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  • A aproxx

    @scalz Yeah usually I'm going for 45 degree angles as well, but I guess I just forgot for those few. However I do have full confidence in Dirty PCBs, so I'm sure there wouldn't be any disruptions in the trace.

    Regarding trace thickness/width: I've been doing some calculations as well, but with 1oz copper traces I would need extremely wide traces to come up with a decent copper volume. So my plan is to solder a thin wire at the bottom side of the PCB between the AC connection points. That's why I've got the AC and 5v DC circuits separated as much as possible. :)

    But thanks for the feedback anyway! And congrats on taking the first step of ordering the board! I'll be doing the same tomorrow.

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    @aproxx If I want to buy this module then.........
    If you sell this module then I am ready to buy ...

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      @jemish I've made some minor changes to the board (nothing functional has been changed, just some updated silk screen and modified the 90 degree angles to 45 degree angles.)

      Please be aware that at this moment the board still isn't confirmed to be working. If you want to be 100% sure everything works properly, I strongly advise to wait for another 5-7 weeks. That way I can assemble the board myself and confirm everything is working as expected.

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        yes I like to wait for your responce.
        please reply fast as possible.

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          @DrJeff said:

          Just Kidding I need to get my dimmers working properly also. You got the zerocross working right? 220v 110v? share sketch? will yours work locally with gateway off?

          Yes the zerocrossing is working right. Shouldn't working with gateway off only be a matter of programming? ^^
          Built vor 220V, but should also run at 110V (with different resistors), need to check the specifications of the combonents again to verify that.

          I got no working MySensors sketch or a drawn pcb layout yet, but i can describe how it works.
          Left connectors are (up to down): LOAD: Phase, Neutral; Source: Neutral, Phase
          Right connectors are (up to down): GND, PWM Output, Zero-Crossing Input, VCC

          The Zerocrossing detection is done by the bridge rectifier and the zerocrossing detection module 4N25.
          The Signal goes to a INT-Pin of an arduino.

          In a test sketch i use a timer and the interrupt to do the correct pwm output.
          The pwm output goes to the MOC3021 (Opto) that will fire the TRIAC seen left from it.

          Little test sketch:

          #include  <TimerOne.h>
          
          //Config
          int INTPin = 0;
          int outputPin = 11;
          int dimLevel = 64; // Dim level (0(on)-128(off))
          int freqStep = 75; //50Hz, should be 65 for 60Hz
          
          //Global
          volatile int i=0; // Counter. Only fire if i >= dimLevel
          volatile boolean zeroCross=0;
          
          void setup() {                                      
            pinMode(outputPin, OUTPUT);
            attachInterrupt(INTPin, zero_cross_detect, RISING);
            Timer1.initialize(freqStep);
            Timer1.attachInterrupt(dim_check, freqStep);                                           
          }
          
          void zero_cross_detect() {    
            zeroCross = true;
            i=0;
            digitalWrite(outputPin, LOW);
          }                                 
          
          void dim_check() {                   
            if(zeroCross == true) {              
              if(i>=dimLevel) {                     
                digitalWrite(outputPin, HIGH);
                i=0;
                zeroCross = false;
              } 
              else {
                i++;                    
              }                                
            }                                  
          }                                   
          
          void loop() {                        
          }
          
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          @Oitzu
          I seem to get all this working outside of MYSensors but I have very limited cut and paste ability in code. :) So what I was wondering do you have the sketch for controlling the dimmer and just firing the triac integrated with MYSensors yet?

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          • A aproxx

            @jemish I've made some minor changes to the board (nothing functional has been changed, just some updated silk screen and modified the 90 degree angles to 45 degree angles.)

            Please be aware that at this moment the board still isn't confirmed to be working. If you want to be 100% sure everything works properly, I strongly advise to wait for another 5-7 weeks. That way I can assemble the board myself and confirm everything is working as expected.

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            @aproxx so now, what is the progress??
            we will wait for your response.

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              @jemish
              All components are at my desk at the moment. The only thing missing is.. The PCB itself. :)
              DirtyPCBs' website states that the board was shipped to me at August 24. My packets from China usually arrive about 2 or 3 weeks after they have been sent from China, so I expect it to arrive somewhere next week.
              After the boards have arrived I'll make sure to have it assembled in less than a week. :)

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                @jemish
                All components are at my desk at the moment. The only thing missing is.. The PCB itself. :)
                DirtyPCBs' website states that the board was shipped to me at August 24. My packets from China usually arrive about 2 or 3 weeks after they have been sent from China, so I expect it to arrive somewhere next week.
                After the boards have arrived I'll make sure to have it assembled in less than a week. :)

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                @aproxx please upload new design new that you make now.

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                  @jemish : The design which I've posted 2 weeks ago (A few posts above this one) is the latest design I have.

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                    but, you said that you want to change something like 45 degree or 90 degree, so that ....

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                      @jemish : Yes, but that's already included in the design which I posted above.

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                      • A aproxx

                        @jemish : Yes, but that's already included in the design which I posted above.

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                        @aproxx can you make design for 2- relay board....

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                        • A aproxx

                          @jemish : Yes, but that's already included in the design which I posted above.

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                          @aproxx so, now what is the progress....we are waiting your response.....

