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  • CrankyCoderC Offline
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    my setup is still just using the direct mqtt subscription so i will hold off.

    is there any discovery working (in 2.2 that is) how about once you configure the things. do you get all the properties of that item from when it presents?

    Home Automation Tinkerer
    www.CrankyCoder.net

    Controller: HomeAssistant in Kubernetes
    Gateway: MQTTClientGateway
    MySensors: 2.3

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    • CrankyCoderC CrankyCoder

      my setup is still just using the direct mqtt subscription so i will hold off.

      is there any discovery working (in 2.2 that is) how about once you configure the things. do you get all the properties of that item from when it presents?

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      jogant
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      #14

      @crankycoder in 2.2 with appropriate binding mysensors is working pretty well. All variables are presented with mysensors lib 2.2.
      I only updated openhab to 2.3 as this release was presented on my debian system. But I didn't get 2.3 working with mysensors mqtt.

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        #15

        I did an upgrade the other week from 1.8 to 2.2. Then right about the time I had some stuff working 2.3 came out. So I figured since I have to do all the learning curve anyways I might as well stick with 2.3. The variables being presented in mysensors would be HUGE for me. But hopefully it's not too far out.

        Home Automation Tinkerer
        www.CrankyCoder.net

        Controller: HomeAssistant in Kubernetes
        Gateway: MQTTClientGateway
        MySensors: 2.3

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        • jogantJ Offline
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          jogant
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          #16

          @TimO : are there any news concerning compatibility to version 2.3?
          Thanks for your work!

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          • jogantJ jogant

            @TimO : are there any news concerning compatibility to version 2.3?
            Thanks for your work!

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            TimO
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            #17

            @jogant There already is a working version (2.4 SNAPSHOT) available on the marketplace and on my server. Please let me know if you expierence any problems.

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            • T TimO

              @jogant There already is a working version (2.4 SNAPSHOT) available on the marketplace and on my server. Please let me know if you expierence any problems.

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              jogant
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              #18

              @timo unfortunately this also does not work for me. I followed your manual very well but I always get errors. It starts after installing feature:install esh-io-transport-mqtt and mysensors binding:

              16:59:57.772 [ERROR] [protocol.mqtt.MySensorsMqttConnection] - MQTT connection offline - Reason unknown
              16:59:57.806 [INFO ] [o.transport.mqtt.MqttBrokerConnection] - Starting MQTT broker connection to '192.168.96.8' with clientid paho1135997459230242 and file store '/var/lib/openhab2/mqtt/192.168.96.8'
              16:59:57.867 [ERROR] [protocol.mqtt.MySensorsMqttConnection] - MQTT connection offline - {}
              org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3.MqttException: MqttException
                      at org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3.internal.ExceptionHelper.createMqttException(ExceptionHelper.java:38) [229:org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3:1.0.2]
                      at org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3.internal.ClientComms$ConnectBG.run(ClientComms.java:604) [229:org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3:1.0.2]
                      at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748) [?:?]
              Caused by: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
                      at java.net.SocketInputStream.read(SocketInputStream.java:210) ~[?:?]
                      at java.net.SocketInputStream.read(SocketInputStream.java:141) ~[?:?]
                      at sun.security.ssl.InputRecord.readFully(InputRecord.java:465) ~[?:?]
                      at sun.security.ssl.InputRecord.read(InputRecord.java:503) ~[?:?]
                      at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.readRecord(SSLSocketImpl.java:983) ~[?:?]
                      at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.performInitialHandshake(SSLSocketImpl.java:1385) ~[?:?]
                      at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(SSLSocketImpl.java:1413) ~[?:?]
                      at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(SSLSocketImpl.java:1397) ~[?:?]
                      at org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3.internal.SSLNetworkModule.start(SSLNetworkModule.java:89) ~[?:?]
                      at org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3.internal.ClientComms$ConnectBG.run(ClientComms.java:590) ~[?:?]
                      ... 1 more
              
              

              and reconection starts every 10 seconds.
              It must be interference with mqtt1 bindung that I use for eventbus.
              The mqtt-bridge remains Offline.
              What is wrong?

