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Battery life of sensors.

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  • SweebeeS Offline
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    I have some sensors running for months. The sensors send their battery life to the controller. 3.3V = 100% 1.9V = 0%.

    But the sensors stop working around 40-45%. The voltage is around 2.5V. I tested all the sensors on 1.9V and they all worked fine. But i think the current is the problem. The batteries can't deliver enough power to let the sensor send data with the NRF.

    I used zinc chloride batteries. Don't know if Alkalines are better? All the sensors use 10-20uF capacitors.

    Is there a way to improve this?

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    • SweebeeS Sweebee

      I have some sensors running for months. The sensors send their battery life to the controller. 3.3V = 100% 1.9V = 0%.

      But the sensors stop working around 40-45%. The voltage is around 2.5V. I tested all the sensors on 1.9V and they all worked fine. But i think the current is the problem. The batteries can't deliver enough power to let the sensor send data with the NRF.

      I used zinc chloride batteries. Don't know if Alkalines are better? All the sensors use 10-20uF capacitors.

      Is there a way to improve this?

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      Sparkman
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      @Sweebee Most zinc-chloride batteries are marketed as "heavy duty". They are anything but that. You should get much better performance with alkaline batteries.

      Cheers
      Al

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        Thanks, I will try that.

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        • SweebeeS Sweebee

          I have some sensors running for months. The sensors send their battery life to the controller. 3.3V = 100% 1.9V = 0%.

          But the sensors stop working around 40-45%. The voltage is around 2.5V. I tested all the sensors on 1.9V and they all worked fine. But i think the current is the problem. The batteries can't deliver enough power to let the sensor send data with the NRF.

          I used zinc chloride batteries. Don't know if Alkalines are better? All the sensors use 10-20uF capacitors.

          Is there a way to improve this?

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          m26872
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          @Sweebee
          Perhaps you've got the BOD Level set to 2.7 V ?

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            @Sweebee
            Perhaps you've got the BOD Level set to 2.7 V ?

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            @m26872 .. which is default for most. My battery used to cut off slightly over (readVcc-measured) 2.7V, now they're down to 2.6 after changing BOD level to 1.8 instead. Requires external programmer like USBtinyISP or so.

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              Bod is disabled. And the proccessor is running On 1 MHz (custom bootloader).

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                Opened all my pir/light sensors to look what batteries were inside. I have 1 node thats on 38% with zinc philips batteries and still work fine. the ones with panasonic zinc batteries died around 40-45%. I have some with GP alkaline that are still around 70-80% so have to wait what they will do (looks like they don't drop as quickly as the zinc batteries).

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                • SweebeeS Sweebee

                  Opened all my pir/light sensors to look what batteries were inside. I have 1 node thats on 38% with zinc philips batteries and still work fine. the ones with panasonic zinc batteries died around 40-45%. I have some with GP alkaline that are still around 70-80% so have to wait what they will do (looks like they don't drop as quickly as the zinc batteries).

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                  @Sweebee
                  Is the remaining charge (voltage) equal between the two discharged batteries?

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                    I have heard somewhere that zinc-chloride batteries are not suitable for this kind of application. I have also been testing various batteries, all alkaline. Basically I have found you get what you pay for. I tried some local supermarket branded alkaline's and had your result. About 45% they just died. Then I tested a different 'cheap' brand, same result. Upgraded to more expensive brand name and got to ~20% consistently. Then tried top of the line (price wise) brand name - and they have been excellent! I have one node - DS18B20 temperature node in the attic for 6 months - exposed to 0 deg. F to 118 deg. F from winter to summer - and it shows 11% left. Key information is they are AAA, and the BATT_MIN is set to 1.65V! Hope this experience helps.

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                      @m26872 what does BOD stand for?

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                      • 5546dug5 5546dug

                        @m26872 what does BOD stand for?

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                        @5546dug

                        Brown out detection
                        http://www.scienceprog.com/microcontroller-brown-out-detection/

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