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Extending range of regular nRF24L01+

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  • gohanG gohan

    Yes, I'm using both adapters with voltage regulator and caps or 3v from the mega 2560 plus 100uf cap. I suspect the modules because they were very cheap. I'm waiting for the PA to arrive and meanwhile I was just trying to play around with the ones I got.

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    @gohan yes then it sounds like bad modules, that extra dollar for a lot of 10 modules often make a lot of difference in quality ;)

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      The problem is being lucky enough to get working ones. Let's see with dipole if something changes.

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        @gohan said in Extending range of regular nRF24L01+:

        Hi guys, I tried the single wire mod but without any noticeable improvement: with a single wall in between I can't go more than 5 mt or I start getting NACK messages. I'll have to try the dipole or my radio modules are crap (as I always suspected)

        Tooooooo short! real range of printed antena modules are around 20 to 30m with one wall at midle.
        You should have something doing noise,like router on same freq our other 2.4 ghz device on same frequency.
        on my case i live ouside city so my router its the only one on 2.4ghz but never cause me problems .
        Its really bad luck all your modules come with problems

        some of my modules have and laptop antena instead of pcb antena,but only increase range in +/- 5m though walls
        there's one increment that i read here from other member did on amplified version; cover the module with aluminium foil ,and leave antenna outside aluminium,i think that avoid signal propagation before antena do this job.

        (0_1495467558388_upload-7c0bb1c4-6378-4d96-af9e-37dc56da6947

        i'm a arduino fan .Even sometimes don't undestanding how to use it :P

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          I put them on channel 10, that should be away from wifi networks. I leave in the countryside so I don't think I have any other interference. I suspect they are just crappy modules. Hope for the shielded PA to arrive soon (of course all the interesting parts I have ordered are arriving much later than all the other junk :D )

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            @gohan said in Extending range of regular nRF24L01+:

            Hi guys, I tried the single wire mod but without any noticeable improvement: with a single wall in between I can't go more than 5 mt or I start getting NACK messages. I'll have to try the dipole or my radio modules are crap (as I always suspected)

            Tooooooo short! real range of printed antena modules are around 20 to 30m with one wall at midle.
            You should have something doing noise,like router on same freq our other 2.4 ghz device on same frequency.
            on my case i live ouside city so my router its the only one on 2.4ghz but never cause me problems .
            Its really bad luck all your modules come with problems

            some of my modules have and laptop antena instead of pcb antena,but only increase range in +/- 5m though walls
            there's one increment that i read here from other member did on amplified version; cover the module with aluminium foil ,and leave antenna outside aluminium,i think that avoid signal propagation before antena do this job.

            (0_1495467558388_upload-7c0bb1c4-6378-4d96-af9e-37dc56da6947

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            @Tmaster said in Extending range of regular nRF24L01+:

            cover the module with aluminium foil ,and leave antenna outside aluminium

            This is very good advice if using the PA version. One of my PA radios was so bad it was actually took down my z-wave network network (yes, z-wave is 900MHz). After wrapping with aluminium foil (and grounding that) it works beautifully.

            My "How To" home automation video channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_Evyh5PQALx4m4CQuxqkA

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              I am not using the PA version, just a common clone with trace antenna. After rating them 1 star on Amazon, the seller offered a refund in exchange for a change in review.... Sorry but I am only going to add the seller has been kind to offer a refund, but if the modules are junk I can't change my opinion :D

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                so if you have nothing to lose ,cut the antena trace near last smd component and solder an external antena and try again. should increase signal.

                i'm a arduino fan .Even sometimes don't undestanding how to use it :P

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                  I tried with dipole mod but didn't gain anything.

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                    I tried with dipole mod but didn't gain anything.

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                    @gohan are you aware that you need to align the antennas if you use a dipole?

                    I am not sure how to align a pcb antenna with a dipole, but two dipoles need to be aligned so they are in parallel. Otherwise the received signal can have lower strength than when using the pcb antenna.

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                      I know but I am not going to waste more time on them

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