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              • jogantJ jogant

                @timo unfortunately this also does not work for me. I followed your manual very well but I always get errors. It starts after installing feature:install esh-io-transport-mqtt and mysensors binding:

                16:59:57.772 [ERROR] [protocol.mqtt.MySensorsMqttConnection] - MQTT connection offline - Reason unknown
                16:59:57.806 [INFO ] [o.transport.mqtt.MqttBrokerConnection] - Starting MQTT broker connection to '192.168.96.8' with clientid paho1135997459230242 and file store '/var/lib/openhab2/mqtt/192.168.96.8'
                16:59:57.867 [ERROR] [protocol.mqtt.MySensorsMqttConnection] - MQTT connection offline - {}
                org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3.MqttException: MqttException
                        at org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3.internal.ExceptionHelper.createMqttException(ExceptionHelper.java:38) [229:org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3:1.0.2]
                        at org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3.internal.ClientComms$ConnectBG.run(ClientComms.java:604) [229:org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3:1.0.2]
                        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748) [?:?]
                Caused by: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
                        at java.net.SocketInputStream.read(SocketInputStream.java:210) ~[?:?]
                        at java.net.SocketInputStream.read(SocketInputStream.java:141) ~[?:?]
                        at sun.security.ssl.InputRecord.readFully(InputRecord.java:465) ~[?:?]
                        at sun.security.ssl.InputRecord.read(InputRecord.java:503) ~[?:?]
                        at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.readRecord(SSLSocketImpl.java:983) ~[?:?]
                        at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.performInitialHandshake(SSLSocketImpl.java:1385) ~[?:?]
                        at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(SSLSocketImpl.java:1413) ~[?:?]
                        at sun.security.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(SSLSocketImpl.java:1397) ~[?:?]
                        at org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3.internal.SSLNetworkModule.start(SSLNetworkModule.java:89) ~[?:?]
                        at org.eclipse.paho.client.mqttv3.internal.ClientComms$ConnectBG.run(ClientComms.java:590) ~[?:?]
                        ... 1 more
                
                

                and reconection starts every 10 seconds.
                It must be interference with mqtt1 bindung that I use for eventbus.
                The mqtt-bridge remains Offline.
                What is wrong?

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                TimO
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                wrote on last edited by
                #19

                @jogant Indeed this looks like an error in your configuration. I suspect the MQTT configuration. Did you change the MQTT configuration according my posting above? I've also added a text to the Wiki. The name and content of the MQTT configuration differs between OpenHAB 2.2 and 2.3.

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                • T TimO

                  @jogant Indeed this looks like an error in your configuration. I suspect the MQTT configuration. Did you change the MQTT configuration according my posting above? I've also added a text to the Wiki. The name and content of the MQTT configuration differs between OpenHAB 2.2 and 2.3.

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                  jogant
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #20

                  @timo with 2.2 I had two configurations which were very similar.
                  I have one mosquitto mqtt broker on localhost, version 1.5.
                  The mqtt1 binding is for my mqtt-eventbus connection is called mosquitto and the config file (mqtt.cfg) is as follows:

                  mosquitto.url=tcp://192.168.96.8:1883
                  mosquitto.retain=false
                  mosquitto.clientId=openhab
                  mosquitto.user=user
                  mosquitto.pwd=pwd
                  

                  With OH2.2 this configuration works. It also works with 2.3 as I can see all openhab events on my mosquitto.
                  My mysonsors binding is configured by org.eclipse.smarthome.mqttbroker.cfg config file which looks as follows:

                  name=mosquittomys
                  host=192.168.96.8
                  port=1883
                  retain=false
                  username=username
                  password=password
                  clientId=openhabMys
                  

                  I also tried without authentication and also without clientId, all to no succuess.
                  I cleaned /var/lib/openhab2/cache/ folder and /var/lib/openhab2/tmp/ folder.
                  I looked at /var/lib/openhab2/config folder for resulting runtime configuration, but all looks fine. Do you have any further idea?

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                  • T TimO

                    @jogant Indeed this looks like an error in your configuration. I suspect the MQTT configuration. Did you change the MQTT configuration according my posting above? I've also added a text to the Wiki. The name and content of the MQTT configuration differs between OpenHAB 2.2 and 2.3.

