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Whole house power monitoring.

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  • gohanG Offline
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    gohan
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    Of course there are, you could also make one out of an Arduino Uno one clamp an a small transformer, it depends if you want to go DIY or go with commercial product

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      shabba
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      DIY all the way! I assumed posting here would imply mysensors based but I guess I really should have been clear.

      Thanks!

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        Interested in the topic as well.
        Also, would it be possible get the power for arduino from the clamp itself, wirelessly? :D
        or you must have separate power source for arduino (I know this later is the case, but... you never know what smart people here can come up with)

        C: OpenHAB2 with node-red on linux laptop
        GW: Arduino Nano - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz mqtt
        GW: Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz

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          lately I discovered EnOcean. They produce energy harvesting sensors for home automation. E.g. a batteryless push button :) It harvests energy from button presses - how cool is that :D They also have other energy harvesting technologies, but I don't think they would provide enough power for arduino board that measures the current and voltage continuously ...

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            quick google search gave me this https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/189425/leach-circuit-to-power-microcontroller

            C: OpenHAB2 with node-red on linux laptop
            GW: Arduino Nano - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz mqtt
            GW: Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz

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            • rozpruwaczR rozpruwacz

              lately I discovered EnOcean. They produce energy harvesting sensors for home automation. E.g. a batteryless push button :) It harvests energy from button presses - how cool is that :D They also have other energy harvesting technologies, but I don't think they would provide enough power for arduino board that measures the current and voltage continuously ...

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              @rozpruwacz Why would want energy harvesting on an energy meter that is actually measuring the mains? You can just use a power supply and you are fine. Anyway, if you want to go DIY look at openenergymonitor site on how to build the sensor

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                @gohan I don't know, I just pointed out that it may be possible ;)

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                  I have looked at enocean stuff some time ago, and it works similarly to zwave but with energy harvesting in mind. Btw since I brought up zwave... https://aeotec.com/z-wave-home-energy-measure

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                    shabba
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                    All I am looking for really is a sensor/circuit that I can hook up to a mini and mysensors network.

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                      https://openenergymonitor.org/forum-archive/node/58.html then you add the mysensors code for communication.

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                      • gohanG gohan

                        https://openenergymonitor.org/forum-archive/node/58.html then you add the mysensors code for communication.

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                        @gohan Thank you!

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                        • gohanG gohan

                          @rozpruwacz Why would want energy harvesting on an energy meter that is actually measuring the mains? You can just use a power supply and you are fine. Anyway, if you want to go DIY look at openenergymonitor site on how to build the sensor

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                          @gohan said in Whole house power monitoring.:

                          Why would want energy harvesting on an energy meter that

                          I live in building where meter is in a common locker, thus no plugs nor power supplies.

                          C: OpenHAB2 with node-red on linux laptop
                          GW: Arduino Nano - W5100 Ethernet, Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz mqtt
                          GW: Arduino Mega, RFLink 433Mhz

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                            @gohan said in Whole house power monitoring.:

                            Why would want energy harvesting on an energy meter that

                            I live in building where meter is in a common locker, thus no plugs nor power supplies.

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                            gohan
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                            @dakipro then you should probably have a breaker box in the apartment, so you could put it there instead

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                            • gohanG gohan

                              @dakipro then you should probably have a breaker box in the apartment, so you could put it there instead

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                              Nca78
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                              @gohan said in Whole house power monitoring.:

                              @dakipro then you should probably have a breaker box in the apartment, so you could put it there instead

                              That's a good idea but it's a bit tight in there :(

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                                @gohan said in Whole house power monitoring.:

                                @dakipro then you should probably have a breaker box in the apartment, so you could put it there instead

                                That's a good idea but it's a bit tight in there :(

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                                @nca78 nobody said life is easy :sweat_smile:

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                                  I'm using an arduino pro mini with an W500 Ethernet module connected directly to router,and a clamp from ebay(100amps i think). arduino and w500 fits inside a small box and its inside main power box,clamped to the main wire from main eletric deferential . I have the (ATI) Telecomonication box at side of power box so its easy to connect to the router. i dont use transformer for volt read,just read Amps because my power its very stable at 230/235v and this is just for " power waste "control

                                  on first moth that i build it i saved 30€/moth in power(i not a commercial advertisement :P ).i had the electric resistance from water solar heating panel (3000w) working during the night,useless because we don't need hot water in morning,only at end of the day. so now i have another arduino that handle the hot water if there is no enough sun during the day... ( arduino pro minifor the win!!!:+1: )

                                  This is a screenshot from my emoncms page. like you see my wife its doing cakes and dinner,and the oven and induction plate eat a lot of power ![0_1515953751100_1.jpg

                                  i'm a arduino fan .Even sometimes don't undestanding how to use it :P

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                                    @gohan said in Whole house power monitoring.:

                                    https://openenergymonitor.org/forum-archive/node/58.html then you add the mysensors code for communication.

                                    +1 to that
                                    I have been using a single clamp sensor on my neutral at the power meter (SCT-030) hooked to an arduino/ESP8266
                                    It's been working great close to 3 years now with an accuracy of +- 7%
                                    I even use the readings to detect brown-outs and trigger devices to original state after power flips back to mains from the back-up (I live in an area where brown-outs , or power-cuts as we call them , are quite common)
                                    0_1515960671822_power.jpeg

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                                      +/-7% is good, because Domoticz has it own error -8% when energy consumption calculation is done by Domoticz.
                                      When I send 660 W constantly a few hours, I obtain energy consumption 604 - 609 Wh in this interval :o(
                                      They do not add last 5 min energy consumption in one hour interval ( Argument - because data arrived not at xx:00:00 but XX:00:05 )
                                      Look at Domoticz forum about this bug, if interested.
                                      Boys from Domoticz said - it is not important ....

                                      0_1516051380846_2018-01-15-221249_1920x1080_scrot.png

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                                        +/-7% is good, because Domoticz has it own error -8% when energy consumption calculation is done by Domoticz.
                                        When I send 660 W constantly a few hours, I obtain energy consumption 604 - 609 Wh in this interval :o(
                                        They do not add last 5 min energy consumption in one hour interval ( Argument - because data arrived not at xx:00:00 but XX:00:05 )
                                        Look at Domoticz forum about this bug, if interested.
                                        Boys from Domoticz said - it is not important ....

                                        0_1516051380846_2018-01-15-221249_1920x1080_scrot.png

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                                        gohan
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                                        @kimot yeah, 5 minutes intervals are not the best for that kind of statistics; you'd probably better look at influxDB for more accurate statistics

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                                          +/-7% is good, because Domoticz has it own error -8% when energy consumption calculation is done by Domoticz.
                                          When I send 660 W constantly a few hours, I obtain energy consumption 604 - 609 Wh in this interval :o(
                                          They do not add last 5 min energy consumption in one hour interval ( Argument - because data arrived not at xx:00:00 but XX:00:05 )
                                          Look at Domoticz forum about this bug, if interested.
                                          Boys from Domoticz said - it is not important ....

                                          0_1516051380846_2018-01-15-221249_1920x1080_scrot.png

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                                          @kimot thank you for that information. One more nail in Domoticz' coffin for me...

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