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What's the best PIR sensor?

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  • pyrodetectorP pyrodetector

    I have published the brochure in which I tested the eleven pyroelectric detectors from different manufacturers, pyroelectric materials, and electrical connections - both parallel and serial. I tested them under the same conditions. I hope this helps. Feel free to ask the questions:)

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    NeverDie
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    @pyrodetector said in What's the best PIR sensor?:

    I have published the brochure in which I tested the eleven pyroelectric detectors from different manufacturers, pyroelectric materials, and electrical connections - both parallel and serial. I tested them under the same conditions. I hope this helps. Feel free to ask the questions:)

    For the TL;DR, which one did you like the best?

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    • NeverDieN NeverDie

      @pyrodetector said in What's the best PIR sensor?:

      I have published the brochure in which I tested the eleven pyroelectric detectors from different manufacturers, pyroelectric materials, and electrical connections - both parallel and serial. I tested them under the same conditions. I hope this helps. Feel free to ask the questions:)

      For the TL;DR, which one did you like the best?

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      @NeverDie said in What's the best PIR sensor?:

      @pyrodetector said in What's the best PIR sensor?:

      I have published the brochure in which I tested the eleven pyroelectric detectors from different manufacturers, pyroelectric materials, and electrical connections - both parallel and serial. I tested them under the same conditions. I hope this helps. Feel free to ask the questions:)

      For the TL;DR, which one did you like the best?

      Dear NeverDie!
      What is "TL;DR", please?
      Every sensor is good for its application. Among a set of sensors the best two sensors or more are those having similar characteristics.

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      • pyrodetectorP pyrodetector

        @NeverDie said in What's the best PIR sensor?:

        @pyrodetector said in What's the best PIR sensor?:

        I have published the brochure in which I tested the eleven pyroelectric detectors from different manufacturers, pyroelectric materials, and electrical connections - both parallel and serial. I tested them under the same conditions. I hope this helps. Feel free to ask the questions:)

        For the TL;DR, which one did you like the best?

        Dear NeverDie!
        What is "TL;DR", please?
        Every sensor is good for its application. Among a set of sensors the best two sensors or more are those having similar characteristics.

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        @pyrodetector "TL;DR" = "too long; didn't read." Nothing personal. Just a common internet acronym. It means, in effect, "What's the bottom line?"

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          @NeverDie - Just in case you haven't seen them there are a number of TI Reference Designs and Application Notes that you may find useful.

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          • NeverDieN NeverDie

            @pyrodetector "TL;DR" = "too long; didn't read." Nothing personal. Just a common internet acronym. It means, in effect, "What's the bottom line?"

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            @NeverDie said in What's the best PIR sensor?:

            @pyrodetector "TL;DR" = "too long; didn't read." Nothing personal. Just a common internet acronym. It means, in effect, "What's the bottom line?"

            Dear @NeverDie Thanks a lot! I am not an experienced user on the internet forums and you help me be getting better.
            In order to say which sensor is the best, one has to determine the criteria. I research the dynamic behavior of pyroelectric detectors. One common rule is true for all pyroelectric detectors: the higher the AC responsivity, the higher the noise, the higher the current consumption, the shorter the transient response. And vice versa. If you want to gain more knowledge on pyroelectric detectors, you can build an experimental setup/bench similar to mine for testing your pyroelectric detectors. I wish anyone had such a bench and we could share the results with one another. Probably, closer to spring, I will test the sensor you mentioned above and publish its transient response here.

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              #39

              At the time I thought the am612 was in a good sweet spot (low price, low power, and "good enough" sensitivity), but technology is constantly improving, and so I'm always interested if anyone knows of something better.

              Also, these days wireless cameras are so cheap that I think the trend is toward combining them with PIR's, so that the cause of the trigger is always documented (well, to the degree it can be).

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              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                At the time I thought the am612 was in a good sweet spot (low price, low power, and "good enough" sensitivity), but technology is constantly improving, and so I'm always interested if anyone knows of something better.

                Also, these days wireless cameras are so cheap that I think the trend is toward combining them with PIR's, so that the cause of the trigger is always documented (well, to the degree it can be).

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                @NeverDie AM612 has been improved with BS612: down to 2.2V instead of 2.7V, and max 11uA working current compared to 14.
                There's also a HM612 which is supposed to be "long range" and has a higher sensibility, other specs seem to be the same. I've not tested them, not using any pir sensors here it's too hot to be usable :)

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                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                  At the time I thought the am612 was in a good sweet spot (low price, low power, and "good enough" sensitivity), but technology is constantly improving, and so I'm always interested if anyone knows of something better.

                  Also, these days wireless cameras are so cheap that I think the trend is toward combining them with PIR's, so that the cause of the trigger is always documented (well, to the degree it can be).

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                  @NeverDie
                  Excelitas PYD1588/1598 are the best I've used, running now for years without a single false alert.
                  Fully integrated, 1.8V and only 3uA

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                    @NeverDie
                    Excelitas PYD1588/1598 are the best I've used, running now for years without a single false alert.
                    Fully integrated, 1.8V and only 3uA

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                    @lood29
                    I recently got a PYD1598 sensor up an running. I made a lot of guesses at the settings and would like to hear what you are using. I wound up with:
                    Pulse Detection Mode 0 = signal has to exceed the threshold and change of sign
                    High Pass Filter Freq. 1 = 0.2 Hz
                    Filter Source 0 = PIR (BPF)
                    Window Time 0 = 2 seconds
                    Pulse Counter 0 = 1 pulse
                    Blind Time 2 seconds
                    Threshold = 128

                    I played around with the threshold a little, but didn't get a very good sense of the tradeoff of sensitivity vs false alarms (working in a relatively small room). The 128 seems to work, but wondering if there are better settings.

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                      @NeverDie
                      Excelitas PYD1588/1598 are the best I've used, running now for years without a single false alert.
                      Fully integrated, 1.8V and only 3uA

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                      @lood29 said in What's the best PIR sensor?:

                      Excelitas PYD1588/1598

                      What kind of range?

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                      • nagelcN nagelc

                        @lood29
                        I recently got a PYD1598 sensor up an running. I made a lot of guesses at the settings and would like to hear what you are using. I wound up with:
                        Pulse Detection Mode 0 = signal has to exceed the threshold and change of sign
                        High Pass Filter Freq. 1 = 0.2 Hz
                        Filter Source 0 = PIR (BPF)
                        Window Time 0 = 2 seconds
                        Pulse Counter 0 = 1 pulse
                        Blind Time 2 seconds
                        Threshold = 128

                        I played around with the threshold a little, but didn't get a very good sense of the tradeoff of sensitivity vs false alarms (working in a relatively small room). The 128 seems to work, but wondering if there are better settings.

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                        @nagelc
                        I kept all setting to default except the maintain window =8s
                        So the SERIN reg is: 0x0031ED10

                        @NeverDie
                        With the fresnel and the wide angle 1598 it's ~ 7m

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                        • L lood29

                          @nagelc
                          I kept all setting to default except the maintain window =8s
                          So the SERIN reg is: 0x0031ED10

                          @NeverDie
                          With the fresnel and the wide angle 1598 it's ~ 7m

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                          @lood29 Interesting. Looks like I can cut the threshold way down. I'll give that a try.

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