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                    jogant
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                    #21

                    @timo I found the fault in my configuration: it was the missing secure=false config flag in the org.eclipse.smarthome.mqttbroker.cfg config file. I have no idea what happens when the flag is missing but without it one doesn't achieve a valid connection.

                    name=mosquittomys
                    host=192.168.96.8
                    port=1883
                    secure=false  <-- important !
                    
                    

                    So now I have a working 2.3 installation! Thanks alot for your support.

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                    • jogantJ jogant

                      @timo I found the fault in my configuration: it was the missing secure=false config flag in the org.eclipse.smarthome.mqttbroker.cfg config file. I have no idea what happens when the flag is missing but without it one doesn't achieve a valid connection.

                      name=mosquittomys
                      host=192.168.96.8
                      port=1883
                      secure=false  <-- important !
                      
                      

                      So now I have a working 2.3 installation! Thanks alot for your support.

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                      TimO
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                      @jogant Good catch! I'm glad it's working now! :-)

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                        MasMat
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                        #23

                        I'm still unsuccesful.
                        Do I need to reinstall all the files as well? I didn't find a new set of instructions.

                        In my /etc/openhab2/services-folder I have:
                        mqtt-eventbus.cfg containing just

                        broker=mosquitto
                        

                        and org.eclipse.smarthome.mqttbroker.cfg:

                        name=mosquitto
                        host=127.0.0.1
                        secure=false
                        port=1883
                        secure=false
                        username=XXXX
                        password=YYYYY
                        retain=false
                        clientId=openhabMys
                        

                        openhab.log everything mysensors related:

                        2018-07-09 06:40:36.782 [INFO ] [.transport.mqtt.MqttBrokerConnection] - Starting MQTT broker connection to '127.0.0.1' with clientid paho175068223000 and file store '/var/lib/openhab2/mqtt/127.0.0.1'
                        2018-07-09 06:40:37.050 [DEBUG] [org.openhab.binding.mysensors       ] - BundleEvent STARTING - org.openhab.binding.mysensors
                        2018-07-09 06:40:37.075 [DEBUG] [org.openhab.binding.mysensors       ] - BundleEvent STARTED - org.openhab.binding.mysensors
                        2018-07-09 06:40:37.206 [DEBUG] [org.openhab.binding.mysensors       ] - ServiceEvent REGISTERED - {org.eclipse.smarthome.core.thing.binding.ThingHandlerFactory}={service.id=119, service.bundleid=13, service.scope=bundle, component.name=org.openhab.binding.mysensors.factory.MySensorsHandlerFactory, component.id=17} - org.openhab.binding.mysensors
                        2018-07-09 06:42:36.466 [WARN ] [lipse.smarthome.io.net.exec.ExecUtil] - Execution failed (Exit value: -559038737. Caused by java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "arping" (in directory "."): error=2, Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole)
                        2018-07-09 06:42:36.685 [INFO ] [ternal.dhcp.DHCPPacketListenerServer] - DHCP request packet listener online
                        2018-07-09 06:42:37.484 [DEBUG] [nsors.handler.MySensorsBridgeHandler] - Initialization of the MySensors bridge
                        2018-07-09 06:42:38.136 [DEBUG] [ensors.factory.MySensorsCacheFactory] - Cache file: given_ids.cached exist.
                        2018-07-09 06:42:38.178 [DEBUG] [ensors.factory.MySensorsCacheFactory] - Cache (given_ids) content: [0, 1, 99, 4, 5]
                        2018-07-09 06:42:38.608 [DEBUG] [rotocol.mqtt.MySensorsMqttConnection] - Enabling connection watchdog
                        2018-07-09 06:42:38.830 [DEBUG] [org.openhab.binding.mysensors       ] - ServiceEvent REGISTERED - {org.eclipse.smarthome.config.discovery.DiscoveryService}={service.id=281, service.bundleid=13, service.scope=singleton} - org.openhab.binding.mysensors
                        2018-07-09 06:42:38.897 [DEBUG] [.discovery.MySensorsDiscoveryService] - Starting MySensors discovery scan
                        2018-07-09 06:42:38.926 [DEBUG] [nsors.handler.MySensorsBridgeHandler] - Initialization of the MySensors bridge DONE!
                        

                        Anyone spot what's still wrong?

                        P.S. I remember seeing someone got MyS gateway to log to a different file. Does anyone know how to implement that in the ./configure -command? Or how can I do that?

