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[security] Introducing signing support to MySensors

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  • alexsh1A alexsh1

    @Anticimex BTW, is signing compatible between 1.5.4 and 2.0b?

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    Anticimex
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    @alexsh1 no, it is not

    Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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    • AnticimexA Anticimex

      @alexsh1 no, it is not

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      @Anticimex Right, this is why I am not able to sign 1.5.4 nodes with 2.0b GW.
      In fact when I inserted #define MY_SIGNING_REQUEST_SIGNATURES into the GW code, some nodes stopped working and I think it has to be with signing as GW is throwing a lot of messages that signing failed.

      Bottom line is that I need to upgrade pretty much all sensors :-(

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      • alexsh1A alexsh1

        @Anticimex Right, this is why I am not able to sign 1.5.4 nodes with 2.0b GW.
        In fact when I inserted #define MY_SIGNING_REQUEST_SIGNATURES into the GW code, some nodes stopped working and I think it has to be with signing as GW is throwing a lot of messages that signing failed.

        Bottom line is that I need to upgrade pretty much all sensors :-(

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        @alexsh1 yes, Unfortunately. But it is a huge release upcoming. And a major version step, hence the incompatibilities. Hopefully, the changes made will make it easier to do future maintenance.

        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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          Hi. Is there any difference in using RFM69? Signing is supported using that radio? Thanks

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          • C cingolanifede

            Hi. Is there any difference in using RFM69? Signing is supported using that radio? Thanks

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            Anticimex
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            @cingolanifede signing has nothing to to with which radio you choose so yes. It supports any transport, but to my knowledge it has only been actually tested with nrf24 and rfm69.

            Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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              #267

              @Anticimex I must admit that signing is working really-really nicely on my custom made nodes (Soft sign and ATSHA204A)

              Apart from a small issue with the sensebender, which I believe is not a signing issue, it is working like a charm. All credit to you! Thank you

              Starting sensor (RNNNAS, 2.0.0-beta)
              Radio init successful.
              HTU21D Sensor1.1 - Online!
              isMetric: 1
              TempDiff :1098.00
              HumDiff  :136.75
              T: 998.00
              H: 36.75
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:998.0
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:36.7
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=38,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:3.29
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:106
              Signing required
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
              Waiting for GW to send signing preferences...
              Skipping security for command 3 type 15
              read: 0-0-5 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0:
              Mark node 0 as one that do not require signed messages
              Mark node 0 as one that do not require whitelisting
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:2.0.0-beta
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
              Skipping security for command 3 type 16
              read: 0-0-5 s=255,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
              Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
              SHA256: 2C4A871ACCAE26760F41E547DD39B7B816FE22EEBCD8DFA2FE00000000000000
              Transmittng nonce
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=0,st=ok:2C4A871ACCAE26760F41E547DD39B7B816FE22EEBCD8DFA2FE
              Signature in message: 01C31110DAE29D5DCD3771F68B6F29B5CCCF43A3D5397CC8
              Message to process: 00050E0306FF4D
              Current nonce: 2C4A871ACCAE26760F41E547DD39B7B816FE22EEBCD8DFA2FEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
              HMAC: 0CC31110DAE29D5DCD3771F68B6F29B5CCCF43A3D5397CC89A82A89D87E931B8
              Signature OK
              read: 0-0-5 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:M
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=24,sg=0,st=ok:Temp/Hum Sensor - HTU21D
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,st=ok:1.1
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=0,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=2,c=0,t=13,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
              Init complete, id=5, parent=0, distance=1
              TempDiff :971.94
              HumDiff  :0.02
              T: 26.06
              H: 36.72
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:26.1
              send: 5-5-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:36.7
              
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              • alexsh1A alexsh1

                @Anticimex I must admit that signing is working really-really nicely on my custom made nodes (Soft sign and ATSHA204A)

                Apart from a small issue with the sensebender, which I believe is not a signing issue, it is working like a charm. All credit to you! Thank you

                Starting sensor (RNNNAS, 2.0.0-beta)
                Radio init successful.
                HTU21D Sensor1.1 - Online!
                isMetric: 1
                TempDiff :1098.00
                HumDiff  :136.75
                T: 998.00
                H: 36.75
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:998.0
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:36.7
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=38,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:3.29
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:106
                Signing required
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
                Waiting for GW to send signing preferences...
                Skipping security for command 3 type 15
                read: 0-0-5 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0:
                Mark node 0 as one that do not require signed messages
                Mark node 0 as one that do not require whitelisting
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:2.0.0-beta
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                read: 0-0-5 s=255,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
                Signing backend: ATSHA204Soft
                SHA256: 2C4A871ACCAE26760F41E547DD39B7B816FE22EEBCD8DFA2FE00000000000000
                Transmittng nonce
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=0,st=ok:2C4A871ACCAE26760F41E547DD39B7B816FE22EEBCD8DFA2FE
                Signature in message: 01C31110DAE29D5DCD3771F68B6F29B5CCCF43A3D5397CC8
                Message to process: 00050E0306FF4D
                Current nonce: 2C4A871ACCAE26760F41E547DD39B7B816FE22EEBCD8DFA2FEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                HMAC: 0CC31110DAE29D5DCD3771F68B6F29B5CCCF43A3D5397CC89A82A89D87E931B8
                Signature OK
                read: 0-0-5 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:M
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=24,sg=0,st=ok:Temp/Hum Sensor - HTU21D
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,st=ok:1.1
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=0,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=2,c=0,t=13,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                Init complete, id=5, parent=0, distance=1
                TempDiff :971.94
                HumDiff  :0.02
                T: 26.06
                H: 36.72
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:26.1
                send: 5-5-0-0 s=1,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:36.7
                
