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[security] Introducing signing support to MySensors

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    tbowmo
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    #48

    @phil83

    mouser.com got it in stock, they will deliver to europe as well :)

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      @tbowmo Thanks for the info. I found mouser this morning as well but they charge me 20€ for shipping :-(.

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        @phil83

        You just need to make an order big enough, then they drop the handling charge :-)

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          Any other Europeans interested in getting some chips from mouser? I could redistribute from Germany via letter. ;-)

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            hello, i'm making some mysensors board that I'll present you a bit later and I've add a place for the Atsha204 sot23-3.

            I can't find it in Europe still and I would like to know if is it possible ton connect it on pin A6 instead of pin A3. I would like to keep the A0 to A5 for the user and use A6 for Atsha204 and A7 for Atcha204 floating point. Can anyone test it for me please?

            Thank's verry much!

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            • T Tibus

              hello, i'm making some mysensors board that I'll present you a bit later and I've add a place for the Atsha204 sot23-3.

              I can't find it in Europe still and I would like to know if is it possible ton connect it on pin A6 instead of pin A3. I would like to keep the A0 to A5 for the user and use A6 for Atsha204 and A7 for Atcha204 floating point. Can anyone test it for me please?

              Thank's verry much!

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              Anticimex
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              #53

              @Tibus No, you cant. A6 and A7 are analog-only pins. Also, make sure you order ATSHA204A. Not ATSHA204. ATSHA uses no "floating point". Just single wire digital interface.

              Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                #54

                Ok, So I've to connect it on A3 (default value in mysensor?) and let the A7 floating? The A6 is not used so? (other question : I can't use digitalWrite on A6 pin?)

                Thank's verry much for the details on ATSHA204A instead of ATSHA204. The ATSHA204A is in SOT23-3 too? so the A7 is only use inside the Atmega library?

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                • T Tibus

                  Ok, So I've to connect it on A3 (default value in mysensor?) and let the A7 floating? The A6 is not used so? (other question : I can't use digitalWrite on A6 pin?)

                  Thank's verry much for the details on ATSHA204A instead of ATSHA204. The ATSHA204A is in SOT23-3 too? so the A7 is only use inside the Atmega library?

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                  #55

                  @Tibus A6 and A7 are analog input pins. You can use them as such but not as digital I/O.
                  ATSHA204A is identical but more feature-rich compared to ATSHA204. One added feature is a SHA256 which is required for MySensors use. ATSHA204 is discontinued by Atmel. You can connect the ATSHA to any digital I/O pin you like but you will have to patch the config if you pick anything not called "A3".

                  Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                    #56

                    Ok, thank's! I've already change every A6 pin connection to A3. Can the user use A3 for analogic even if ATSHA204 is connected on it? or do I have to remove the A3 pin available for the user?

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                    • T Tibus

                      Ok, thank's! I've already change every A6 pin connection to A3. Can the user use A3 for analogic even if ATSHA204 is connected on it? or do I have to remove the A3 pin available for the user?

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                      Anticimex
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                      #57

                      @Tibus You have to check the datasheet of ATSHA204A to see how it handles the datapin when not in use. I would recommend you have any analog cirquitry on dedicated pins though and keep one reserved for the ATSHA.

                      Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                      • AnticimexA Anticimex

                        @Tibus You have to check the datasheet of ATSHA204A to see how it handles the datapin when not in use. I would recommend you have any analog cirquitry on dedicated pins though and keep one reserved for the ATSHA.

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                        #58

                        @Anticimex

                        The "analog" pins can actually be used as digital IO pins.

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                        • hekH hek

                          @Anticimex

                          The "analog" pins can actually be used as digital IO pins.

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                          Anticimex
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                          #59

                          @hek Not A6 and A7. They are pure analog.

                          Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                            hek
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                            #60

                            Ok! That's new to me :)

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                            • hekH hek

                              Ok! That's new to me :)

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                              Anticimex
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                              #61

                              @hek @tbowmo also found this the "hard" way. There are also some other forum discussions on the topic. It is basically how the AVR is designed.

                              Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                @hek @Anticimex

                                Yeah. I put the led on A6 in the first revision of the micro board, and used 2 hours figuring out why the led wouldn't blink ;) it's buried somewhere in the posts in my design thread.

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                                  I had this concerned from beginning. I will sound like a noon, but I am working on building a custom controller with loads of user configurable interface. For sake of my understanding is there any diagram or video or any resource regarding how to interface the ATSHA204A with arduino @Anticimex .
                                  If there is something like that it will be of a great help. I am going to post a video soon of my work in progress app which controls the devices. I am also working on a scenario where someone can use the normal switches(existing ones) to operate the device and app will update accordingly. Still making way through the ACK part and the hops as I am using Ruby to do all the work

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                                    I had this concerned from beginning. I will sound like a noon, but I am working on building a custom controller with loads of user configurable interface. For sake of my understanding is there any diagram or video or any resource regarding how to interface the ATSHA204A with arduino @Anticimex .
                                    If there is something like that it will be of a great help. I am going to post a video soon of my work in progress app which controls the devices. I am also working on a scenario where someone can use the normal switches(existing ones) to operate the device and app will update accordingly. Still making way through the ACK part and the hops as I am using Ruby to do all the work

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                                    Anticimex
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                                    @mainali What do you mean? It is the simplest possible interface; one IO pin. You can see schematics in @tbowmo s "Minimal design thoughts" thread or my own GW design.

                                    Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                      #65

                                      @mainali
                                      Does this help you? Sometimes a few pics say more than a 1000 words :)

                                      I made this pic from the Datasheet giving you the pinouts of the ATSHA204A in all known housings.
                                      ATSHA204Apins.jpg

                                      And the way how to connect is (shamelessly stolen from the GW design of @Anticimex :) )
                                      ATSHA204Aconnect.jpg

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                                        @mainali
                                        Does this help you? Sometimes a few pics say more than a 1000 words :)

                                        I made this pic from the Datasheet giving you the pinouts of the ATSHA204A in all known housings.
                                        ATSHA204Apins.jpg

                                        And the way how to connect is (shamelessly stolen from the GW design of @Anticimex :) )
                                        ATSHA204Aconnect.jpg

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                                        Anticimex
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                                        wrote on last edited by Anticimex
                                        #66

                                        @sj44k @mainali Please note that that picture is incorrect. I have it connected to A3, not A7 (it is mentioned in the thread). Also note that in my design, I use a breakout board for ATSHA so the pin numbering on my breakout does NOT correspond to the SOT23-package.

                                        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                          mainali
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                                          #67

                                          Thanks a lot for all the Information

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