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                        • MasMatM MasMat

                          I'm still unsuccesful.
                          Do I need to reinstall all the files as well? I didn't find a new set of instructions.

                          In my /etc/openhab2/services-folder I have:
                          mqtt-eventbus.cfg containing just

                          broker=mosquitto
                          

                          and org.eclipse.smarthome.mqttbroker.cfg:

                          name=mosquitto
                          host=127.0.0.1
                          secure=false
                          port=1883
                          secure=false
                          username=XXXX
                          password=YYYYY
                          retain=false
                          clientId=openhabMys
                          

                          openhab.log everything mysensors related:

                          2018-07-09 06:40:36.782 [INFO ] [.transport.mqtt.MqttBrokerConnection] - Starting MQTT broker connection to '127.0.0.1' with clientid paho175068223000 and file store '/var/lib/openhab2/mqtt/127.0.0.1'
                          2018-07-09 06:40:37.050 [DEBUG] [org.openhab.binding.mysensors       ] - BundleEvent STARTING - org.openhab.binding.mysensors
                          2018-07-09 06:40:37.075 [DEBUG] [org.openhab.binding.mysensors       ] - BundleEvent STARTED - org.openhab.binding.mysensors
                          2018-07-09 06:40:37.206 [DEBUG] [org.openhab.binding.mysensors       ] - ServiceEvent REGISTERED - {org.eclipse.smarthome.core.thing.binding.ThingHandlerFactory}={service.id=119, service.bundleid=13, service.scope=bundle, component.name=org.openhab.binding.mysensors.factory.MySensorsHandlerFactory, component.id=17} - org.openhab.binding.mysensors
                          2018-07-09 06:42:36.466 [WARN ] [lipse.smarthome.io.net.exec.ExecUtil] - Execution failed (Exit value: -559038737. Caused by java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "arping" (in directory "."): error=2, Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole)
                          2018-07-09 06:42:36.685 [INFO ] [ternal.dhcp.DHCPPacketListenerServer] - DHCP request packet listener online
                          2018-07-09 06:42:37.484 [DEBUG] [nsors.handler.MySensorsBridgeHandler] - Initialization of the MySensors bridge
                          2018-07-09 06:42:38.136 [DEBUG] [ensors.factory.MySensorsCacheFactory] - Cache file: given_ids.cached exist.
                          2018-07-09 06:42:38.178 [DEBUG] [ensors.factory.MySensorsCacheFactory] - Cache (given_ids) content: [0, 1, 99, 4, 5]
                          2018-07-09 06:42:38.608 [DEBUG] [rotocol.mqtt.MySensorsMqttConnection] - Enabling connection watchdog
                          2018-07-09 06:42:38.830 [DEBUG] [org.openhab.binding.mysensors       ] - ServiceEvent REGISTERED - {org.eclipse.smarthome.config.discovery.DiscoveryService}={service.id=281, service.bundleid=13, service.scope=singleton} - org.openhab.binding.mysensors
                          2018-07-09 06:42:38.897 [DEBUG] [.discovery.MySensorsDiscoveryService] - Starting MySensors discovery scan
                          2018-07-09 06:42:38.926 [DEBUG] [nsors.handler.MySensorsBridgeHandler] - Initialization of the MySensors bridge DONE!
                          

                          Anyone spot what's still wrong?

                          P.S. I remember seeing someone got MyS gateway to log to a different file. Does anyone know how to implement that in the ./configure -command? Or how can I do that?

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                          jogant
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #24

                          @masmat two things come to my mind: I have two different broker-names for eventbus connection and mysensors connection. For eventbus binding you need classic mqtt1 binding with its own configuration like this:

                          mosquitto.url=tcp://127.0.0.1:1883
                          mosquitto.retain=false
                          mosquitto.clientId=openhab
                          mosquitto.user=user
                          mosquitto.pwd=pwd
                          

                          And second: can you show your mysensors bridge configuration? Not shure but debug log looks like an ethernet bridge and not a mqtt bridge.

