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  • nutcrackerN nutcracker

    Hi,

    I've received some boards and all working good.

    I'd like to upload a new sketch to the Sensebender Micro board and I'm attempting to do this via the FTDI FT232RL USB to TTL serial converter adapter that I purchased here (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221552218333).

    Could someone kindly confirm the pin to pin mapping between the FTDI board and the Senseboard Micro as when I attempt to upload I receive the message:

       Programmer Type : butterfly
             Description     : Atmel AppNote AVR109 Boot Loader
    
    Connecting to programmer: .avrdude: butterfly_recv(): programmer is not responding
    
    Problem uploading to board.  See http://www.arduino.cc/en/Guide/Troubleshooting#upload for suggestions.
    

    I'm using Arduino 1.6.5 running on Windows 8.1 (inside parallels on a Mac).

    Any ideas?

    Thank you

    Nutz

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    hek
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    wrote on last edited by
    #150

    @nutcracker

    I usually use the GND pin as a guide.
    What happens if you run Arduino IDE directly in your native OS?

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      wrote on last edited by nutcracker
      #151

      Thanks @hek. I've had to run Arduino on Windows before because of compatibility issues with certain chip sets on Arduino boards and I didn't fancy running unsigned drivers on my Mac to resolve... I'm able to upload sketches to other boards with no issues.

      That said, I've updated Arduino to 1.6.5 on my Mac and have attempted to upload the default Sensebendermicro.ino sketch to the micro with a similar error:

      Arduino: 1.6.5 (Mac OS X), Board: "Arduino Micro"
      
      Build options changed, rebuilding all
      
      Sketch uses 26,414 bytes (92%) of program storage space. Maximum is 28,672 bytes.
      Global variables use 799 bytes (31%) of dynamic memory, leaving 1,761 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 2,560 bytes.
      Found programmer: Id = "�d��b�"; type = F
          Software Version = �.�; Hardware Version = �.�
      avrdude: error: buffered memory access not supported. Maybe it isn't
      a butterfly/AVR109 but a AVR910 device?
      Problem uploading to board.  See http://www.arduino.cc/en/Guide/Troubleshooting#upload for suggestions.
      
        This report would have more information with
        "Show verbose output during compilation"
        enabled in File > Preferences.
      
      

      With verbose output enabled:

      avrdude: Version 6.0.1, compiled on Apr 14 2015 at 16:30:25
               Copyright (c) 2000-2005 Brian Dean, http://www.bdmicro.com/
               Copyright (c) 2007-2009 Joerg Wunsch
      
               System wide configuration file is "/Applications/Arduino.app/Contents/Java/hardware/tools/avr/etc/avrdude.conf"
               User configuration file is "/Users/nutcracker/.avrduderc"
               User configuration file does not exist or is not a regular file, skipping
      
               Using Port                    : /dev/cu.usbserial-A50285BI
               Using Programmer              : avr109
               Overriding Baud Rate          : 57600
               AVR Part                      : ATmega32U4
               Chip Erase delay              : 9000 us
               PAGEL                         : PD7
               BS2                           : PA0
               RESET disposition             : dedicated
               RETRY pulse                   : SCK
               serial program mode           : yes
               parallel program mode         : yes
               Timeout                       : 200
               StabDelay                     : 100
               CmdexeDelay                   : 25
               SyncLoops                     : 32
               ByteDelay                     : 0
               PollIndex                     : 3
               PollValue                     : 0x53
               Memory Detail                 :
      
                                        Block Poll               Page                       Polled
                 Memory Type Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
                 ----------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
                 eeprom        65    20     4    0 no       1024    4      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                 flash         65     6   128    0 yes     32768  128    256  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                 lfuse          0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                 hfuse          0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                 efuse          0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                 lock           0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  9000  9000 0x00 0x00
                 calibration    0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0     0     0 0x00 0x00
                 signature      0     0     0    0 no          3    0      0     0     0 0x00 0x00
      
               Programmer Type : butterfly
               Description     : Atmel AppNote AVR109 Boot Loader
      
      Connecting to programmer: .avrdude: butterfly_recv(): programmer is not responding
      Problem uploading to board.  See http://www.arduino.cc/en/Guide/Troubleshooting#upload for suggestions.
      

      Nutz

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        wrote on last edited by
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        @nutcracker said:

        Maybe it isn't
        a butterfly/AVR109 but a AVR910 device?