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                Anticimex
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                #268

                @alexsh1 I'm really glad to hear that. Thank you! Glad that signing is being used and is perceived as something not to complicated to bother with. It sets us apart from many other projects dealing with the same thing :)

                Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                • AnticimexA Anticimex

                  @alexsh1 I'm really glad to hear that. Thank you! Glad that signing is being used and is perceived as something not to complicated to bother with. It sets us apart from many other projects dealing with the same thing :)

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                  alexsh1
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #269

                  @Anticimex I did not say it was not complicated :)
                  Just kidding - speaking just for myself, it did require some time investment to understand the concept and then upgrading my gateway and my nodes (I am still in the process of rolling signing across the rest of my nodes) to MySensors 2.0b. I probably spent more time upgrading MySensors lib and breaking some hardware in the meantime (the SMA connector on the nrf24l01+ PA+LNA) than the actual signing.

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                  • alexsh1A alexsh1

                    @Anticimex I did not say it was not complicated :)
                    Just kidding - speaking just for myself, it did require some time investment to understand the concept and then upgrading my gateway and my nodes (I am still in the process of rolling signing across the rest of my nodes) to MySensors 2.0b. I probably spent more time upgrading MySensors lib and breaking some hardware in the meantime (the SMA connector on the nrf24l01+ PA+LNA) than the actual signing.

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                    Anticimex
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                    #270

                    @alexsh1 yeah, well if there is room for improvement in the documentation then feel free to help put with suggestions if there is anything unclear about that :) I use doxygen to document signing features, and a link is available on the GitHub "front-page" (the readme.md)

                    Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                    • AnticimexA Anticimex

                      @alexsh1 yeah, well if there is room for improvement in the documentation then feel free to help put with suggestions if there is anything unclear about that :) I use doxygen to document signing features, and a link is available on the GitHub "front-page" (the readme.md)

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                      @Anticimex I think a noob's section would be good. Having said that, the point is that signing is not something beginners should touch. What do you think?

                      How about a section on the web-site? Somewhere here - https://www.mysensors.org/build/

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                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                        @Anticimex I think a noob's section would be good. Having said that, the point is that signing is not something beginners should touch. What do you think?

                        How about a section on the web-site? Somewhere here - https://www.mysensors.org/build/

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                        Anticimex
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                        @alexsh1 hm, yeah, perhaps something for @hek to consider. At least a link to the signing section of the doxygen docs could be placed there. I have tried to make the documentation as step-by-step friendly as I can. That said, as I also did the actual implementation, I may well be blind for certain aspects I take for granted that a "novice" does not.

                        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                          The next release of the main site will be much more flexible and integrated with openhardware-added projects. The idea is to allow community members to maintain their projects and/or "articles" themselves. The how-to for signing is a good example of an article.

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                            Fabien
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                            #274

                            This tutorial is up to date for 2.0 release ?

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                            • F Fabien

                              This tutorial is up to date for 2.0 release ?

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                              Anticimex
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                              #275

                              @Fabien Yes, top post is now updated for 2.0.0. Documentation is in doxygen.

                              Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                Fabien
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                                #276

                                Thank you @Anticimex I will update my network soon and had RFM69 Encryption too.

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                                  #277

                                  Trying this:
                                  https://www.mysensors.org/build/raspberry

                                  How do I enable signing and give the gateway the serial, hmac and aes-key when running on Linux? (rPi).

                                  Edit: Pin 7 as random number generator maybe need some change?

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                                    Trying this:
                                    https://www.mysensors.org/build/raspberry

                                    How do I enable signing and give the gateway the serial, hmac and aes-key when running on Linux? (rPi).

                                    Edit: Pin 7 as random number generator maybe need some change?

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                                    Anticimex
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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #278

                                    @NiklasO @marceloaqno is working on this.

                                    Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                      executivul
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                                      #279

                                      Hi,
                                      I have about 100 ATSHA204 I2C variant to be used in a MySensors project.
                                      Do you think that by modifying the personalizer sketch to disable the I2C bit in the configuration (0x03 word address) the chips can be set to be used as single-wire, or are they hardcoded to use only one protocol, but then why having the config bit?

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                                        Hi,
                                        I have about 100 ATSHA204 I2C variant to be used in a MySensors project.
                                        Do you think that by modifying the personalizer sketch to disable the I2C bit in the configuration (0x03 word address) the chips can be set to be used as single-wire, or are they hardcoded to use only one protocol, but then why having the config bit?

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                                        @executivul The bit is readonly. You cannot change it. It is used to determine the variant of chip, not to select mode of operation.
                                        From the documentation:
                                        0_1478094689558_upload-93242040-4814-4ad6-8951-4ad4d1e99a23
                                        But you are welcome to submit a pull request for adding support for I2C variants of ATSHA204a. I have none myself so I have not bothered looking into that and currently I am out of time to spend on it I am afraid.

                                        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                        • AnticimexA Anticimex

                                          @executivul The bit is readonly. You cannot change it. It is used to determine the variant of chip, not to select mode of operation.
                                          From the documentation:
                                          0_1478094689558_upload-93242040-4814-4ad6-8951-4ad4d1e99a23
                                          But you are welcome to submit a pull request for adding support for I2C variants of ATSHA204a. I have none myself so I have not bothered looking into that and currently I am out of time to spend on it I am afraid.

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                                          @Anticimex said:
                                          But you are welcome to submit a pull request for adding support for I2C variants of ATSHA204a. I have none myself so I have not bothered looking into that and currently I am out of time to spend on it I am afraid.

                                          Please excuse my noobish ignorance: How and where do I submit one?

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