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                            MasMat
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            Not sure how to answer some of your questions...but here goes.
                            configuration:

                            sudo ./configure --my-transport=nrf24 --my-rf24-irq-pin=15 --my-signing-debug --my-signing=password --my-signing-password=XXXXXXXX --my-gateway=mqtt --my-controller-ip-address=127.0.0.1 --my-mqtt-user=YYYY --my-mqtt-password=ZZZZZ --my-mqtt-publish-topic-prefix=mysensors-out --my-mqtt-subscribe-topic-prefix=mysensors-in --my-mqtt-client-id=mygateway1 --my-leds-err-pin=12 --my-leds-rx-pin=16 --my-leds-tx-pin=18
                            

                            I'm not sure what "eventbus"-binding is. Something I need to install in Paper UI?
                            Is the configuration file mqtt-eventbus.cfg or something else? Should I try to install it? I have not installed the MQTT binding in OpenHab because at least originally the instructions said not to.

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                            • MasMatM MasMat

                              Not sure how to answer some of your questions...but here goes.
                              configuration:

                              sudo ./configure --my-transport=nrf24 --my-rf24-irq-pin=15 --my-signing-debug --my-signing=password --my-signing-password=XXXXXXXX --my-gateway=mqtt --my-controller-ip-address=127.0.0.1 --my-mqtt-user=YYYY --my-mqtt-password=ZZZZZ --my-mqtt-publish-topic-prefix=mysensors-out --my-mqtt-subscribe-topic-prefix=mysensors-in --my-mqtt-client-id=mygateway1 --my-leds-err-pin=12 --my-leds-rx-pin=16 --my-leds-tx-pin=18
                              

                              I'm not sure what "eventbus"-binding is. Something I need to install in Paper UI?
                              Is the configuration file mqtt-eventbus.cfg or something else? Should I try to install it? I have not installed the MQTT binding in OpenHab because at least originally the instructions said not to.

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                              jogant
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #26

                              @masmat I just wanted to understand your configuration. So I read through whole thread and saw your problems began with upgrade to OH2.3.
                              I mentioned eventbus as you wrote something about eventbus.cfg.
                              You need eventbus only if you want to send all oh events to mqtt broker.
                              I wanted to see your mqtt bridge configuration. You can either configure dynamicly via paper ui or you set it up via things file. The later is what I did. So here is my things file with bridge configuration.

                              
                              Bridge mysensors:bridge-mqtt:gateway [  brokerName="mosquittomys",
                                                                      topicPublish="mysensors1/in",
                                                                      topicSubscribe="mysensors1/out",
                                                                      startupCheckEnabled=true ] {
                              
                              }
                              

                              Here the brokername has to be the same as in mqttbroker.cfg. Fix topic names to match your mysensors gateway.
                              Hope this is of any help.

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                                • jogantJ jogant

                                  @masmat I just wanted to understand your configuration. So I read through whole thread and saw your problems began with upgrade to OH2.3.
                                  I mentioned eventbus as you wrote something about eventbus.cfg.
                                  You need eventbus only if you want to send all oh events to mqtt broker.
                                  I wanted to see your mqtt bridge configuration. You can either configure dynamicly via paper ui or you set it up via things file. The later is what I did. So here is my things file with bridge configuration.

                                  
                                  Bridge mysensors:bridge-mqtt:gateway [  brokerName="mosquittomys",
                                                                          topicPublish="mysensors1/in",
                                                                          topicSubscribe="mysensors1/out",
                                                                          startupCheckEnabled=true ] {
                                  
                                  }
                                  

                                  Here the brokername has to be the same as in mqttbroker.cfg. Fix topic names to match your mysensors gateway.
                                  Hope this is of any help.

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                                  MasMat
                                  wrote on last edited by MasMat
                                  #28

                                  @jogant Finally had time to double check this:
                                  Paper UI:

                                  Broker Name 
                                  mosquitto
                                  Subscription Topic 
                                  mygateway1-out
                                  Publish Topic 
                                  mygateway1-in
                                  Send Delay 100
                                  Startup check enabled
                                  Metric answer enabled
                                  Network sanity check enabled
                                  Interval to launch network sanity check 3
                                  Attempts before disconnecting the bridge 3
                                  Heartbeat disabled
                                  Attempts before disconnecting nodes 10
                                  

                                  EDIT: I noticed I have different topics in MQTT, corrected AND I did:

                                  cd /usr/share/openhab2/addons/
                                  wget http://www.oberfoell.com/openhab2/org.openhab.binding.mysensors-2.4.0-SNAPSHOT.jar   <== THIS probably  fixed it!
                                  chown for the same file
                                  
                                  rm org.openhab.binding.mysensors-2.3.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
                                  

                                  Now my MQTT Gw is ONLINE, in Paper UI I just selected the bridge for every individual Thing and now it works.
                                  Hope this helps people strugling with this.

