Open Source Home Automation (Raspberry)

[hek]

No, I haven't seen any new MySensors documentation on their wiki yet. Rob is on a business trip so I doubt there will be any the coming couple of weeks.

[GaryStofer]

@hek @AWI Ahhh beta feed! Yes, that helped. Now I need to figure out Why I get LUA / Blockly errors on all events. Something about a nil utilitidevice . Thanks !

[A Former User]

 It also has to be real AUTOMATION in the sense that you can build long and complicated scenes that can respond to changing condition in and around the house, preferably in some nice graphical interface where you just drag and drop the building blocks (Blockly).

The perfect solution to build such scenarios is to use Matlab/Simulink/Stateflow and model based design. In this way you can graphically develop control algorithms, state machines and simulate them in PC before you ever start testing them on real home. This is much faster, and it is also industry standard in automation, cars, avionics and space. Afterwards with just few clicks you can generate C code, which will run on any hardware. The code is totaly hardware independent - they have targets for Raspberry, Arduino, Lego Mindstorms etc.
The only problem - it costs some good money.
So finally all you need - is an automation software, which can execute C code.

[jkandasa]

@bjornhallberg @hek Can you add MyController.org in to Free / Open Source list as it is supporting for Raspberry PI?

MyController.org [JAVA] (SERIAL/ETHERNET/MQTT)

[m26872]

Why isn't ETHERNET listed with Fhem? I've been using eth-gw perfectly for two months now.

[bjornhallberg]

@m26872 Ok. Changed!

[John]

Hi @bjornhallberg,

We have been updating our website from wordpress to a self hosted platform on http://pidome.org, This means the url pidome.wordpress.com will be obsoleted and http://pidome.org is the new location.

Could you update the url?

Thanks in advance and cheers,
John.

[hek]

@bjornhallberg

Please add Calaos and openLuup to the list.

[John]

@bjornhallberg Thanks for the change!

P.S. i recently also added support for local /dev/tty* serial ports which weans that also the GPIO gateway solution is available (http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2389/added-support-for-local-mysensors-rpi-direct-radio-connection). I know changes are a bit scattered but also is my implementation schedule, sorry ;).

Cheers!

[bjornhallberg]

@John @hek Done! Now also alphabetized. 100% less OCD :-)

[Bluefox]

Include ioBroker. We support mySensors over MQTT protocol.
ioBroker has over 80 adapters/drivers and all of them developed with Javascript (node.js)

[TRS-80]

@bjornhallberg (+ others in this thread),

Interesting thread, great discussion about the pros and cons of various systems. I think we all go through these thoughts in our own heads at one point or another, some of us jumping in and trying different systems one after the other (which is sometimes the only way to REALLY know the system, as you correctly point out) and others (like me, and some others) prefer to read and read and plan a lot before jumping into something.

At any rate, the longer I keep evaluating different technology solutions (and this applies in general, could be anything from an email client, to a Home Automation solution) the more and more I keep going in the direction of evaluating a project more and more on their merits as an overall project, which largely is a function of who is leading the project and their stated goals, as well as the friendliness, talent, and numbers of the community that coalesces around that project. Also I think the lack of a profit motive (or at least, not so much of a greedy, overwhelming one) tends to end up benefiting the end user. I think all of these factors together will insure the ultimate success (or failure) of any given project (and most especially, how well it will end up benefiting THE END USER (i.e., you and I) )!

And so, after running into the various roadblocks (as have been described in this thread, which seem to usually be the results of financial interests of some company pushing proprietary, disparate systems, and/or the seeming trend of oversimplification of technology, as brought on by the introduction of the iPhone to the unwashed masses, etc...) I keep moving more and more in the direction of free and open source software. Which in and of itself is not enough. You also must have the good leadership, vision, and community as I mentioned above.

I find all of these criteria here in spades at MySensors, which is why I have decided to become a part of this wonderful, talented community!

Which brings me to my point. If you then go on and evaluate Controllers using the same criteria (and I have), I feel that OpenHab is the logical conclusion, and natural kindred spirit for a Controller for your MySensors network.

That is not to disparage any other communities or projects that anyone here is involved in. I think that, to a certain extent, and in a more general sense, that competing systems are good for everyone. However, in the Home Automation space, which I have been watching for a very very long time, there are TOO many different competing (and more importantly, non-interoperable) systems. What we have always needed is One System To Rule Them All (OK, perhaps rule is too strong a word, so instead let's say, allow for universal interoperability :) ). That way, the end users are free to pick and choose from all the various solutions available on the market, and know that they will have one system that will be able to tie everything together should they need to get something they really like from company A and make it work with some other thing from company B , or add some other functionality down the road, etc.

I have read a lot already, and I have more to read still, but it seems to me that (based on what I know right now) ultimately, OpenHab should be the project that those who feel as I do should throw their weight behind, and support into (hopefully) becoming that One System To Rule Them All (or Universal Glue, if you prefer).

This is just my 2 cents as someone who has been looking into Home Automation on and off for many many years and never fully took the plunge, as the stuff was too expensive and/or there were always a number of disparate, often proprietary, systems (that would not work together). I feel that all of the factors are coming together (inexpensive components, open source hardware and software, the maker movement and growing size of community) to finally allow the dream I think we have all had for a very long time to finally be fully realized. And I am very excited about that.

Sorry for such a long first post, I am just very excited to be here, and to see where we are at now and where we are going with inexpensive, open source Home Automation. And hopefully to eventually contribute something useful to the community, and in turn help the general state of DIY Home Automation move forward. :)

[hek]

@bjornhallberg

Please add the HoMiDoM controller. Supports MySensors through the serial interface.
http://www.homidom.com/driver-MySensors-c89.html

[Patrick Côté]

Home Assistant now support ethernet gateway

[jsiddall]

I just committed a controller module for Misterhouse if you want to update the list. Supports both serial and Ethernet gateways.

[hek]

@jsiddall

Thank you for creating a MySensors Misterhouse module!

[jsiddall]

@hek

Actually, now that I think about it, Misterhouse also has support for MQTT so you can probably list all three gateways for Misterhouse. Sorry for forgetting about that one in my initial post.

[hek]

The question is if it recognize MySensors topics and do things like hand out ids over MQTT.

[jsiddall]

@hek said:

The question is if it recognize MySensors topics and do things like hand out ids over MQTT.

Hmmm... good point. Hand out IDs, no, not out of the box, but set/req should work. For now I am fine to leave MQTT off and I will look at what would need to be done to add basic MYS specific internal support.

[A Former User]

This list seems the most complete list of available Home Automation Software and not only open-source and not only for MySensors.
I have some proposals:

• is it possible to add voting here to see, who has selected what software and see what is the most popular HA platform?
• OpenRemote seems to be more commercial, than open source. In free version it's so limited, that almost unusable.
• You can add some more Commercial Software in the list, but not sure how they can support mysensors:
  --Eve Server http://www.ilevia.com/eve-server/
  -- Iridium Server http://www.iridiummobile.net/server/

Regards