        Is your programmer setting in Arduino IDE set to "USBasp"?

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          wrote on last edited by
          #153

          Hi @hek, I've never had to change the programmer setting before... I've changed it to USBasp and re-uploaded but same error. I've always used the menu options Sketch=>Upload to upload a sketch to the board. Should I be using Sketch=>Upload via programmer for this micro board ? If so, that fails too but something to do with it not being able to find the USB device.

          avrdude: Version 6.0.1, compiled on Apr 14 2015 at 16:30:25
                   Copyright (c) 2000-2005 Brian Dean, http://www.bdmicro.com/
                   Copyright (c) 2007-2009 Joerg Wunsch
          
                   System wide configuration file is "/Applications/Arduino.app/Contents/Java/hardware/tools/avr/etc/avrdude.conf"
                   User configuration file is "/Users/nutcracker/.avrduderc"
                   User configuration file does not exist or is not a regular file, skipping
          
                   Using Port                    : usb
                   Using Programmer              : usbasp
          avrdude: error: could not find USB device with vid=0x16c0 pid=0x5dc vendor='www.fischl.de' product='USBasp'
          
          avrdude done.  Thank you.
          

          Nutz

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            wrote on last edited by
            #154

            Hmm. I think I understand what the problem is now. You've selected the "Arduino Micro" board. Not our "MySensors/Sensebender Micro" .

            Did you follow the instructions here?
            http://www.mysensors.org/hardware/micro-ide-setup

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              wrote on last edited by
              #155

              Thanks @hek, I also realised my mistake once I retraced my steps...I hadn't scrolled down fully on that screenshot that shows the Sensebender Micro board... I think what through me is that screenshot also shows a "dot" against another board - the Arduino Micro board...and I was selecting that... duh! (may be worth changing the screenshot? ;))

              Anyway, thanks for your help...sketch uploaded perfectly after that!

              avrdude: Version 6.0.1, compiled on Apr 14 2015 at 16:30:25
                       Copyright (c) 2000-2005 Brian Dean, http://www.bdmicro.com/
                       Copyright (c) 2007-2009 Joerg Wunsch
              
                       System wide configuration file is "/Applications/Arduino.app/Contents/Java/hardware/tools/avr/etc/avrdude.conf"
                       User configuration file is "/Users/nutcracker/.avrduderc"
                       User configuration file does not exist or is not a regular file, skipping
              
                       Using Port                    : /dev/cu.usbserial-A50285BI
                       Using Programmer              : arduino
                       Overriding Baud Rate          : 57600
                       AVR Part                      : ATmega328P
                       Chip Erase delay              : 9000 us
                       PAGEL                         : PD7
                       BS2                           : PC2
                       RESET disposition             : dedicated
                       RETRY pulse                   : SCK
                       serial program mode           : yes
                       parallel program mode         : yes
                       Timeout                       : 200
                       StabDelay                     : 100
                       CmdexeDelay                   : 25
                       SyncLoops                     : 32
                       ByteDelay                     : 0
                       PollIndex                     : 3
                       PollValue                     : 0x53
                       Memory Detail                 :
              
                                                Block Poll               Page                       Polled
                         Memory Type Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
                         ----------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
                         eeprom        65    20     4    0 no       1024    4      0  3600  3600 0xff 0xff
                         flash         65     6   128    0 yes     32768  128    256  4500  4500 0xff 0xff
                         lfuse          0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                         hfuse          0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                         efuse          0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                         lock           0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                         calibration    0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0     0     0 0x00 0x00
                         signature      0     0     0    0 no          3    0      0     0     0 0x00 0x00
              
                       Programmer Type : Arduino
                       Description     : Arduino
                       Hardware Version: 3
                       Firmware Version: 5.0
                       Vtarget         : 0.3 V
                       Varef           : 0.3 V
                       Oscillator      : 28.800 kHz
                       SCK period      : 3.3 us
              
              avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions
              
              Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s
              
              avrdude: Device signature = 0x1e950f
              avrdude: reading input file "/var/folders/r3/_6srq76n0mz4kmh86hsy4y2m0000gn/T/build4750928375396503439.tmp/SensebenderMicro.cpp.hex"
              avrdude: writing flash (23678 bytes):
              