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                                    Euromir
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #29

                                    Hi

                                    I want to set this up, but have openHAB already setup and running MQTT using the binding installed in paperui, whereas you say dont use that?

                                    Suggestions? With devices already working well on MQTT currently i want to follow this great, but dont wish to break what i have already working?

                                    Thanks

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                                      itbeyond
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                                      #30

                                      @TimO Thanks for the excellent work with the binding.

                                      I have just got this all running on OH2.3 using mosquito and mqtt mysensors using a Mega 2560. I am migration from a Vera to openHab and have around 20+ mysensors nodes from 1 to 8 devices on each. So this is a significant task. Anyway I am also newish to OH so have a few questions if I may.

                                      • Is it better to go via MQTT or Ethernet Bridge - on Vera I am using Ethernet my new Gateway using the Mega (as pro mini not enough ram to run security) can be either so is there a preference for either of these?
                                      • Is it worth using PaperUI vs Items files for configuration. I am leaning to items files as I am working with Persistance and some complex rules for device control. I have the binding learning nodes during a reboot in PaperUI these are working but I am confused how to build everything outside of the json DB files or even if I should?
                                      • Can MYSController be used somehow in this configuration either MQTT or Ethernet for OTA. At the moment I run this on a PC and connect to the Ethernet gateway do my updates and then let Vera have the gateway back. Is there a better way to link this using openHab?

                                      Sorry for the questions but if you never ask you never learn - thanks.
                                      David

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                                        @TimO Thanks for the excellent work with the binding.

                                        I have just got this all running on OH2.3 using mosquito and mqtt mysensors using a Mega 2560. I am migration from a Vera to openHab and have around 20+ mysensors nodes from 1 to 8 devices on each. So this is a significant task. Anyway I am also newish to OH so have a few questions if I may.

                                        • Is it better to go via MQTT or Ethernet Bridge - on Vera I am using Ethernet my new Gateway using the Mega (as pro mini not enough ram to run security) can be either so is there a preference for either of these?
                                        • Is it worth using PaperUI vs Items files for configuration. I am leaning to items files as I am working with Persistance and some complex rules for device control. I have the binding learning nodes during a reboot in PaperUI these are working but I am confused how to build everything outside of the json DB files or even if I should?
                                        • Can MYSController be used somehow in this configuration either MQTT or Ethernet for OTA. At the moment I run this on a PC and connect to the Ethernet gateway do my updates and then let Vera have the gateway back. Is there a better way to link this using openHab?

                                        Sorry for the questions but if you never ask you never learn - thanks.
                                        David

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                                        @itbeyond As always your mileage will vary depending on experience and goals.
                                        Disclaimer: I only have a couple of MYS-sensors and a small OpenHAB installation for sensing and remote light control. OpenHAB is a complex system so it takes time to master. Fortunately it also has great support and I really like it for its flexiblity, power and structure.

                                        • MQTT or ethernet bridge? I've tried both but never got MQTT to work. Based on the questions in the MYS forums I believe it is easier to use the ethernet connection. I find it easier to troubleshoot. You can start with the ethernet bridge to ensure everything works. Then you can easily switch to the MQTT setup if there are advantages for you. But unless you have other applications that also listen to the MYS messages, I can't really see any obvious reasons to use MQTT. (Of course, it may give you a warm, fuzzy feeling of having an all-MQTT sensor network.)

                                        • Definitely go for config files. Autodiscovery is neat but there are many things you can't do in PaperUI or that are very difficult to do there. In config files you can also add comments to explain to your future self why you did something.
                                          You can try autodiscovery and PaperUI first if you like and then move to config files. Then you may want to check out the OpenHAB forums on how to manually clear the cache. Sometimes the OH cache is a bit too clever for itself.

