: ~/Arduino
                                        Windows: ~/Documents/Arduino
                                        Create a folder named hardware, if it does not exist, and change directories to it
                                        Clone this repo: git clone https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF5.git sandeepmistry/nRF5
                                        Restart the Arduino IDE
                                        

                                        Otherwise you run into all kinds of problems using the old library.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          I have added a note at the end of the installation documentation. To make things easier, I have opened an issue to update the Arduino-nRF5 release.

                                          https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF5/issues/182

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