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                            I received the newly designed PCB last weekend, and have been soldering/testing the board since it arrived. Just a few minor changes to the layout (not the schematic) and the board should be completely finished! So far the results look promising.
                            @jemish: I'm currently re-working the design a bit and working on documentation, but I'll make sure to post the new and completely finished design by the end of the week!

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                              #66

                              As promised, I've got an update for this project. The board has been tested in the past week, and everything is working as expected. Compared to the previous board I've posted, I have updated the following:
                              • Solder pads of LE33CZ have been placed a little wider apart to avoid short circuit while soldering.
                              • Solder pads of the resettable fuse (Fuse2) has been placed closer together to better fit the fuses of the BOM.
                              • Moved the NRF24L01 connector a bit away from the solid state relay. Should make it easier to solder.
                              • Moved Fuse2 to another location on the board, away from the 230v circuit.

                              Some 3D pictures (Top and bottom):
                              Top.png
                              Bottom.png

                              Anyone who is interested can order the PCB HERE

                              Some documentation, and all gerber / DipTrace files (in case you would like to make some modifications) can be found here: MySensors board v3.2.3.zip.

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                                I just ordered 20. Can't think what I will need them all for but better to be looking at them than looking for them :-)

                                Great work! Thanks!

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                                • A aproxx

                                  As promised, I've got an update for this project. The board has been tested in the past week, and everything is working as expected. Compared to the previous board I've posted, I have updated the following:
                                  • Solder pads of LE33CZ have been placed a little wider apart to avoid short circuit while soldering.
                                  • Solder pads of the resettable fuse (Fuse2) has been placed closer together to better fit the fuses of the BOM.
                                  • Moved the NRF24L01 connector a bit away from the solid state relay. Should make it easier to solder.
                                  • Moved Fuse2 to another location on the board, away from the 230v circuit.

                                  Some 3D pictures (Top and bottom):
                                  Top.png
                                  Bottom.png

                                  Anyone who is interested can order the PCB HERE

                                  Some documentation, and all gerber / DipTrace files (in case you would like to make some modifications) can be found here: MySensors board v3.2.3.zip.

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                                  @aproxx I guess you use a different Arduino Pro Mini as the one in the 3D view, because its row of pins pointing towards us seems to get awfully close to the mains coming from "Power in", right?

                                  http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                    @aproxx I guess you use a different Arduino Pro Mini as the one in the 3D view, because its row of pins pointing towards us seems to get awfully close to the mains coming from "Power in", right?

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                                    @Yveaux
                                    I believe those are for the serial connection that usually are pointing up, or back for programing? It looks like they are just rendered as down in the 3D image? But I am curious how the clearance for the components on the other side (HLK) is when they are soldered, does it need some space off the board?

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                                    • A aproxx

                                      As promised, I've got an update for this project. The board has been tested in the past week, and everything is working as expected. Compared to the previous board I've posted, I have updated the following:
                                      • Solder pads of LE33CZ have been placed a little wider apart to avoid short circuit while soldering.
                                      • Solder pads of the resettable fuse (Fuse2) has been placed closer together to better fit the fuses of the BOM.
                                      • Moved the NRF24L01 connector a bit away from the solid state relay. Should make it easier to solder.
                                      • Moved Fuse2 to another location on the board, away from the 230v circuit.

                                      Some 3D pictures (Top and bottom):
                                      Top.png
                                      Bottom.png

                                      Anyone who is interested can order the PCB HERE

                                      Some documentation, and all gerber / DipTrace files (in case you would like to make some modifications) can be found here: MySensors board v3.2.3.zip.

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                                      AWI
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                                      @aproxx Could you share some photo's of the mounted board to get some feel or the 'real' thing? thanks

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                                      • YveauxY Yveaux

                                        @aproxx I guess you use a different Arduino Pro Mini as the one in the 3D view, because its row of pins pointing towards us seems to get awfully close to the mains coming from "Power in", right?

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                                        @Yveaux: I'm using the standard Arduino Nano, but I agree that the 3D view looks a bit worrying. In real life it isn't needed to solder this row of pins to the Arduino, so it should be safe. So the assumption of @DrJeff is correct!
                                        The only reason why these pins look connected to the board is because I couldn't find a 3D design of the Arduino nano without these 6 pins soldered. :)
                                        But thanks for pointing this out, I'll add it to the documentation to make sure people aren't getting confused.

                                        @AWI: I'll try and see if I can take some decent pictures when I get home (in approximately 12 hours) and post them up here!

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                                          For those who wanted to see some pictures of the board:
                                          IMG_20150921_194059 (Small).jpg IMG_20150921_194039 (Small).jpg IMG_20150921_194035 (Small).jpg IMG_20150921_194023 (Small).jpg IMG_20150921_192748 (Small).jpg IMG_20150921_192737 (Small).jpg IMG_20150921_192728 (Small).jpg

                                          Small notice: These pictures are of a slightly older design. The newer design has a few minor changes like better component placement and a permanent fuse instead of this resettable fuse. But these pictures should at least give you an idea on how everything looks like, and shows how really small it actually is.
                                          Also, I reinforced the traces of the 230v lines, which I absolutely recommend to do! (Although I do recommend to do it slightly more professional than I did on this prototype :))

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