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  3. [SOLVED] 2 X nrf24l01+pa+lna with RF24_PA_MAX

[SOLVED] 2 X nrf24l01+pa+lna with RF24_PA_MAX

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  • OitzuO Offline
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    Oitzu
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    #20

    @wico2002: you should also cover the base of the antenna with plastic foil.
    As far as i know the base is grounded. I don't really know if this makes any difference but i let my tinfoil ungrounded. I'm no expert in RF mechanics. :D

    No not tried this yet.. but this should have the same effect as the tinfoil wrapping.
    As long as you let stick the antenna out of the housing.... ;)

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      @Oitzu A BIG THANK YOU, it work now with the foil trick. I'll will maybe close other forum topics including your topic's url. thank you again

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        Using @Oitzu 's trick, I wrapped my iBoard Gateway in aluminum tape. I can't tell if there is any benefit in transmission range or reduced interference but at least it looks nice and shiny!

        IMG_20151007_213755.jpg

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        Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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          #23

          @Dwalt will this box also sends packets to the path of valallah?
          Screenshot 2015-10-08 09.27.25.png

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          • OitzuO Oitzu

            @Dwalt will this box also sends packets to the path of valallah?
            Screenshot 2015-10-08 09.27.25.png

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            Dwalt
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            #24

            @Oitzu Yes, now my network will ride eternal!

            Actually, my brother saw the modification and asked if I was trying to prevent the NSA from intercepting my humidity readings. Hmmm, maybe a secondary benefit...

            rob-tinfoil-hat-compressed.jpg

            Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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              doblanch
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              #25

              Finally does the foil should be grounded or not ??
              thanks

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                #26

                Grounding the foil will not affect the shininess, but it could improve the shielding.

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                • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                  Grounding the foil will not affect the shininess, but it could improve the shielding.

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                  doblanch
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                  #27

                  @mfalkvidd thanks for your reply.
                  If we want to ground it, can we use the gold base ? I guess that this part is grounded....

                  I met some issues with PA LNA, do you think that it can freeze after a while, and powering the NRF24+PA+LNA directly on the nano ? It seems that after one month of use, I loss many packets..

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                    @doblanch well the theory says it should be grounded so the signals induced into the foil can "flow" to ground instead to build up a current in the foil. (But make sure to just connect ground to one side of the foil, connecting on multiple points can produce a ground loop)
                    I havn't tested if the "gold" base is grounded, maybe just check with an multimeter?
                    Also i have fine results with grounded and ungrounded shield.

                    The PA/LNA shouldn't be powered directly from the nano. The voltage regulator on the nano will probably not deliver enough current to stable power the PA/LNA modul on the high power settings.

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                    • OitzuO Oitzu

                      @doblanch well the theory says it should be grounded so the signals induced into the foil can "flow" to ground instead to build up a current in the foil. (But make sure to just connect ground to one side of the foil, connecting on multiple points can produce a ground loop)
                      I havn't tested if the "gold" base is grounded, maybe just check with an multimeter?
                      Also i have fine results with grounded and ungrounded shield.

                      The PA/LNA shouldn't be powered directly from the nano. The voltage regulator on the nano will probably not deliver enough current to stable power the PA/LNA modul on the high power settings.

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                      @Oitzu Thanks. I will test it ungrounded first.
                      For the nano thanks also for your reply, it's great to have confirmation that nano can not really support NRF+PA+LNA with RF24_PA_MAX parameter, which is my case.
                      I hope , that powering direclty from a USB will avoid any more issue, that I'm hitting...
                      thanks again

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                        @doblanch said:

                        I hope , that powering direclty from a USB will avoid any more issue, that I'm hitting...

                        Keep in mind that USB is 5V and the nrf24l01+ takes 3.3V on VCC.

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                        • OitzuO Oitzu

                          @doblanch said:

                          I hope , that powering direclty from a USB will avoid any more issue, that I'm hitting...

                          Keep in mind that USB is 5V and the nrf24l01+ takes 3.3V on VCC.

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                          #31

                          @Oitzu Yes of course, I'm using a Buck power down socket ( the one recommended on mysensor.org)
                          thanks

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