                                        • As I understand it, OTA is not supported by any MQTT controller. It is also not supported by OpenHAB. If you use the ethernet bridge you can keep your current ways of working - sensing and control in OpenHAB and update OTA via MYSController. If I'm not mistaken you only have to configure the MYS gw to accept at least two connections.

                                        You seem to know your way around OH already, but I will add a few general comments for beginners, based on my own experience with OpenHAB (as a non-developer):

                                        • First step is to set up backup and restore. Then test that it really works the way you intended.
                                        • Use the production release of OpenHAB unless you really need the bleeding edge. It can be very time consuming to revert from a beta/snapshot release to the production release.
                                        • Spend some time setting up OpenHAB and software around it so you can easily edit the config files. I use Openhabian which automatically shares all interesting files using Samba. It is then trivial to connect from my desktop and edit with my favourite editor. (MS Code has great support for OpenHAB config files.)
                                        • Spend some time on how to properly backup and restore OpenHAB so you can experiment freely and still easily revert if it crashes.
                                        • The OH forum is your friend. It is even more true than for MYS.
                                          E.g. check out the advice on how to name (and not name) your config files, things and items.
                                          and the OH patterns that provides beatiful solutions for many "impossible" problems.
                                        • Did I mention backup and restore? At least archive your config directory regularely.

                                        /Fredrik

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                                          @itbeyond As always your mileage will vary depending on experience and goals.
                                          Disclaimer: I only have a couple of MYS-sensors and a small OpenHAB installation for sensing and remote light control. OpenHAB is a complex system so it takes time to master. Fortunately it also has great support and I really like it for its flexiblity, power and structure.

                                          • MQTT or ethernet bridge? I've tried both but never got MQTT to work. Based on the questions in the MYS forums I believe it is easier to use the ethernet connection. I find it easier to troubleshoot. You can start with the ethernet bridge to ensure everything works. Then you can easily switch to the MQTT setup if there are advantages for you. But unless you have other applications that also listen to the MYS messages, I can't really see any obvious reasons to use MQTT. (Of course, it may give you a warm, fuzzy feeling of having an all-MQTT sensor network.)

                                          • Definitely go for config files. Autodiscovery is neat but there are many things you can't do in PaperUI or that are very difficult to do there. In config files you can also add comments to explain to your future self why you did something.
                                            You can try autodiscovery and PaperUI first if you like and then move to config files. Then you may want to check out the OpenHAB forums on how to manually clear the cache. Sometimes the OH cache is a bit too clever for itself.

                                          • As I understand it, OTA is not supported by any MQTT controller. It is also not supported by OpenHAB. If you use the ethernet bridge you can keep your current ways of working - sensing and control in OpenHAB and update OTA via MYSController. If I'm not mistaken you only have to configure the MYS gw to accept at least two connections.

                                          You seem to know your way around OH already, but I will add a few general comments for beginners, based on my own experience with OpenHAB (as a non-developer):

                                          • First step is to set up backup and restore. Then test that it really works the way you intended.
                                          • Use the production release of OpenHAB unless you really need the bleeding edge. It can be very time consuming to revert from a beta/snapshot release to the production release.
                                          • Spend some time setting up OpenHAB and software around it so you can easily edit the config files. I use Openhabian which automatically shares all interesting files using Samba. It is then trivial to connect from my desktop and edit with my favourite editor. (MS Code has great support for OpenHAB config files.)
                                          • Spend some time on how to properly backup and restore OpenHAB so you can experiment freely and still easily revert if it crashes.
                                          • The OH forum is your friend. It is even more true than for MYS.
                                            E.g. check out the advice on how to name (and not name) your config files, things and items.
                                            and the OH patterns that provides beatiful solutions for many "impossible" problems.
                                          • Did I mention backup and restore? At least archive your config directory regularely.

                                          /Fredrik

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                                          @fredswed thanks for your comments. I have gone with Ethernet gateway as it works well and at this stage I do not need MQTT - maybe if I play with node-red or something down the track but for the moment happy with Ethernet - it just works. I did have MQTT working but the MYSController connection is a possible problem.

                                          I have also gone to the config files directly and have worked out the bridge setup in the things file and have a few test items running.

                                          Yes backups - done that and have my system backing up to a local NAS box.
                                          Cheers David

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