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[SOLVED] 2 X nrf24l01+pa+lna with RF24_PA_MAX

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    wico2002
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    @Oitzu A BIG THANK YOU, it work now with the foil trick. I'll will maybe close other forum topics including your topic's url. thank you again

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      Using @Oitzu 's trick, I wrapped my iBoard Gateway in aluminum tape. I can't tell if there is any benefit in transmission range or reduced interference but at least it looks nice and shiny!

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      Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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        Oitzu
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        @Dwalt will this box also sends packets to the path of valallah?
        Screenshot 2015-10-08 09.27.25.png

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          @Dwalt will this box also sends packets to the path of valallah?
          Screenshot 2015-10-08 09.27.25.png

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          @Oitzu Yes, now my network will ride eternal!

          Actually, my brother saw the modification and asked if I was trying to prevent the NSA from intercepting my humidity readings. Hmmm, maybe a secondary benefit...

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          Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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            doblanch
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            Finally does the foil should be grounded or not ??
            thanks

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              mfalkvidd
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              Grounding the foil will not affect the shininess, but it could improve the shielding.

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                Grounding the foil will not affect the shininess, but it could improve the shielding.

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                doblanch
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                @mfalkvidd thanks for your reply.
                If we want to ground it, can we use the gold base ? I guess that this part is grounded....

                I met some issues with PA LNA, do you think that it can freeze after a while, and powering the NRF24+PA+LNA directly on the nano ? It seems that after one month of use, I loss many packets..

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                  Oitzu
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                  @doblanch well the theory says it should be grounded so the signals induced into the foil can "flow" to ground instead to build up a current in the foil. (But make sure to just connect ground to one side of the foil, connecting on multiple points can produce a ground loop)
                  I havn't tested if the "gold" base is grounded, maybe just check with an multimeter?
                  Also i have fine results with grounded and ungrounded shield.

                  The PA/LNA shouldn't be powered directly from the nano. The voltage regulator on the nano will probably not deliver enough current to stable power the PA/LNA modul on the high power settings.

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                    @doblanch well the theory says it should be grounded so the signals induced into the foil can "flow" to ground instead to build up a current in the foil. (But make sure to just connect ground to one side of the foil, connecting on multiple points can produce a ground loop)
                    I havn't tested if the "gold" base is grounded, maybe just check with an multimeter?
                    Also i have fine results with grounded and ungrounded shield.

                    The PA/LNA shouldn't be powered directly from the nano. The voltage regulator on the nano will probably not deliver enough current to stable power the PA/LNA modul on the high power settings.

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                    doblanch
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                    @Oitzu Thanks. I will test it ungrounded first.
                    For the nano thanks also for your reply, it's great to have confirmation that nano can not really support NRF+PA+LNA with RF24_PA_MAX parameter, which is my case.
                    I hope , that powering direclty from a USB will avoid any more issue, that I'm hitting...
                    thanks again

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                      Oitzu
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                      @doblanch said:

                      I hope , that powering direclty from a USB will avoid any more issue, that I'm hitting...

                      Keep in mind that USB is 5V and the nrf24l01+ takes 3.3V on VCC.

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                        @doblanch said:

                        I hope , that powering direclty from a USB will avoid any more issue, that I'm hitting...

                        Keep in mind that USB is 5V and the nrf24l01+ takes 3.3V on VCC.

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                        doblanch
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                        @Oitzu Yes of course, I'm using a Buck power down socket ( the one recommended on mysensor.org)
                        thanks

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