              Writing | ################################################## | 100% 8.84s
              
              avrdude: 23678 bytes of flash written
              avrdude: verifying flash memory against /var/folders/r3/_6srq76n0mz4kmh86hsy4y2m0000gn/T/build4750928375396503439.tmp/SensebenderMicro.cpp.hex:
              avrdude: load data flash data from input file /var/folders/r3/_6srq76n0mz4kmh86hsy4y2m0000gn/T/build4750928375396503439.tmp/SensebenderMicro.cpp.hex:
              avrdude: input file /var/folders/r3/_6srq76n0mz4kmh86hsy4y2m0000gn/T/build4750928375396503439.tmp/SensebenderMicro.cpp.hex contains 23678 bytes
              avrdude: reading on-chip flash data:
              
              Reading | ################################################## | 100% 9.94s
              
              avrdude: verifying ...
              avrdude: 23678 bytes of flash verified
              
              avrdude done.  Thank you.
              

              Cheers!

              Nutz

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                #156

                Ah... there is a dot in the menu-image. Will update it. Thanks.

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                  Ah... there is a dot in the menu-image. Will update it. Thanks.

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                  #157

                  @hek Interesting.. I didn't know this.. I used the standard Pro Mini 3v3 and it worked...????

                  RJ_Make

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                    gloob
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                    #158

                    Received my Micros today. Luckily there was no custom and a lot of pins to solder. Can't wait to solder them on wednesday on work and test them.

                    Is there any instruction how to solder everything? On which side the radio module needs to be soldered.

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                      Received my Micros today. Luckily there was no custom and a lot of pins to solder. Can't wait to solder them on wednesday on work and test them.

                      Is there any instruction how to solder everything? On which side the radio module needs to be soldered.

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                      @gloob

                      This might help you out :)

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                        I hope this question has not been answered already and I did not miss the answer. I was thinking about connecting a motion sensor to this and was hoping that one of the digital pins supports an interrupt. Is there an interrupt available?

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                          @gbfromhb

                          D3 is available on the side-pins. D2 is routed to the radio but can be used with some hacking.

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                          • G gbfromhb

                            I hope this question has not been answered already and I did not miss the answer. I was thinking about connecting a motion sensor to this and was hoping that one of the digital pins supports an interrupt. Is there an interrupt available?

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                            #162

                            @gbfromhb said:

                            I hope this question has not been answered already and I did not miss the answer. I was thinking about connecting a motion sensor to this and was hoping that one of the digital pins supports an interrupt. Is there an interrupt available?

                            I'm planning to do the same thing.
                            i ordered my 5v step up regulators to support the PIR sensor.
                            although I hope adding the motion isnt going to kill the batteries.

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                              @mvader
                              I have so far had no problems running my PIR sensors at 3.3v with the following hack.

                              http://techgurka.blogspot.com/2013/05/cheap-pyroelectric-infrared-pir-motion.html

                              You can not do this with all PIR Sensors from what I understand, but one of the ones listed in the MySensors store is what I've been using. Go down to the bottom of the article.

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                                @Hek
                                Thanks, I saw the D3, but I'm new enough to this adventure that I was not sure if I should have assumed that it also had an interrupt like all the other boards.

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                                  @gbfromhb

                                  I tried to keep the naming, and pins on the atmega, the same as an ordinary arduino :)

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                                    @mvader
                                    I have so far had no problems running my PIR sensors at 3.3v with the following hack.

                                    http://techgurka.blogspot.com/2013/05/cheap-pyroelectric-infrared-pir-motion.html

                                    You can not do this with all PIR Sensors from what I understand, but one of the ones listed in the MySensors store is what I've been using. Go down to the bottom of the article.

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                                    @gbfromhb said:

                                    @mvader
                                    I have so far had no problems running my PIR sensors at 3.3v with the following hack.

                                    http://techgurka.blogspot.com/2013/05/cheap-pyroelectric-infrared-pir-motion.html

                                    You can not do this with all PIR Sensors from what I understand, but one of the ones listed in the MySensors store is what I've been using. Go down to the bottom of the article.

                                    wow.. nice.. thanks for the info! I will give this a go asap.

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                                      Hello,

                                      I have one more question. Is it possible to power the micro from the ftdi pins? I would like to use jumper wires.

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                                        @gloob

                                        Yes it's possible to power it from the FTDI pins, if you want to..

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                                          Are there any recommendations for a low power temperature, humidity sensor regarding the update cycle.

                                          Currently I plan to wake up the sensor each 10 minutes instead of each 1 minute to update the values. This should increase the duration of the battery. A complete update of all values if performed each 30 minutes as usual.

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